"Any difference"? Briefly, yes.
To start with, you do know the C4 is a bridled C? It obviously has many advantages/disadvantages (depending on who you're talking with).. ![]()
Then search for folks who have owned/flown Fuel, Torch & Vegas back to back.
Check out the latest Kite World has a whole section devoted to C Kites including reviews of the latest.
all very different c kites though!
c4 and vegas have the options to increase depower by knot adjustments on the leading edge - more user friendly and versitile
Vegas and torch are loading 5th lines - more stable and 5th line safety.
c4 has a bridle - more stable and higher depower.
fuel is the only true 4 line c kite - more responsive and speed
in terms of aggressiveness i would say IMO c4<vegas<torch<fuel.
btw no guru, just a c kite enthusiast :)
Yes there is plenty of difference between C kites.
As has already been said the C4 has a bridle, the Tourch and Vesas are 5 line and the Fuel is 4 line.
Every C kite will be have excellent Pop, Slack, Looping and wave riding, the degree to which each element excels is different with each kite and different riders will get different results. I have tried the C4 and Vegas but settled on the Tourch. Other people will prefer there C4's, Vegas's and Fuels.
As with any kite if you want to know what suits you best try them out.
Agreed depends on your slant/riding ambitions. The torch is closer to a true C, very powerful. The C4 and Vegas have a lot of C in them but are also good all-rounders. They work very well in the surf as well. hence Why I went a vegas, and would seriously consider a C4. The torch is an out and out C kite for powered wakestyle moves. Great kite but not my style (I'm too old and too slow). Work that out first. But that being said I have seen guys on the vegas and C4on flat water hitting the wakestyle limits of the sport.
Thanx for your input brothers of kitesurfing ![]()
I'm actually after a high wind kite and have decided that a C is the way to go,
because I think a C is less likely to invert and has better stability.
Also relaunch wont be an issue cause its cranking 25kn +
I'm just an old hooked in freerider who doesnt want to miss any wind
below 30kn so C4 or Vegas sounds good in 8m ![]()
well i recond the c4 is sweet to 30 maybe 35 knots. but its abit punchy with not enough depower for hell out storm sessions. I step out of the c4 and into a reo for 30+ knots. That little bastard has sooo much depower it makes riding 30 to 40 easy peasy.
In high wind the Veagas is great supper stable with the loaded 5 line and still safe ,but everyone is different some people find them to fast but not me
Have fun
George
Can you go back to a hybrid/bow/delta from a C kite or C4?
Having felt the astonishing turbo boost of C-kites (not necessarily the highest boost but the explosive rate of ascent) is it boring on all other kites?
I'm thinking of trying something new this summer but I'm worried that going from the C4 the only ones that will excite me will be the Fuel or the Torch?
If you really enjoying "flying the kite" as opposed to just being towed by it, will you miss the sensation of hurling a c-kite through the power zone, up and down to generate wild amounts of grunt? and the predictable tight downloops and kiteloops (not that I do kiteloops unless I feel suicidal)
I think we all know that most kites are essentially the same year after year. Especially when they make a good one that sells well and gets rave reviews.
OMFG New Colours! I bet it goes bigger ![]()
just read the kiteworld test and reviews very good read if your a c kite lover,all done by profesional non team riders so no biased oppinion by the sounds of it the fuel is the winner for the purists and the c4 for the rest of us check it out on kiteworld.com
Wishy, I think if you pull the trigger on your GT you might change your mind on explosive Boost!
My old Fuse was still the best Boosting kite I've flown.
Wait until you see the new North Vegas! It's changed. And it rides so amazingly well. Can't give anything away though ![]()
When they hit Australia in September, do yourself a favour and demo one, borrow one, steal one from a mate while they are at work...just get out on the water on one and give it a shot!