Anyone.....
I currently fly an 05 Dream 12 and looking to move on. I'm looking very closely at the M6 but looking for some feedback first.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
iv'e flown the dream 12 and the m5 12 and impacts, tribals and previous models.....
the impacts are the **** compared to the dream, they are a step faster, smoother pull and with a lot more depower from just the bar movement, they eat the gusts, if thats what you want... if you think the dream was a bit fast and want to slow down and get more hang time then the m6 would be better, its more for hooked in riding, massive booosts or massively and i mean hugely (expert) powered unhooked riding, and the tribal is in between both, with the greatest depower of the lot but a little slower than the impact.
if your not sure what to get, i would go the impact, it will garanteed put a smile on your dial and be a good huge difference to the dream that your riding now.
chop. thanks for the input. i have flown an impact 13 and found it really really quick but lacking the boosting ability of the dream. hence i'm thinking the M6 might be the way forward.
what is the bar pressure of the M6 compared to the impact??? i've heard that the M5's were a bit heavy on the bar but that they've sorted that out this year. how's the turning???
Both the impact and tribal, take a few sessions to get jumps dialled in.
Once you've clicked on the right technique for the Impact it jumps with the best of them. Plus you can send it back near horizontal and still recover for a smooth landing.
The Tribal, with its extra C/loop line length gives you a bit more depower, that lets you hold more edge till you pop and heave in on the bar. It then time to contact Air traffic control.
However the Tribal likes to be not over sent, and likes more air pressure in the LE.
And while the Tribal has more depower, the Impact actually is more controllable at the very top of their windranges. meaning in say the 13m sizes you would take the Impact out in a couple more Knots than the Tribal.
even if you tossed a coin to choose between them, whichever one came up heads you would be stoked in once dialled in.
thanks for the info on the impact and tribal, but i am really interested in the M6 here...anyone got any input???
Can't help with the M6 but I've got a M5 16m for sale. fantastic condition red/blue with bar/lines/pump and bag. Must sell as I'm heading O/S. $1100
they sound hot
www.f-one.world/?id_kite=12
i think this is one brand that you can actually rely on advertising alone and not worry about what others think...
i have impacts and they are amazing
I can get you a M6 16m. then you can tell us how it is.
but after flying the Tribal 15m it is a case of " how fussy are we".
I have the 16 M6 now, but haven't had the conditions to test it yet. I'll give you feedback if needed when I've tested it.
Cheers!
well, the waters are still solid here, but melting soon I do hope =)
But I had to try the 16 at the beach (not buggying just by foot) and here's what I found:
I weigh 77kg and the wind was 12-13knots.
There surely was enough wind for me to be able to ride on the water but no luck due to ice. The kite turned fast for it's size, bar pressure was a bit more than Rhino5 14m2 which was my biggest kite last year. Jumps definately higher and longer in those winds than Rhino5 14m2, one thing to remember that there could have been some extra lift from the wind being 'buoyant' due to hot land and cold sea.
One thing I noticed was that the sheeting range was short, abt 15cm from power on to lackish back lines and then there was no more pull, so this would suggest that the kite has big depower potential.
The fifth line was really slack when I tried the kite, but that's just a tuning issue. The kite turned quite closely on its wing tip, I really didn't want to crank it as I wasn't on the water and I like to be cautious on the beach.
All in all, really looking forward to test it on the water. One guy said that it looked somewhat like a bow, and I noticed this when I pumped it up since the kite looks to be more open profile compared to normal C-kites and naturally, the more open profile the better the low end due to more exposed kite clothe to the wind.
cheers
Markus
Hi Ascole,
I decided to go to F-one kites in January after riding the 9m dream 05 of one of my friends, and I had the same issue, M6, Impact or Tribal?
I had not gone through the transition into unhooked riding yet, so it made things even harder to make my mind. However I have always liked doing big airs with big hangtime. The guy at the shop then told me to go for the 12 m2 M6. It's written on the bag; "Power under control", and it truly is. And the wind range is incredible, 12 knots to "how much you want" (I took it out in 30knots, but might handle more). You can adjust the 5th line length and get more out of your kite.
Bar pressure: as I said “Power Under Control”, the bar position itself where it should be. Big Gusts are not an issue anymore.
Turning: Really quick, the kite reacts instantly.
Upwind: That's another thing that amazed me; I am always able to go upwind, even in 12 knots. And even with my small board (125).
Jumps: BIG! And you stay in control…
Unhooked: Well I am not an expert, but last month I passed my first Backspin kiteloops and frontspin downloops. Still working on the handle pass though… However it’s true that it will require more skills the more wind there is.
Safety: Well, Power Control, and 5th Element. Says it all…
All in all I reckon it’s a great Kite.
If you give me your e-mail address, I can send some pics… Also, I will be going to Mauritius in 2 months for the winter winds, where there is an average wind of 25-30 knots everyday for about 3-4months. I might need to have a smaller kite. So give me a buzz if you are interested in this one.
Cheers
Thanks for the post....it confirms sort of what i had thought about the kite. I really dig the dream as it is nice and boosty, but want something that has a bit more power and quicker turning so the M6 seems the go. Some of the comments on the M5 have been about high bar pressure but all in all I think everyone who had one liked it, so the M6 should have all the good bits but none of the bad.
Would you characterize the M6 as being fairly high aspect??? The website suggests that they have lowered the aspect ratio from the M5.
Also, how is it unhooked?? Nice constant power or quick to the edge of the window?
What about low end?? The dream can be a bit gutless below about 15 knots even though the bag says 12-24. I'm about 80 kgs on a FLX 128.
I would love to see some pics if you have them. you can send them to sgo-cns@bigpond.net.au.
As for buying yours....we can talk. I'm not really in a big hurry to buy a kite but i could buy a kite tomorrow if it was the right one.
I have been told the bar pressure on the M6 has been reduced from that of the m5. You don't notice bar pressure until your a) overpowered or b, underpowered and pumping the kite all the time... and the bar pressure on the new impact for example is probably about 20-50%less than that of the m5 and dream3 ie, first thing i notice is arms don't ever get tired. Where are you located because your best bet would be to get in contact with a retailer and try them out.... I know xshore had impact/tribal and could possibly get an m6 for you to demo.
