Hi Kitehard,
can you tell me where did you get span 43/53 from, CORE spec.57/45 , quite a diffrence.
Cheers
Hey Cezary,
Oops! My bad, too many numbers running through my head. Changed my post to reflect your correctness ![]()
Thanks for the correction.
Good winds,![]()
Tried one on Monday night. Was impressed with the build quality, responsiveness and speed across the window, range of depower system. 9m was well powered in conditions I would have ridden my old 12 in (depowered). Need to have another session to really see how it performs on boosts for me.
Only thing I'm a bit dubious on is the microloop, twice got this accidentally locked in with full power. Not sure how safe this is can someone explain, seeing as Core is supposed to be about "safety and performance".
From another forum:
Hi Rescueme,
The mini loop is for more advanced riders and is easy to remove by cutting it off with a Stanley knife. The Core bar bag contains a second mini loop if you wish to re-install it at a later date should you need it.
Personally, I love the mini loop, I get to rest my arms when needed, I can throw old school tricks at a whim, and working the kite one handed is so easy in underpowered conditions. Having said all that, I wouldn't recommend it to noobs or less confident riders.
Another less permanent method of disabling the loop is to cable tie it against the bar so it can't catch on the hook.
I hope that helps.
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yeah, I can see the advantages of the miniloop, long rides back upwind, unhooking, etc
guess i've been so used to being overpowered on my 12m in perth's winds that the idea of locking on at full power is a bit strange ![]()
From what I can see, I presume that if you are riding unhooked and drop the bar the pseudo-5th line safety still activates, cool.
Also on that note, from the core website corekites.com/us
Hi rescueme,
You've posted a fair question, allow me to try and answer it for you.
The mini 5th line is a short safety line that runs within the chicken loop stem, up past the trim strap and connects to the bottom of the "Y" of the front lines. The front lines start from the trim strap as a single line and split into two about 7 or so metres up away from the bar.
When you release the bar by activating the chicken loop release, the mini 5th line is pulled and all tension is then transferred to the "Y" of the front lines. Due to the pulley setup on the kites bridle, it allows the kite to fall flat on it's leading edge with all pull from near the centre of the leading edge, sort of like a 5th line works on a normal long 5th.
I've tested the safety system intentionally and inadvertantly a few times and each time the kite has dropped immediately onto it's leading edge into the wind with almost no pull, a very effective safety system!
To convert to a normal 5th line setup, you can optionally buy a longer 5th line extension to continue from the mini 5th line directly to the centre of the leading edge more like a traditional 5th line kite. I wouldn't see any reason why you would benefit from this style of setup as the 4 line mini 5th allows the kite to tumble through it's own bridles and still relaunch whilst the safety system is not effected, unlike a full length traditional 5th line.
I hope this helps.
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Here is a link to the GT Manual Download if you want detailed info on safety systems and relaunch procedures etc:http://www.core-kites.com/download/CORE_GT_Manual_english_v1.pdf
So I bit the bullet and bought two GTs, 10.5 and 7m. I still haven't ridden the 10.5m but had the 7m up on Wed at Pinnas when it was blowing 27+ knots. I had the kite fully powered up and it had massive grunt to launch me (95kg) out of the water several meters when I tried my first waterstart, oops. The kite is super responsive to arm movements in and out, so much so that it almost self handles gusts... when a gust comes it naturally pulls your arms a further couple of inches away from your body and that is normally enough to reduce power enough to handle it. The kite is so fast through the air, its just a joy to fly. I didn't feel the need to take the option to reduce the bar width, would there be much of a reason to??
Mates have commented on my riding that I am "lucky my kite floats", well when you put this this down it doesn't even float but seems to do an anti-gravity thing about a metre or two above the water at the edge of the window.
Love the push out quick release on the bar and also on the safety harness, both very easy to find in an emergency. I don't know how I did it but I did manage to accidentially operate the chicken loop release...
Questions for Kitehard or other Core riders:
With the microloop engaged, if I drop the bar does that fully depowers the kite or do I need to hit the chicken loop release? I'm thinking that the point of the microloop is keeping full power so if you drop the bar you need to hit the chicken loop release pretty damn smartly, is this correct?
And whats the best recovery strategy from the above situation (whatever you need to do when you dropping the bar or fall with the microloop engaged)? I'm an ex wakeboarder (10 years ago though lol...) so really want to give some unhooked riding a go, just need a bit more understanding of the microloop.
And, with the 7m, are there any advantages to bringing the lines in to the smaller bar diameter or would you not bother?
Ta
Hi Rescueme,
I'll start by answrring the second part first as I'm still trying to understand the first question ![]()
The inside and outside setting on the bar steering attach lines will reduce or increase the steering input by varying the amount the lines that will be moved towards or away from the kite in a hard turn.
If you ride with the outside (widest settings) the kite will turn and loop tighter and faster. If you put the steering lines on the inside (narrowest) setting, then you'll have less input to steering and will subsequently turn a bit slower and possibly a slightly wider arc. The way I see it, unless you are having issues controling your kite, leave it on the outside settings. Fast is good once you get usd to it. ![]()
Second First question. If you mean you are hooked in to the chicken loop and also are hooked into the micro loop, when you fall, you will fall hard and the kite will not depower, it will remain powered up and stay that way until you either unhook the micro loop or fire the chicken loop quick release. As you hit the water, the sudden line loading will force the kite to neutral so it will depower some anyways.
Not sure what you mean by dropping the bar?? Do you mean you are unhooked and physically drop the bar? Or do you mean you are hooked in and letting go of the bar?? If you are unhooked, there is no need to use the micro loop as the bar will be at full power anyway.
The Micro loop is set on an angle away from the hook on the chicken loop so as you don't accidentally hook into the micro loop. It is usually necessary to pull the bar in, use your thumb or forfinger to "flick" the micro loop in behind the CL hook and then ease the bar away allowing the hook to catch and rest in the micro loop. This holds the bar at almost full power.
If you wish to disengage the micro loop, all you need to do is pull in on the bar to full power for a split second! As the micro loop is offset to be out of the way of the hook, as soon as you release the pressure of the loop on the hook and the loop clears the end of the hook, it will release it and you'll need to pull the loop back into engage the hook again. You need to sheet all the way in to enter or exit the micro loop and must guide the hook into the loop for entry. Exiting the loop is automatic with sheeting to full power.
If you ride with the safety on the stainless ring of the mini 5th, then all you have to do is push the quick release ring away to deploy the flagging safety system. Simple, safe & functional.
If I'm on the wrong track, let me know and I'll try and help further.
Good winds and glad you are enjoying the kites ![]()
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