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Cabrina kite system self landing new ?

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Created by windjunky01 > 9 months ago, 3 Jan 2009
windjunky01
WA, 2 posts
3 Jan 2009 1:29PM
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Any one know about a self landing system for New Cabrinas (i think) any one tried it in strong gusty winds 20 - 25 knots May be a diffrent brand something to do with the bar set up. Please reply with facts or a location of website to look at thanks

3 Jan 2009 5:51PM
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windjunky01 said...

Any one know about a self landing system for New Cabrinas (i think) any one tried it in strong gusty winds 20 - 25 knots May be a diffrent brand something to do with the bar set up. Please reply with facts or a location of website to look at thanks


Rider: 53yo, arthritic, forever intermediate, garbage collector
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Freestyle
Weather: 20-35+ knots
Build Quality: 8/10
Satisfaction: 8/10
Disclosure: shop owner and juvenile

My Comments:

Yes Cabrinha IDS is a new style of self landing and 99% emergency depowering and self landing system. Yes I have used it on 7M, 9M, 10M and 13M Crossbow kites in the upper windranges for each kite show above, in locations where I could ditch the kite if it did not work well.
Everytime it has worked very well for me. I have always released the chicken loop when the kite is between 11 and 1 in the wind window, so almost straight overhead.
most times the kite has landed leading edge into the wind basically straight downwind or a bit off centre.
A couple of times it landed and then took off upside down like a kite ona fifth line can, and hovered a couple of M above the ground.
When this happened I simply wrpped the IDS line around my harness hook once and then fed the line onto and away from my hook with a hand over hand motion, once I got to the Y in the front lines I just transferred to one of the front lines and worked my way to the kite then just grabbed the LE and turned it over.
Then I just dropped the front line, walked back and got my bar and pulled it away and downwind of the kite until the IDS line was ready to be reset on the chicken loop - no tangles, walked into the water and rinsed all the sand off and reset the chicken loop, too easy to self land in any winds I reckon.

The IDS line is now upgraded and is plastic coated where it goes through the bar does not wear like the older red IDS line. The new grey and black plastic coated one is a free upgrade from any Cabrinha dealer.

I only gave it 8 and 8 because of the need to do the upgrade, but once you do it that will be the last time you will. The second 8 is because it does not wind up the lines and give me a Bl#w J#b.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCBIDS


windjunky01
WA, 2 posts
3 Jan 2009 5:23PM
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Cheer thanks Steve ill look into that Id line from Cabrina

sharmat
QLD, 30 posts
3 Jan 2009 11:50PM
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Steve,

I am looking to upgrade my kite from a north Rebel 14m. I had a go on a 12m switchblade ids the other day and loved the feel. I have not yet been able to try a crossbow. I liked the light feel of the sb and it seemed to turn fast and boost high. The wind was blowing 13-18 knots. I have only ever had one kite in my quiver and would like your opinion on which kite to go for. I am 90kg and ride a 136 Naish thorn. I am looking for something that will have a good wind range, lighter on the bar than the rebel, faster turning than the rebel and boost as well as the rebel. What are your thoughts?

laurie
WA, 3858 posts
4 Jan 2009 2:15PM
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For self landing stuff click on this handy dandy article:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/How-to-self-land-your-kite_2165109.aspx

4 Jan 2009 11:28PM
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sharmat said...

Steve,

I am looking to upgrade my kite from a north Rebel 14m. I had a go on a 12m switchblade ids the other day and loved the feel. I have not yet been able to try a crossbow. I liked the light feel of the sb and it seemed to turn fast and boost high. The wind was blowing 13-18 knots. I have only ever had one kite in my quiver and would like your opinion on which kite to go for. I am 90kg and ride a 136 Naish thorn. I am looking for something that will have a good wind range, lighter on the bar than the rebel, faster turning than the rebel and boost as well as the rebel. What are your thoughts?


This years SB IDS is a pretty sweet ride, its a really good all rounder, its good in waves although smaller sizes are probably better suited to unstrapped riding.
For general freestyle and a much more user friendly, better performing kite, than your old ride go the SB IDS.
No battens, stronger construction and overall better build quality too, cleaner bar, easier tuning and trimming, faster turning and flying and much easier relaunch, packs up smaller, proven one pump system, much better back up and service in Australia from the very professional and experienced Cab dealer network.
Self landing with the IDS system is a cinch.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

sharmat
QLD, 30 posts
6 Jan 2009 12:39PM
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could you self launch the new cab ids by doing the exact opposite of the self land?

7 Jan 2009 9:26AM
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sharmat said...

could you self launch the new cab ids by doing the exact opposite of the self land?


NOOOOO, you absolutely cannot self land the IDS kites by any of the methods shown in the videos that Laurie posted a link for.
If you do land by those mthods you can get nailed if you don't get it right, and the kite relaunches with a rear line wrapped on the bar!!!
(has happened to me and I am very familiar with the method)

IDS kites can only be self landed by releasing the chicken loop, and they cannot be self launched by doing the opposite, nor can any of the other kites in the videos.

Sounds like you need a lessons or refresher on self landing and or the IDS system??

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
7 Jan 2009 11:09AM
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Steve brings up a good point. Rick Iossi in the states had a nasty wipeout recently when he assumed it would work the same and found himself going through kiteloop heaven across some sand dunes. IDS + old cabrinha self landing method = accident.

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
7 Jan 2009 2:26PM
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The IDS self landing works like a dream for me, I kite on my own a fair bit and have been using the IDS for the last 4 months, in winds up to 30 knots, without any problems at all. I kite very regularly, and have still not worn through the original self landing lines which have now been replaced by the plastic covered ones.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
13 Jan 2009 6:00PM
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I use the old method for self landing and it works fine for me but some of these comments have me concerned...

How do the lines end up around the bar end etc..... ?

I unhoook my chicken loop then grab the front lines about a metre above the bar... even if the kite relaunches i still have it by the front lines and barely any power and can easily guide it down again.

Seems to work really well still............ or maybe i am an accident waiting to happen

pearl
NSW, 984 posts
14 Jan 2009 12:09PM
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To self land my IDS using IDS system:
You need the full 180 degrees downwind free of obtacles. I hook my short safety into the IDS line ring (go through the chicken loop metal ring as well if you unhook); I don't trust the QR2 as it can loosen with riding, sand etc and have had it release.
For gentle landing in lighter winds put kite down at edge of window on wingtip; then walk directly upwind... Kite will be leading edge down directly downwind. Release QR1 to ids and kite will roll onto its back like 5th line.
For strong winds I do it at edge of water as in users manual. Let go of bar with kite at 12 oclock. Release QR1. Kite will either land leading edge down into the wind or hover like on a 5th line. The thing I hate is walking up/around the lines. You can use the current on the waters edge to keep them clear. As long as you don't let go, their is no power in the kite if it moves



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