Pls tell me if its not a mistake to get 10m not 11m.
My weight is 80kg and my main board has very good low end ( La Luz 135x42).
For the last year I was on Rebel 12m that due to number of reason doesnt suit me any longer.
The Edge I need first of all for height and glide,not so much for kiteloops but still I have this in mind too.
My small kite is 8m Evo that I want to keep for now cos its good for kiteloops and jumps ok too 
.
Is it possible to use North bar with Edge,or vice versa......ozone bar with Evo.
And finally Im not going to kite in marginal winds, thats below 15 knts, apparently the Edge is hard to relaunch so in low winds I imagine it would be very hard to relaunch,I kite often on offshore winds and thats probably the reason good enough to evoid using such a kite in low winds ?.
Thanks for your advice
to answer your question i have a quiver consisting of an 8m cat , 11 & 15 edge
two bars
100kegs
I've had a lot of fun on my '12/'13 11m edges at 90kg in anything over 15kts on my custom board 136x42. Kiting for 10 years, old school free ride hooked in riding.
I have a '13 13m which I like from 12/13kts to 20kts. Starting on a light wind tt board.
I have just traded the 11m for a 10m as the over lap sweet spot was too close and the 11 was a handful over 25kts. The 10m took 6-7 weeks to show so no test rides as yet. Will re post when I have some feedback.
Based on your weight and starting at 15kts and coupled with your 8m I would look at the 11m with 23-24m line setup.
On a side note to me it feels as though kite design has gone from the flat bridled kites hitting the scene in '06 with massive wind ranges and broad performance in that range, to the more recent models over the last few years with still large wind ranges but more tuned sweet spots and ho hum performance either side of that.
Even with a couple of boards in an ideal world these days I would be running a 9,11,13,17 quiver of edges to get the most out my kiting time. Like back in '05 when I would run a 9,11,14,20 quiver of kites!!
But for now I am happy with 10/13m kites and two boards.
It's a conspiracy from the brand and shop guys!
Or maybe I'm just old and fussy now!
Yep all good advice from above. Although I would temper savages opinion on wind ranges. The bow kites may have had a great wind range but I still maintain the sweet spot was smaller.
The 11m edges wind range is enormous and the sweet spot between my three boards is a moving target. Its all about board selection and what mood you are in. My ideal sweet spot is 17 to 23 on a mako 140 at 75kg, if I'm in a crazy pumped up mood that moves from 19 to 25. On the king it is between 14 and 18. On the skim between 11 and 14.
Your winds sound similar to where I kite, my bro is 80 odd kilos and the 11m is used 70 percent of the time.
My ideal quiver would be 17, 15, 13, 11, 9, and 7 edge....a 14, 12, 10, 8 cat.....and 6 REO
And a 10m NRG liquid force,
With a 130 monk and a 150 mako added to my board quiver...
Sweet spot heaven....see where I am going with this....
imo i think ozone have done themselves with the intro of the 10, ive always had the edges in the 9 , 11 combo over the years and have often thought the 10 would be the perfect size, my perfect quiver for next year will be the zephyr 9 to 20knts ,10 edge 20 to 28knts , 7 edge 28 to high 30s , with a monk 135 and an alkita la bomb mutant, interchanging boards through the kites lets you cut down on the kite quiver,
As much as I think it is fruitless engagement to reply to you eppo....
I was referring to sle type direct bridled 4line control kites.
I've never liked any 'traditional' bow kites starting with crossbow pig back in 06.
Cezary I know it's an old chestnut but best to demo if you can. Also try on your own bar if possible - it's amazing how better or worse a kite feels on different bars with different setups - eg lines ( I ride Q pro only) size of bar, offtake V of centre lines etc etc.
Select to expand quoteKurt Savage said...
As much as I think it is fruitless engagement to reply to you eppo....
Ahhh but you have! I do see what you mean though must admit.
Cauncy yeh man totally agree I have a 10 in my shed as I Type. Listen to this man he understands edges.
My bottom kite will be a 14m cat I'm 10kg lights than you. Also 7m edge didn't agree with me so its an 8 cat.
Had 10 out I marginal 12 to 15 on a mako king today for half an hour plus on the middle factory settings. ( would normally have it on fast ), yep it is indeed the perfect combination of turning speed and hang time. But let me wait until some decent winds to confirm.
bastarrrrds! with all this 10 edge loving going round i now need a 10 edge!..
but ii've fryed my $$$ till next year!... Grr.
Thanks everybody for adv so far.......extra Question reg the bar......if I go for the ozone bar should it be contact bar or C4 bar,they say that C4 bar is ultimate for the handlepasses and kiteloops,Im not intrested in handlepasses but kiteloops yes, very much so.... I cant figure the diffrence between those two
....also is 50cm good size for 10/11m ?...
Um why would you want the 45cm C4 bar on a 10 or 11m edge? 50cm contact will do just fine.
More on the 10m, was um 14 to 17 today, was holding ground on the 140 mako but ended up getting on the mako king and was nicely powered, not as much as I'd want but still enough for a to throw down my soft freestyle gaybo moves. Coup,e of double back rolls, some one foot boards offs etc, with enough height to make it a reasonable albeit 'zen' style session.
One thing is clear and edge riders will relate. The edge to boost is all about how much speed you can hold without being taken off your line. The 11 can drag you a little without correct technique, the 9m you can lose some power and speed if you load on the edge to early.
The 10m seems to allow you to ride at flat out speeds and send it to jump so the speed is translated into height. Its window if you like for timing regarding edge jumping technique is a fair bit wider. And yet there is that little bit more canopy to give you hang time closer to the 11m.
Also quick enough for looping roll rotation transitions etc and basic looping on a jump to.
Nice size.
But I do think it will take 20 knots before it comes alive and 23 up before it is in the real grin territory.
Low end is still remarkable was on the king Sunday on 12 to 14 knots maybe, going upwind. Nothing to write home about as you still needed to carefully use the apparent wind but heck can't complain.
Will update later this week if the forecast holds true...
Actually looking good hey.
I didnt think about 45cm bar but 54cm for the matterhoping that bigger bar could make her faster !.........especially if I finally decide on 11m what would be probably most logical move ,but Im very tempted by 10m,being only 5kg heavier than you I belive its still the option,especially after reading what T-one said
hoping that bigger bar could make her faster !.........especially if I finally decide on 11m what would be probably most logical move ,but Im very tempted by 10m,being only 5kg heavier than you I belive its still the option,especially after reading what T-one said
Thanks Steve,I thought about getting rid of North bar,now I will do that 100%.You are dead right that 11m will pair up well with 8m,but that cant be the onlyreason to choose this size , I do travell a lot and perhaps if Im good enough 10m could become with time my 1 kite quiver......its rare that I kite in more than 30 knots........
hoping that bigger bar could make her faster !.........especially if I finally decide on 11m what would be probably most logical move ,but Im very tempted by 10m,being only 5kg heavier than you I belive its still the option,especially after reading what T-one said
hoping that bigger bar could make her faster !.........especially if I finally decide on 11m what would be probably most logical move ,but Im very tempted by 10m,being only 5kg heavier than you I belive its still the option,especially after reading what T-one said
Where I'm from at 64kg my quiver is a zephyr and a 12 cat, I was contemplating a 11 edge, but chose the cat and my main board is the 2013 laluz
I think that's pretty simple quiver ha ha 
Hey glokite how'd ya rate your laluz. I'm trying to get on one but finding a demo is hard.
Cat is a very very different kite to the edge. At 64kg you'd be incredibly powered on an 11m edge even at 16, 17 knots. 20 you'd be holding in for dear life. Man what about 25 ? Surely you are not in the 12 cat.
Hey Eppo , im 63kg and ride a 2012 132 luluz . its great in light wind can use my 8m c4 in a good 17ish knots . it seems to glide thru the lulls and is so light . have put 1,5 fins on to loosen it up , but bigger fins in light winds imho . the 2011 was too flexy , and havent tried the 2013 . sorry for thread jack cezary
Sorry man didn't realise you were up there. That makes sense now. [:)
Lighter guys have it made kiting wise, living in the tropics and light, double luck!!
