Eppo
Read it on another kite forum.
They said it was a kite repairer that told them.
Was on kite forum, will see if I can find it.
The thread wasnt on north kites, cant remember the topic, someone mentioned it when talking about repairs? Was about 2 weeks ago.
Wowowow... it's still running!
Ok, 8 pages hey? Well, I can't contribute from experience but apparently the Stig has a Rebel and he fills it with helium
Does this help? I guess every little post does... 
I cut and pasted this from another forum, that is far less superiour than the legendary seabreeze.
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I know the local repair shops and Airtime really seem to prefer the T9600 over these new proprietary materials. I've heard reports that the newer materials do not tear cleanly but instead fray and stretch in weird ways making repair jobs a bit of a nightmare to line the original pattern back up again.
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The stretching part sounds like a bit of a worry.
What if the kite gets smashed by a wave with not quite enough force to rip it but enough to streeeeeeeeetch it?
Maybe a half a meter rip would be better than half a meter of stretched out of shape canopy?
finally something interesting.
All kites stretch just fly a new kite compared to a 2 year old kite but looking at the new north cloth I would of thought it would stretch less. The fraying when it's torn may be a bad side effect though.
As for 8 pages well the reo has 8 pages already and that thread is only about 1 kite
Well it does makes sense. If the original canopy is under a greater load due to the material and construction then if it does go there will be more force released. I also can see kite repairers having an issue repairing the damaged area and yet keeping it under the same tension.
But who buys a kite for its repair ability. Yes it is a good kite. 
Ps obviously the kite repairers need to upskill to meet the demands of new technology. The way the kite flies give me high tension anyday.
It's hillarious that EPPO has contributed 46 worthless posts out of a total of 193 to this REBEL V BWS topic...
Winning! 
This is like an episode of Seinfeld. It's about nothing.
Don't end this thread yet.
I like eating cheese.
Anyone care to debate this?
really BWS??? my mate has 1 and absolutely loved it..... until he tried the rebel.
I was on EVO'S and Rebels,I liked both, the EVO had some issues with Drift and flew like **** when it had any de-power on at all,the rebel was by far the superior kite thats until i demoed the Vegas best kite I have ever ridden by far!!! I don't get in to mowing the lawn so this is all based on riding in the surf
BTW isn't the BWS is a slightly re-tweaked REV, fair enough its not as pricey as some but it's old tech
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One of the things a wave kite should be able to do is to relaunch even if the canopy has rolled inside the lines - 4 line kites can do this
Can some North lover please tell me what happens to their 5th line when this happens in the surf -
Ah yes the fifth / fourth line debate continues on...
For a balanced view I ride with a fifth line because of performance and feel - for me that is... but there are two scenarios where I would consider not using a fifth like mr paranoid above:
1. I drop my kites in the water a lot - just learning/or just getting into waves...
2. I intend to really push the limits of my ability and more to the point the edge of what is out there - e.g.strapless SB with various I ride wakestyle tricks down 4 foot waves plus, or pulling into pipeline barrels!
But for performance and direct feel, just love the fifth line, that's it.
