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Flexifoil ION 2

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Created by Damo > 9 months ago, 29 Jan 2007
poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
25 Apr 2007 8:24PM
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i want to play this weekend Gruzitski......wind looks nuking

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
25 Apr 2007 9:28PM
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I've got softball up north at 2pm dam...first time there is real wind and I have an engagement.

The kite is still a virgin, ah whom better you to break it in than you?

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
25 Apr 2007 9:41PM
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Are you offering to lend me the beast for the weekend gruzitski???

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
25 Apr 2007 10:24PM
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Yea, if I'm needed on Sunday..you can have it in the afternoon.

carbine
WA, 1444 posts
25 Apr 2007 10:57PM
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did someone say break. I can do that.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
26 Apr 2007 4:05PM
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This thing needs a real floggen , oh please let there be wind.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
26 Apr 2007 6:06PM
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We might be better off in the morning gruzitski, arvo could be a bit psycho if there are lots of squalls, but the pre front wind could be the better choice.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
26 Apr 2007 6:35PM
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We've got a date

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
26 Apr 2007 8:04PM
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cool

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
27 Apr 2007 11:00PM
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Wot the
Hows about a 3some - time I had some time off work for some time on water - just for a change
Sat. am is lookin good ....
Where r we going
And what about YOUR new virgin PR - is that here yet or wot

dclark
WA, 21 posts
10 Jun 2007 11:14PM
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can you launch and land the ion2 off a sand bag or fixed object??

brooksy
WA, 498 posts
11 Jun 2007 7:19AM
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dclark,

you can relaunch just like a c, with sand over the wing tip, or it's pretty easy to self launch without sand on the wingtip at all, bow style. Just set up with the kite near the edge of the window and pull the wingtip around so it catches the wind. It will pretty much stand up by itself from there. Just practice with plenty of downwind room and on sand.

dclark
WA, 21 posts
12 Jun 2007 9:27AM
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matt from flexifoil said launching and landing using a fixed object can be done via the mini fifth line.

cheers

brooksy
WA, 498 posts
12 Jun 2007 3:37PM
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Not sure what you mean by launcing off a fixed object then?

But I use either of those techniques

dclark
WA, 21 posts
12 Jun 2007 3:47PM
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quote:
Originally posted by brooksy

Not sure what you mean by launcing off a fixed object then?

But I use either of those techniques





just like that. 5min vid if you got time to kill.

brooksy
WA, 498 posts
12 Jun 2007 7:32PM
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- ah yeh I know what you mean.

It can be done for sure. But I personally feel this method is very risky. If the kite gets some sort of gust or someone or something trips over your lines the kite takes off and no one is at the bar to activate any safety system. If you have no one around you, nothing that will get in your way then maybe it's not too bad, but if something goes wrong it can get ugly quick. That being said, it can be done.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
19 Jun 2007 7:19PM
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Had a nice hour in some ok wind today........finally I got to jump high again, I just love it.

This kite has a good low end and jumps like a mother

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
19 Jun 2007 9:09PM
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....and mothers jump.

So when can i have a go?

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
20 Jun 2007 10:47PM
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Relo, next time we play.



malcthom
WA, 48 posts
28 Jun 2007 11:29PM
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As regards self launching/landing I think the video link earlier is a bit daft... the flexifoil will sit beautifully at the edge of window just off the safety leash (not the chicken loop) which you can attach to any fixed object. Even in gusty conditions kite is stable this way and I have never seen it roll back across the window.

hughy
3 posts
7 Jul 2007 2:12PM
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is this for real????? i have a 12.5m coming my way...



12.5m kites purchased between 1st May 2007 and 30th June 2007 have had the front toggles sewn at 30 degrees off from the correct orientation which causes a reduction in strength when flown in 5 line mode. No problems have been found with kites flown in 4 line mode. Please note that no other sizes of Ion2 in the range are affected.

If you intend to use your kite in 5 line mode, or want to take up the offer of the free modification, please return your kite only (no bag/bar/lines/pump) to your closest Flexifoil Repair Centre where a reinforcement will be added to take the 5th line loads in one of two ways...

Two modification options:

1. Fast-fix - a fast modification for demanding riders. You will be able to see that the kite has been fixed, but you will receive your kite back within 10 working days.

2. Flexifoil-Quality-Fix - a more involved modification which will be un-noticeable to the untrained eye, but will take up to 30 working days.

Please remember to include your full name, address and phone number with the package and to include a receipt for your postage costs. Once your kite is ready to be returned to you the Flexifoil Repair Centre will call you to arrange for reimbursement of your postage costs.

Kites should be sent to:

Flexifoil QC & Repairs Centre
82d Fred Dannatt Road
Mildenhall
Suffolk
IP28 7RD
UK
Tel: +44 (0)1638 715968

MelloW Flexifoil Repair Centre
Albert I Laan 32a
Oostduinkerke
B-8670
Belgium
Tel: +32.(0)58.51.79.48

ProKiteSurf
623 N. Chaparral St.
Corpus Christi
TX 78401
USA
Tel: +1 (361) 883-1473


OFFICAL LINK - www.flexifoil.com/company/newsitem.php?article_id=102231

Karve
VIC, 197 posts
7 Jul 2007 6:56PM
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Yes unfortunately it is for real.

Fortunately there were only 6 kites in Australia that were affected but this manufacturing error. All the owners of these kites have been contacted already and actions have been taken to modify the kite and return to the owners ASAP.

All 12.5m ION2 kites for sale in Australia currently, do not have this problem as they were made after the manufacturing issue was resolved.

If you have any queries or would like to double check that your kite is not then please PM me with your kites serial number and I will look up its build date for you to confirm.

This issue has effected the US and Europe more as they had their kite sent from the first batch. As Australia was out of season we only managed to get a few from the first batch.

Cheers

Matt

PS I would just like to add that the issue occurred only when the kites were flown in 5th line mode on the low wind settings. Flying in 4 line mode is not an issue, nor is flying in 5th line mode on the hi wind settings.

andrewm
WA, 243 posts
9 Jul 2007 5:29PM
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i have flown my 12.5 twice now. I actually cant put into words how damn good the kite is. the jumps are just mind blowing.

Karve
VIC, 197 posts
27 Jul 2007 1:06PM
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I was reading CWAMIT's post in the rebal 08 thread and was suddenly compelled to post this.

cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
27 Jul 2007 2:09PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Karve

I was reading CWAMIT's post in the rebal 08 thread and was suddenly compelled to post this.



glad someone takes notice of my post . but can one be blamed for reading the rebel topic by default ... ;c)

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
27 Jul 2007 3:19PM
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Gruzitski has very kindly lent me his Ion2 10.5 for a period!!
Cant wait to get it out in a decent wind.
Will make a comparison when i do.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
30 Jul 2007 9:21AM
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I'm sooo excited!! Got a 12.5 and an 8.5 coming on Tuesday!!

If anyone on the sunny coast wants a try PM me.

andrewm
WA, 243 posts
31 Jul 2007 4:32AM
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i have had another 4 or 5 good powered days on my 12.5 now. my only issues so far are.

only issue im having with it at the moment is relaunch. its much more difficult than my old waroo.

depower also is no where near the instant dump of power feeling i got from the waroo.

still these are minor issues as the float, height and stability when unhooked are much better than my old kite.

Karve
VIC, 197 posts
31 Jul 2007 8:37AM
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With regards to depower, the max depower is only available on the hi wind settings.If things get hairy then pop the release as the kite is stable (and very depowered) when released to the front lines. The release is simple enough to rebuild with one hand

The relaunch is not the simplest but with a few tricks it is easy and fairly quick. The only time that is not so straightforward is when the kite is nose down straight downwind. To relaunch grab the top of the depower strap by the swivel and pull and release (depending on wind strength may have to move towards the kite to do this) to let the kite move onto its back then sheet in and point the bar at the kite and it will start to move to the side of the window, sheet out a bit to launch.

andrewm
WA, 243 posts
10 Aug 2007 9:41PM
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just for anyone thats interested...i flew my 12.5 in 5th line mode yesterday. I have never flown a C kite or 5th line kite before either. the wind at the start was 9kts and got up to about 18-20kts

took a fair while to change. I could have pumped up another kite and been on the water quicker.

low end is better than in 4 line mode. it was 9-13kts when i first got out and i was going upwind on a 130cm 555 board.

top end was a lot lower, probably 5kts less than in 4 line mode.

jumps and transitions were no where near as high compared to 4 line mode. this can be improved with a bit of practice im sure.

relaunch was much much easier and the kite looked and felt a lot more stable in the air. the kite also backstalled much less when the bar was fully sheeted in.

still havent decided if i like 5 line or 4 line mode better..



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