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Created by eppo > 9 months ago, 25 Aug 2012
eppo
WA, 9686 posts
25 Aug 2012 9:34PM
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Rider: Weight,Level (advanced, only by years on the water
Style: Freeriding, Surf
Weather: at VX 10m limit, 25 to 30? knots
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 10/10 for intended purpose
weight 77kg

Okay folks been out a number of times on my new Shinn Monk, 132/41. I have a 4m gap between my 10m VX and 6m VX, hence I needed a board that I could take the 10m to its limit, so I'm not sitting there wondering what kite to take out between 23 and 28 knots. And you guys know in winter you need that margin for gusts.

So I needed a board that had some flex, for the west coast chop but could hold a tight rail and take a serious load and not break ( my CB wave can't do that, planes to easily), and yet enough pop to seriously go big which the VX in built race characteristic are known for.

And as we all know there is a cost benefit between flex (and chop handling) and rigidity (release and vertical pop as well the ability to load).

So after you guys answered my post looking for the right board, I had narrowed down the the north x ride and the shinn monk. The north board ( which I as able to borrow a friends) would have been an excellent choice given I wanted a board more on the freeride spectrum, but my CB wave I consider to be the ultimate for that, considering the waves I am in all the time.

So following my true and trusted technique of net research, posting here then contacting individuals about their board choice, it was the monk...

And I wasnt disappointed. Firstly the pads and straps are amazingly comfortable, the memory foam by now has really set in. You feel very connected and the ride is super smooth. Read from many sources the comfortable ride that allows you more than usual water time without fatigue. This is a function of the straps, pads as well as the biaxial flex(snowboard influence) but get to that later. football in my teens and twenties plus 13 years of kiting have taken their toll on my ankles so this was a god send. So the ride is very smooth, and their is no spray at all. I can't emphasizes this more, not a little bit of spray, but none, nilch, zero, nada...was damn weird to start with.

So it's blowin 22 to 30, those damn gusty westerlies, black clouds a building on the horizon, I'm on my 10m VX and thought farq it let's see what this baby can do. Got into some flattish water and loaded that bitch up. Those who know the VX it is a bloody race car, it moves fast and demands you ride it fast or you would wonder what the hell you have bought. It asks a lot of the rider and gives a lot If you tap into its function, but would seem a strange kite for someone not up to the task. It's all or nothing. So I cranked that canopy into the rapidly increasing gusts, dropped it through the window as fast as I could crank it ( the damn thing flies so fast forward it generates immense speed), the pulled with every ounce of strength I had, rushed forward so damn fast it made my eyes water, then dug the heels as far in as I could go, straighten the legs and jammed that farqin rail as deep as it would go, expecting any minute to break contact and send me to hell. Well stuff me, the deeper I dug, the firmer it held. I could feel the flex not flopping about at the ends, but through the whole board from one end to another. It twisted and bucked through the whole axis, which creates incredible control. I was kind of pissed off I couldn't break the rail actually, went even harder the second time, but nah it wouldn't budge.

So here you have a board that loads as much power as you want and yet has enough biaxial flex to keep it all smooth and in control. Mate the wake and spray coming off the board could have propelled one of those wake boarder waarnkers(spelling to keep words impact with none of those stupid asterixes).

So time to test its pop. Flex is great for smoothness but sh1t if ya can't pop vertical and transfer all that edging ability into height whats the point Now I'm still a relative virgin on the VX and to be very honest with you folks, it still scares me a little. It flies so bloody fast I keep redirecting it to early. The kite is not a plug and play style kite, even in the air you have to fly it correctly or you will bring it to fast back though window and it will leave you coming down with no canopy above you. To compound this it asks you to fling it from the horizontal at 9 quickly over ya shoulder past 12 all the way to 3, hence your flight control once in the air is paramount. It also has some incredible loop potential built into it and almost asks you to pull this trigger as well, which I've only done in lighter winds so far...yeh I'm chicken Sh1t.

So with that concise description, lol, I cranked and dug in the rail and aimed for a good head high wave, thinking I'd loose my edge as I went up the face. Well I did a little, but with a slight dig of the heel at the last minute, slung it from 9 through the 3 ...and for the first time in a long time, scared the living crap out of myself. Vertical lift that hurt my ribs, incredible height and float, lots of float, made sure this to crank it back at last minute and landed as soft as butter.

One last dimension to mention was its ability in the waves. Yeh it's a TT, but it does have a lot of grip, although this can easily be released when needed. Good balance there. One aspect of the board that shocked me in the waves was one, it's ability to hold a line when you needed, two it performed really well on its toes. Again an edging characteristic, it rides on the toes really well to the point I was starting to trim the wave like on my CB wave. Not as good, but bloody close. You can really dig the toe edge I spill the kites power ( again helped by the race characteristic of the VX which allows you to fly it so far forward) a good combination, this kite and board.

So in summary, ha ha ha, it serves the purpose I needed it for perfectly. Suites the kites characteristics as well. Highly recommend this board and it wouldn't make a bad all round board for those who only use the one. But for those who need some flex in the chop but the ability to hold a big edge and take their kite to its upper limit for some insane boosting, this is something worth considering. Also surprisingly good in the surf.

Thanks to puppet for for the help.

Eppo

Ps for the record I sourced this board for 100 dollars cheaper oversees but supported a local retailer. This by no means means I'm a nice guy, ask my mother I'm not. But when I can, i buy local.

dorothyinste
QLD, 481 posts
26 Aug 2012 8:29AM
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Nice review Mr Eppen.

NickT
WA, 1094 posts
26 Aug 2012 10:49AM
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Eppo, I think your review is a bit vague.
Do you reckon next time you could provide a bit more detail

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
26 Aug 2012 11:45AM
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NickT said...

Eppo, I think your review is a bit vague.
Do you reckon next time you could provide a bit more detail




Lol, yeh I kind do hinted this throughout. Needed to paint a picture between kite and board, I think this is missed with a lot of board reviews as each kite dictates a different aspect to the boards use. Also tried to be a little entertaining. Hope it worked. Typed it up as I watched the eagles pulverize collingwood, so much sweeter being collingwood isn't it.

Home final against the dockers is on the cards, man will I cop it if they shockers get up and win.

Go the eagles!

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
26 Aug 2012 12:17PM
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early days eppo, this board keeps getting better the more you hone in, after a few months grab any tt, take them for a ride they all come up short, its got me how he can make a board with so much flex, and have the strength it has , your spot on with how the kite plays a part in the boards performance , im on 2012 edges , this board loves to be ridden hard and fast, as you mentioned its near impossible to lose its edge, best example of this is when you boost high in big winds, and land flat out, every other board ive had would chatter its edge over the water until you got control of your speed, which can be pretty hard on a fully powered edge, chuffed your loving the board we just need them wa sea breezes to start cranking

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
26 Aug 2012 3:40PM
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Or some more cranking gusty westerlies. Yeh that is what surprised me was the control you had at speed, enough flex to remain smooth, yet it can still bite. It seems a unique combination of rigidity and flex. Was a real paradigm shift for me anyhow. And the best thing is you have full control of the bite ( put the 35 mm fins in) so can still slide it out onto a wave face. The heelside carve is just unbelievable. Almost ridiculous.

Thanks for your advice Cauncy. Yeh with a kite with race built into its DNA that wants to be ridden fast it is indeed a good combination.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
26 Aug 2012 4:28PM
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GO EAGLES!!

He he - ya lost me after:

Rider: Weight,Level (advanced, only by years on the water
Style: Freeriding, Surf
Weather: at VX 10m limit, 25 to 30? knots
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 10/10 for intended purpose
weight 77kg




I love a good review Eppo but too much of a good thing eh?

More dot points less teasing out the nuances of micro examination next time

So what I took from that review:
- Tops board
- Suits heavy blokes who lie about their weight and type a LOT
- Rosa the tuffest mid sized player going around
- Collingwood are sh!te outside Melbs

ste
WA, 524 posts
26 Aug 2012 4:58PM
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Anyone had a go on the new shinn Dundee??
Interested to give this board a demo.
I think it's the freeride, wave, everything
Board in the range.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
26 Aug 2012 6:17PM
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ste said...

Anyone had a go on the new shinn Dundee??
Interested to give this board a demo.
I think it's the freeride, wave, everything
Board in the range.



ive only heard great things about the dundee , id love to get a demo but no dealers up here, my mate in the uk has been riding it and raves about it, kiteworld mag did a review a few issues ago with glowing reports, im surprised we dont see more people riding maybe he needs to market them better

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
26 Aug 2012 7:58PM
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There is a detailed thread answered my mainly mike birt who I rate highly, on kiteforum right now. He explains all the shinn boards in a very technical way.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
26 Aug 2012 8:00PM
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getfunky said...

GO EAGLES!!

He he - ya lost me after:

Rider: Weight,Level (advanced, only by years on the water
Style: Freeriding, Surf
Weather: at VX 10m limit, 25 to 30? knots
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 10/10 for intended purpose
weight 77kg





I

I love a good review Eppo but too much of a good thing eh?

More dot points less teasing out the nuances of micro examination next time

So what I took from that review:
- Tops board
- Suits heavy blokes who lie about their weight and type a LOT
- Rosa the tuffest mid sized player going around
- Collingwood are sh!te outside Melbs







Yep agree with everything you said.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
26 Aug 2012 9:03PM
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eppo said...

There is a detailed thread answered my mainly mike birt who I rate highly, on kiteforum right now. He explains all the shinn boards in a very technical way.





Here you go.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2375782

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
27 Aug 2012 2:41PM
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Thanks for that Eppo.
I've been giving customers all that gumf ever since I found the Shinns. They think I'm just ur regular salesman blabbing but I'm not "regular' and I'm not "exaggerating".
Apart from better all round the load & pop has to be tried to be appreciated.
I've stopped gushing to simply encourage a demo.
No board will ever be for everyone but the Shinns go awfully close!

Nb should have the New Dundee available for demo any day.

One thing I will add is that it's a bit of a pity that the Monk has proven such a stand-out. It's not - it's just that that's the one most people first hear about and try and they never bother trying anything else. I freaking LUV my Luigi and chose the super comfort of the Gintronic for long distance crossing to PNG.

And anyone looking for a surfboard I have a 5'10" Duke on demo - but only for those experienced on surfboards (sorry to those switching but demos don't mean much till you can pick the differences)

zzzzz
WA, 57 posts
28 Aug 2012 1:38AM
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Whats a10m VX?

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
28 Aug 2012 10:01AM
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zzzzz said...

Whats a10m VX?


Airush VX??

Nuking
NSW, 83 posts
28 Aug 2012 2:23PM
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Such an exciting review I am picturing some intensely powered riding boosting to the clouds. I think this should have been a video review with a Joe Satriani backing track!

Flying High
NSW, 217 posts
28 Aug 2012 10:39PM
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puppetonastring said...

Thanks for that Eppo.
I've been giving customers all that gumf ever since I found the Shinns. They think I'm just ur regular salesman blabbing but I'm not "regular' and I'm not "exaggerating".
Apart from better all round the load & pop has to be tried to be appreciated.
I've stopped gushing to simply encourage a demo.
No board will ever be for everyone but the Shinns go awfully close!

Nb should have the New Dundee available for demo any day.

One thing I will add is that it's a bit of a pity that the Monk has proven such a stand-out. It's not - it's just that that's the one most people first hear about and try and they never bother trying anything else. I freaking LUV my Luigi and chose the super comfort of the Gintronic for long distance crossing to PNG.

And anyone looking for a surfboard I have a 5'10" Duke on demo - but only for those experienced on surfboards (sorry to those switching but demos don't mean much till you can pick the differences)


Hi Puppet, I believe the Dundee replaces the Luigi. I would be interested in hearing some reviews of the Dundee once you or someone has demo'd it.
I have read the other forum, Eppo suggested, just keen on more reviews on the Dundee as this is the newer model and may suit what I want in my next twin tip.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
28 Aug 2012 8:44PM
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Nuking said...

Such an exciting review I am picturing some intensely powered riding boosting to the clouds. I think this should have been a video review with a Joe Satriani backing track!




Ha ha, ****en cool man, flying in a blue dream or something was it, I can hear it now. Great imagery man. Yeh I did put it on a bit, but hey why not be entertained.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
28 Aug 2012 8:48PM
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Flying High said...

puppetonastring said...

Thanks for that Eppo.
I've been giving customers all that gumf ever since I found the Shinns. They think I'm just ur regular salesman blabbing but I'm not "regular' and I'm not "exaggerating".
Apart from better all round the load & pop has to be tried to be appreciated.
I've stopped gushing to simply encourage a demo.
No board will ever be for everyone but the Shinns go awfully close!

Nb should have the New Dundee available for demo any day.

One thing I will add is that it's a bit of a pity that the Monk has proven such a stand-out. It's not - it's just that that's the one most people first hear about and try and they never bother trying anything else. I freaking LUV my Luigi and chose the super comfort of the Gintronic for long distance crossing to PNG.

And anyone looking for a surfboard I have a 5'10" Duke on demo - but only for those experienced on surfboards (sorry to those switching but demos don't mean much till you can pick the differences)


Hi Puppet, I believe the Dundee replaces the Luigi. I would be interested in hearing some reviews of the Dundee once you or someone has demo'd it.
I have read the other forum, Eppo suggested, just keen on more reviews on the Dundee as this is the newer model and may suit what I want in my next twin tip.





Also get in touch with mike birt man, he's a bloody wealth of knowledge on these boards. He's an airush dealer but is good mates with mark shinn ( still rides with him, the younger crew are going who the fk is mark shinn, lol), but loves this board and the range. I like to talking to him, kind of like talking to Him as he is technically minded, knows his sh1t and backs his opinion with a technical basis then gives empirical justification. Not like half the cloggers you here....I really like this board, it's real good like.....

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
30 Aug 2012 8:29PM
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just got an email from shinn showing the new 2013 monk, just working through the fine art of hiding the mastercard payment from the missus

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
30 Aug 2012 9:54PM
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Any major changes?

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
31 Aug 2012 10:01AM
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I hope ur not buying online cauncy.
Same price (or better) and good old fashioned service right here on your doorstep.
Seriously guys we are here for the love of the sport. We need your support to be here for you.
If its a better deal online then I understand (I don't like it but I understand) but in this case and others we are here to represent these brands with on the spot service and back-up.
If the deals the same why wouldn't you.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
31 Aug 2012 10:23AM
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Puppett I did source the monk cheaper on-line, but still went through you for the reasons you said.


I was suggesting Mike Birt for advice, he knows more about these boards than anyone here, trust me. He had been part of the testing of these boards from day dot and is close friends with Shinn. Been riding longer than most of us too.

Get ya info where you can get it, but try and buy local. But for some the diff in price can be a burden, I'm lucky, on a very good income. Others don't have this privilege.

Eppo

NigeRobo
QLD, 27 posts
31 Aug 2012 9:06PM
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cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
31 Aug 2012 7:43PM
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puppetonastring said...

I hope ur not buying online cauncy.
Same price (or better) and good old fashioned service right here on your doorstep.
Seriously guys we are here for the love of the sport. We need your support to be here for you.
If its a better deal online then I understand (I don't like it but I understand) but in this case and others we are here to represent these brands with on the spot service and back-up.
If the deals the same why wouldn't you.


Na puppet, I've had the shinn boards long before you started to sell them, and as you can see by my posts I'm a big fan of the boards, I do get emails from Jan showing the new boards etc, as for buying online I do buy my kites from the UK, 1st he's a mate and secondary he was well over $2000 cheaper on my 4 ozones for 2012, as for buying local no retailer up here stocks ozones, or shinn boards so I ain't gonna get any customer service as I'm 4 hrs away, I do have a mate who owns a surf kite shop in gero, and try to support his business, in the last six months for me and my family iv bought 2 wetties, 2 surfboards,1 sup, 1 go pro, and variouse bits and pieces, if you'd like to push the shinn brand your welcome to send up a few demos that ill pass around , Hell ill do some demo days free of charge, nearly everyone who's rode the monk has loved it , then usually asked where to buy them from, IMHO the way to sell these boards is to get people to ride them through a demo or trial, the sales will follow, I wil be looking for the 2013 monk so let me know cheers mick

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
1 Sep 2012 9:03AM
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Fair enough, you a gero boy hey. Didn't know that. We will have to catch up man, me and my bro should be starting to head up that way after the exmouth trip.

Your reasoning is sound man, and to offer a to demo them, that above and beyond. Good work man.

sohk
QLD, 79 posts
1 Sep 2012 11:47AM
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you should try the player if you like the monk a bit more expensive but is truly a sick board !!!!! definatly demo one.

woodys
WA, 218 posts
1 Sep 2012 5:55PM
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2 x Players out in our superseded stock sale.
Save $300 off regular price.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
1 Sep 2012 6:32PM
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eppo said...

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Why does this bit cause such confusion?

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
1 Sep 2012 6:33PM
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woodys said...

2 x Players out in our superseded stock sale.
Save $300 off regular price.


I'll swap you a pack of chips, an opend bag of nails and a piece of concrete. I'd throw in a fax but its fkn waterlogged.

Ahh what the heck make that a pack of chips, an opened bag of nails, some concrete bits and a waterlogged fax.
Do we have a deal?

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
1 Sep 2012 7:24PM
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eppo said...

Fair enough, you a gero boy hey. Didn't know that. We will have to catch up man, me and my bro should be starting to head up that way after the exmouth trip.

Your reasoning is sound man, and to offer a to demo them, that above and beyond. Good work man.


Na i live in dongara, we've got some great spots up and around here,end of last season did a solo weekend trip kited, Sep and point Moore, then coro and south coros, then horrocks , Gregory, finished off with a arvo kite back in dongara, I was the only kiter apart from gero and corps, were pretty blessed up here, when your coming up give me a shout



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