I have read a couple of comments about Octane and people reckon they are 50% good and 50% bad. I wanted to get one, but after hearing so many people stating that it's bad, I am thinking of getting a Rally.
So, question, for a newbie 11 meters new Octane or second hand 10 meters Rally?????
Thanks,
Mike
Rally, you are a beginner and the rally relaunches easier, something youll get LOTS of practice at..
I have both. And yes the rally has better re launch than the octane but the Octane is still a good kite. There was a bad batch early in there release a couplel of seasons ago that gave them a bad wrap but there are still guys who like to ride them. They are not as predictable or stable as the Rallys, and depending on your weight and the wind range you will be using it inwill be whether a 10m will be big enough. I am 80kg and went from a 12m to a 14m Rally last season because of our **** season and used the 11m Octane for wind 20+ knts. If you can get a 12m Rally to start you will be doing ok
Many thanks guys.
A lot of good info here. I would really love to go for the Rally, but for 1100 AUD, I rather get a brand new Octane 11 meters, than a second hand Rally. I paid 550 for a Rev II (second hand) and I got to use it 3 times, after that popped with no reason and it's costing me 250 to fix it. Therefore, I rather get a new kite that I can trust the material will last (provide I am not doing anything stupid :)
The guys from the shop said I can have a go before I'll buy the Octane, if I can see it's alright, I'll get it.
Thanks again and hopefully the spring and summer will bring awesome winds,
MD
Sounds like your on the money. I instructed on both kites, and with the bigger sizes 10-12 Rally 11-13 Octane theres really not much difference in flying characteristics. At least you can get a board as well for the same price as just the rally
The 11m Octane is a great kite, I wont be replacing that one.
The 7m Octane had a few overflying issues if standing around the beach, and the 9m, not the greatest down the line wave kite, but has plenty of grunt.
Rally is probably the smoothest flying kite ever, but doesn't quite have the power of the Octane
Yep the 11 and 13 were awesome, smooth, didnt backstall and turned really well for a big kite. Octanes in the smaller sizes were a little twitchy, the Rallys in the bigger sizes were boring.
12 and 14m turn pretty much the same, 8m turns like a foxy terrier on speed and waiting for a 10m. Wouldnt say the bigger sizes are boring though.
most of these replies are from die hard slingey flyers, the rev was a awesome kite, since then ss have been playing catch up, my advice is to try some other brand kites, just my opinion
I don't know why, but after starting kitesurfing on a particular brand, you feel reluctant about buying a different one. At least, that's how I feel as a beginner.
Thanks anyway,
Cheers
Seriously, as a beginner you'll be fine with any of the kites mentioned so far. After a season or two of solid kiting you'll be able to appreciate subtler performance differences but for now, just get out there and do it!
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Hey i dont mind using my sons C4's if if i need to but like my rally's For my riding. They are good and so are Octanes. There's nothing wrong with liking a particular brand better than another and as djdojo said he's not going to tell a great deal of difference without a little more experience.
I bought 2 kites a couple of yrs ago and traded within 4 months. Great when in the air but mine were prone to stalling and would fall out of the sky without warning.
Demo them b4 buying
I've tried the Octane today and didn't like it. And, yes, it did fall out of the sky for about two times in 10 minutes. I couldn't even bother. And the center lines were missing the pig tails....doesn't feel good, that's all.
You get what you pay for it seems (only took me 12 yrs to work that out), but as a beginner go second hand but from a reputable retailer who has a vested interest in looking after you if the kite does have probs (as you will then buy a new one later on).
mate you will smash and crash ya first kite (and then some when you start pushing your own envelope), so I wouldn't go new, but then again I wouldn't be buying privately either until you know a bit more about kites in general.
Then again if you have the cash to burn, new or near is always best as you know the kite is okay.
Agreed on the kahoona kite if ya wanna save some da'money, flew them and cannot fault there stability - you need to seriously go down the line, losing ones edge completely and then it 'may' fall out the sky.
Once you have some miles under ya belt, there are better kites on the market it seems (or more correctly kites that suite the style you naturally grow into), but some swear by them and they love the x3, and I did until I found core (immaculate), then the rebel (suites my style).
@Dave. I had no idea I can actually mix the bar of a brand with the kite of a different one (even is set up). They said in a lessons video, it has to be originally designed by the manufacturer. Anyway, we learn something everyday:)
@Eppo. I did go second hand the first time and now I want to try something a bit better. (as in near new 2011).
Thanks guys,
Mike
Oh sorry didn't follow thread properly it seems. If that is the case identify your dominant style and intention. Be honest how do you ride 80 percent and above. Then demo all kites that have been built for that market ( the kites are eve loved enough now to do that). Also why one shouldn't follow a negative thread on a kite if there is enough evidence there is something in it, even if not as bad as they make out. Most people are honest but there are a few knobs roaming that seem to know farq all about what they are talking about. Demo take ya time don't waste money like I have!!!
I had issues with my 9 Octane falling out of the sky and overflying. It was an issue with pigtail extensions. Once removed it now just sits there sweet as.
Havind said that I have rallys in 12 and 8 and prefer them. Super easy to relaunch and to self land. Also - no pulleys which could save you a lot of headaches if crashing whilst learning.
Id spend the $ and get a nee Rally. You won outgrow it and it will be easier when learning.
Yeah....that's it.
.Better to have more struts there and provide more uplift with no centre strut. Both Octanes and Rallys have them. Less grunt and slower turning in the bigger sizes. As I said Sorry to pimp Best. Just try one dude.
love the red thumbs
as dave said, kiteloop the rally with speed and i think he was being polite, its a jellyfish, imo, therefore, as a newbie, you will out grow the rally.
. Other big 11-14m good flying kites can be recommended.... Not pimped.
.Hes got a bar, 1100 bucks and the kahoona is my best pick..?
. Other big 11-14m good flying kites can be recommended.... Not pimped..Hes got a bar, 1100 bucks and the kahoona is my best pick..?
. Other big 11-14m good flying kites can be recommended.... Not pimped..Hes got a bar, 1100 bucks and the kahoona is my best pick..?
