Being flying 17's for two years, on the edge for over a year and also have the 19m edge bugger hand pumping IMHO. I use an electric pump works a treat set to 10psi never fails me (so far anyway).
Why would you not count pumps? What else is there to do whilst pumping?
You obviously do not have an active brain and will probably get early onset dementia haha!
Select to expand quotepilotpete said..
Being flying 17's for two years, on the edge for over a year and also have the 19m edge bugger hand pumping IMHO. I use an electric pump works a treat set to 10psi never fails me (so far anyway).
Christ 10 psi hey! Be able to balance a cracked egg on that leading edge! Like em firm and taught mate?
i just pumped my new 14m rpm. Biggest before that i had was 11. Couldnt imagine the 17 must be massive hah
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Being flying 17's for two years, on the edge for over a year and also have the 19m edge bugger hand pumping IMHO. I use an electric pump works a treat set to 10psi never fails me (so far anyway).
Yep . Standard equipment in Darwin . Big kites and too bloody hot .
Used to be 50 pumps - beer - 50 pumps - beer - 10 pumps - 10 pumps - beer - then kite .
Now - electric pump - beer while pumping - kite - much more cost and health effective
Select to expand quoteeddiemorgs said...pilotpete said..
Being flying 17's for two years, on the edge for over a year and also have the 19m edge bugger hand pumping IMHO. I use an electric pump works a treat set to 10psi never fails me (so far anyway).
Yep . Standard equipment in Darwin . Big kites and too bloody hot .
Used to be 50 pumps - beer - 50 pumps - beer - 10 pumps - 10 pumps - beer - then kite .
Now - electric pump - beer while pumping - kite - much more cost and health effective
Eddie you should start you own health kitesurfing clinic, here's the picture for your website....
And this can be your first testimonials for someone using your electric pump / health idea...lol
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Well, I give it all for 50 pumps straight, die, ..
Might be something to do with the smokes Eppo ?
Healthy living is the go - as the photos show
Yeh me and my German mate were knockin back hey! Wouldn't fit into your health camp in Darwin with the electric pumps for sure.
Lol!!!!
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Why would you not count pumps? What else is there to do whilst pumping?
You obviously do not have an active brain and will probably get early onset dementia haha!
I have a very active mind and an even bigger imagination which is why I don't count pumps! I focus on imagining a bikini clad babe pumping for me. How could I count pumps with all that going on
So essentially you are imagining yourself as a bikini clad chick pumping your own kite. Fair enough, think I might just stick to counting...
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So essentially you are imagining yourself as a bikini clad chick pumping your own kite. Fair enough, think I might just stick to counting...
You have not met me eppo.....I could be the bikini clad chick of your dreams.....
Oh god I just imagined you in a mankini pumping up my kite with ya left nut hanging out. Damn you got a hairy back.
I think I need to start cooking pancakes for the kids, gotta get my head in a much better place...
Bright Green......just kidding.....it is actually more something like this that I think about:
Try counting now 
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Reckon I'd have to count still...to keep on the job longer than 10 seconds...
been off kiting for a year due to injury and been a reasonably loyal north fan (vegas)... thing is ive swapped to ozones and got edges and a zephyr after demoing 2 (9 and 13) edges...took a punt on the zephyr based on forum write ups (some here)......well got out today on it for the first time.
wind was light 8-10 knots on a 132 tt at 81 pies for me ..managed to trawl across the beach and back... thinking the whole time a skim board will set this off nicely...then the wind picked up to i would guess 12-14 knots max!!
bloody hellfire !! this kite is just awesome ..was tanking upwind , loads of power ,very controllable , jumps werent electric lift but not bad for what amounts to bu**er all wind.
i was surprised that it actually turns reasonably fast for a 17m kite... very good purchase
the only problem i have ,and its a nice situation to find myself is i also have 13-11-9-7 edges.....so i wonder how much the 13 will get used as i reckon the 11m edge could just about over lap the zephyr...but i like the overlaps small as it gives the best sweet spots............... (broke the bank though 
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Honestly you don't need the 13. I'm out on the zephyr when my bro is on his 11m edge (although he has some voodoo light wind **** going on with his edges?) from 14/15 up and he was bang on what you do. Its the 11 to 14 area that he struggles unless he gets on a big strapless SB, but he not having near as much fun.
The zephyr at your weight will easily got to 18 maybe 20 ( but your winds are colder and denser than ours), especially if you have access to a smaller board.
Zephyr to 11m edge you will still have an overlap. The edge in that 11m size has the most incredible ow end and top end of them all.
But yeh 13m will allow you to dial in exactly the right sweet spot, and also allow a different style of riding.
But if you want some more cash back no probs getting rid of it hey,
A little more feedback on the zephyr and a great combo.
Zephyr and nugget.
15 kts, 85 kgs. Skinny wind. Small waves.
For me , in Darwin , this combination is going to mean a lot more time on the water and enjoyment of waves which was not there before , having had this session today.
The kite drifts , transitions quickly and the board assists in keeping things going in lulls. On several occasions I forgot about the kite while riding a wave and felt the kite backing down - looking at the kite , it looked like was going to drop into the water but it sort of hung , closed up and offered to recover - reefed on a steering line and recovered. In my experience with another kite , it would have ended in the water.
Am stoked. It's a great combination for anyone who wants a light wind wave setup. Looking forward to the wet season.
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Honestly you don't need the 13. I'm out on the zephyr when my bro is on his 11m edge (although he has some voodoo light wind **** going on with his edges?) from 14/15 up and he was bang on what you do. Its the 11 to 14 area that he struggles unless he gets on a big strapless SB, but he not having near as much fun.
The zephyr at your weight will easily got to 18 maybe 20 ( but your winds are colder and denser than ours), especially if you have access to a smaller board.
Zephyr to 11m edge you will still have an overlap. The edge in that 11m size has the most incredible ow end and top end of them all.
But yeh 13m will allow you to dial in exactly the right sweet spot, and also allow a different style of riding.
But if you want some more cash back no probs getting rid of it hey,
my 13 edge (old 7 strut 2010 beast) gives big grins 16-23 knots. Its a great size to have if you have shifting winds cranking past 20 knots but also lows under 15. On those days a 17 zep gets abit of a handfull and an 11 edge is a super sweet beast but for me the big grins occured 18+ knots so sub 18 is abit boring.
We get quite alot of those days here where a 17 is just too much but an 11 is enough..... I guess I comes down to you location and most common wind scenario's.
PS yes you can run straight from zep to 11 or 10 edge. But you miss the sweet spot for the 13M!!
I agree with eppo the 13 will probably barely get used at all. I have a 14m Vector which was the kite I learned on and just bought a Zeph. I can't see the 14 coming out very often anymore. I am also really impressed with the speed of the Zeph. For such a big kite it moves very well. I am a big keg so it is perfect for me.
My quiver is now an Airush Lithium Zero for light wind....this is an awesome kite for us big fella's. Impressed the crap out of me what Airrush have done with this big beast.....Zeph which will take me from around 12 - 23 knots (held it at 23 a few weeks ago and had a blast....11m Switch blade and and 8m Switchblade.....
I am keen to try some other Ozone kites down the track once my Cabs get a little tired.
Hmmm. Have ordered the 13 m dice to fill the gap between zeph and 10 m .
I dont expect it to act anything like a 10-12m but hope it carries the characteristics of the design through to the 13 with just a little more size to cope with skinny air and cover down to 10m or smaller .
Comment that it depends on the place is quite true . Up here we need to err more on the low end of the wind range rather than the top end when looking at a kite .
Will see how it goes .
13m edge and 13m dice very different eddie is that's your concern. Be a fine overlap I think. Dice does have a remarkable bottom end though...as we are finding out. But nothing like a 13m edge, nothing beats the wind range of that machine.
Select to expand quotePlummet said..eppo said..
Honestly you don't need the 13. I'm out on the zephyr when my bro is on his 11m edge (although he has some voodoo light wind **** going on with his edges?) from 14/15 up and he was bang on what you do. Its the 11 to 14 area that he struggles unless he gets on a big strapless SB, but he not having near as much fun.
The zephyr at your weight will easily got to 18 maybe 20 ( but your winds are colder and denser than ours), especially if you have access to a smaller board.
Zephyr to 11m edge you will still have an overlap. The edge in that 11m size has the most incredible ow end and top end of them all.
But yeh 13m will allow you to dial in exactly the right sweet spot, and also allow a different style of riding.
But if you want some more cash back no probs getting rid of it hey,
my 13 edge (old 7 strut 2010 beast) gives big grins 16-23 knots. Its a great size to have if you have shifting winds cranking past 20 knots but also lows under 15. On those days a 17 zep gets abit of a handfull and an 11 edge is a super sweet beast but for me the big grins occured 18+ knots so sub 18 is abit boring.
We get quite alot of those days here where a 17 is just too much but an 11 is enough..... I guess I comes down to you location and most common wind scenario's.
PS yes you can run straight from zep to 11 or 10 edge. But you miss the sweet spot for the 13M!!
honestly ive been on a zephyr 2013 10 and 7 edge quiv for a while, if you like to ride powered the isnt a need for a 13, this quiver has me beautifully powered from 15 to 40knts, if a 13 edge and a zephyr were pumped up for me to choose in said winds id be taking the zephyr, the upper limits are insane i was having a ball when a mate was on a 8mtr cab switchblade , hes a little lighter than me but impressive none the less
I agree with you guys on the overlap... I have a older 17 Zephyr and 10 & 7 Meter Rebels. The overlap for me is great 10 - 30 plus knots. I was going to demo the new dice and have not had a chance... Work and study has been hectic.... Eppo is right... from talking to guys about the dice it a really different kite to the edge. I would not buy a 13 metre if you have the 17 zephyr. I have packed up my old Rebel 14 and I only pull it out when a mate needs a go in light winds (newbie)...
Al
Wheres you guys dedication to multiple kite quivers? Sure Going 17m to 10m is easily possible. But why not have a 13 in there as well?
You guys with you 3 and 4 kite quivers just aren't dedicated enough to riding in the sweet spot all the time!......
I'm loving my 5 kite quiver. 15,13,10,8,6...... oh yeah.
Yeh true more kites the better for sure.
Although the sweet spot for the zephyr for me is about 12 to 20 knots depending on what board I'm using.....
Then I step onto the next kite size fully powered and grinning...
I don't think my fat ass could jump form 17 to 10 - how are you doing it?!?
Only have a quiver like I do cos I had too much free time in my old job... 21, 19, 17.5, 16, 15, 13, 12, 10, 7... I could ditch 2 of those easy though :D
