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2010 Nobile 50 fifty Review.

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Created by waxman > 9 months ago, 4 Nov 2009
Stu101
131 posts
13 Nov 2009 7:40PM
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Gave the nhp another go yesterday fully powered ony 9m smoke and I actually really enjoyed it. Had an ocean roedeo mako king on test as well and thing is weird but wicked fun. Think I will buy one of them for light wind and wave use. As for the nhp after riding the long it felt very small and although good with all that rocker I felt like perhaps a size bigger would if be better for me. Think I could het away with the fifty 50 and be pretty happy with it so will trade my nhp in.
Would be nice if I could keep the nhp as well but they are just to damn exspensive and the bigger size the better alrounder.
Thanks for your advice.

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
14 Nov 2009 8:46AM
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So which size are you going to get the 139,140,141?

At 95 kgs im really happy on the 140 but allso ride it with boots so maby the 139 if you dont mind loosing that cm of width. You wont feel the extra length either way so just give it a go. I was just thinking of getting the NHP (selling the 666) as well so i dont have to pull the boots off of my 50 fifty or maby i should just get another 50 fifty so many decisions. Would be easy if nobile only made one good board. oh well at least you dont have to choose a colour with the 50 fifty, they look sick just the way they are.

Stu101
131 posts
14 Nov 2009 6:55AM
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Not sure mate. Probably the 140 as I like the wider boards. My trax 4 was only 40 wide and didn't plane as well as the wider nhp 09. I think 42 wide works well. The 140 is only 41 wide isn't it? Think that's will be the best out of the three?
Any body tried all three sizes or even two of the fifty 50's in different sizes that could give any feed back?

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
14 Nov 2009 9:43AM
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They arent reall wide but with the corigated bottom you get a lot more surface area going accross. I think you would be happy with the 140, at some stage definatly give some boots a go on the board as well and see how you like it.

Stu101
131 posts
16 Nov 2009 4:02AM
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Like to give boots ago but they are exspensive. surface to air over here are doing a bit of a deal on the slingshot pb floyds though at the moment so may be. Are those any good? or am i better off going for some lf oes or something?
I changed my board to the fifty 50 today. 140x41. The board is easy to ride. not sure whether i have done the right thing yet though. when the wind picked up on my 12m the board was like a rocket and not sure if it wont run away with me?
Having said that i was using the standard pro pads that came fitted with the board and i dont really think much of them as they dont lock you dowm in the toe area which is how i like to be and prefer the sandle type like cab syncs. Couldn't be bothered to fit them today but will for next time and see how i get on then.
Maybe being locked down more will give me enough control to stop that feeling that the board may run away when the wind creeps up.
Riding toe side was the nicest i have found any board so far i actually managed to go further upwind than i could toe side on any other board i have tried including my fone trax which was real sweet for that, am now thinking that maybe longer length in a board = easier to side riding? Awesome regardless.
Fifty 50 seemed to go upwind just slightly better than the nhp as well although i think you will be hard pressed to find a board that goes upwind much better than the nobile range.
Dont really think it was windy enough for jumping properly today so hard to say whether i think it is easier or had nicer pop than the nhp plus have just chaned my technique.
Still hummimg and ha'ing as to which is the better. Think i need another session in higher winds to decide. Both cracking boards though!!!!

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
16 Nov 2009 9:10AM
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The 50 fifty does feel like it wants to go fast, well it does go fast but tracks really well but stomp the back foot and she will pull up easily.

If yo can get a good deal on some ss pb floyds go for it they are awsome boots, I have them on my 50 fifty and love them, and i have never had a problem with the closed in toe getting sand in it like some people might say.

Boots feel weird the first few times out but you really need to get used to them before you decide if you like them or not, you will definatly hold a better edge when the wind comes up and the pbs are a verry flexy boot so you arent to restricted in landing toe side or tweaking grabs.

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
16 Nov 2009 9:40AM
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leeton said...

Waxman you seem to know the Nobile Boards well, I need some advice. Can't choose between the NHP or 50 fifty and the size for that matter. I'm 68kgs- 5'9, just started riding powered C kites (best move I've made), have basic unhooked tricks down and just started handle passes. Local beach can get pretty choppy at times. Current board LF recoil 08 132. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers


Well with the fifty 50 i would try the 139 x 40 or with the NHP you could try either the 131 x 40 or 134 x 42.

I think if you are ridding powered c kites and for your level of riding the NHP 131 may be perfect for you should be good in the chop and hold down a lot of power when unhooked.
I cant comment on the 50 fifty 139 but can say that my 140 feels similar to ride to my 134 nhp just has more pop/speed. If your planing on using boots in the future definatly grab the 139.

leeton
VIC, 15 posts
17 Nov 2009 9:35AM
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Cheers Waxman, thanks for the advice. Now just need to get my hands on a demo

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
17 Nov 2009 10:05AM
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If you dont mind to travel, and love riding butter flat watter in most conditions come across to whyalla, should be able to arange a demo for you.

leeton
VIC, 15 posts
18 Nov 2009 9:26AM
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Sounds awesome, i do have to work in SA from time to time, if i haven't all ready tested one out, next time i'm there i will let you know

Stu101
131 posts
19 Nov 2009 3:22AM
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Been out my fifty 50 last couple days now and starting to love it. It's very Fast though and can run away with me when using my 12m in powered conditions. Few times have gone too fast and had to go airborne or turn real quick to stop myself running out of control. Not as controlable as the nhp I might add but kind of adds a bit more excitement to the board. Apart from that it rocks. Have got my cabrinah syncs fitted to it now which are a little better than the nobile ones well at least the straps are! The sync foot beds ain't quite as comfy and it's a shame you can't put the sync pads on the nobile footbeds like you can with other makes. Wen will nobile make some decent backless bindings which are getting ever more popular? Hope they do soon.
As for the fifty 50 awesome bit of kit.
There is definitly more rocker in the nhp I think or at least feels that way. Nhp feels slightly more solid when riding and slightly slower board I think but that's probably to do with the extra width?

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
19 Nov 2009 9:47AM
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See if you can get some boots to try out, since i put them on mine ive only changed back to pads once and only rode for a session then put the boots back on. Im hooked on the extra grip, pop speed and power that you get when ridding with boots. You dont seem to worry about the board as much because it just does exactly what you want. I dont think i will be changing back any time soon.

fozzy
SA, 501 posts
19 Nov 2009 10:41AM
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Now that you've got some boots all you need is a decent board to put them on. Haha.

Stu101
131 posts
19 Nov 2009 11:04AM
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So what do you ride then fozzy?

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
19 Nov 2009 1:54PM
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fozzy said...

Now that you've got some boots all you need is a decent board to put them on. Haha.




I have tryed a few boards with my boots PB Floyds, and a lot of them werent that good the fifty 50 is by far the best board i have ever ridden as it can be ridden with straps or boots. with straps the board doesnt feel to big and with boots it is perfect. What other board gives you that option, without compromise.

Plus it is light, and has a 3 year waranty!


So which board are you talking about, is there any good reviews on them that i can read up on?

fozzy
SA, 501 posts
19 Nov 2009 4:49PM
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Bossstyle said...

So what do you ride then fozzy?


Settle down ladies.

I currently ride an 09 Concept Grind with Unions but the new setup will hopefully be here soon.

waxman said...
I have tryed a few boards with my boots PB Floyds, and a lot of them werent that good the fifty 50 is by far the best board i have ever ridden as it can be ridden with straps or boots. with straps the board doesnt feel to big and with boots it is perfect. What other board gives you that option, without compromise.

Plus it is light, and has a 3 year waranty!



So which board are you talking about, is there any good reviews on them that i can read up on?


It really is all a little too easy to get a bite around here isn't it. Alright, are there any better boards for boots? Well yes in my opinion. LF have the Concept and Influence which IMO leave this board for dead. Of course there's the Cab Custom as well. Any board that is made to be ridden in boots is capable of being ridden in straps, but the reverse is not the case.

The board you can't seem to write enough about is ridiculously flexy (which is good if all you want to do is jibb and press the hell out of it) but rubbish for loading and popping. And that "corrugated iron" bottom leaves very little to be desired. Concaves are one thing but I'm not sure what that is.

Now all those that have never put a set of boots on their feet can all hit the red thumb button and tell themselves "that'll show him." Haha.

**Edit**
Should mention before the more sensitive ones out there get upset, I'm not having a crack at all Nobile boards, haven't checked enough of them to even comment. I am specifically referring to this board and boots.

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
19 Nov 2009 6:05PM
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The corrigation in the board is a good way to make the board stiff where you need it and flex where you dont and save a **** load of weight. If you have ever picked one of these boards up you will notice that it seems to flex easily, but compare it to a piece of coricated iron that also flexes easily, but only a little bit you try to bend it past that point and it will just lock up or crease unlike the nobile board that will just hold that ridgid shape. when the board is fully loaded up it holds a fully ridgid shape that has a rocker comparable to a wake board giving maximum pop, and unlike the cabrina and lf boards it is nice to ride has a verry forgiving landing and goes up wind efortlesly powers through chop etc.

Can you still claim your stiff wake style boards can do this. I do agree that there are other good boards for boots but not one that can handle the range of conditions and different ridding styles that the nobile fifty 50 can. You should give one a go, I think you would be verry suprised.

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
19 Nov 2009 7:16PM
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flexy board = less pop. simple

fozzy
SA, 501 posts
19 Nov 2009 8:33PM
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Haha, unlike LF and Cab which aren't nice to ride. Good grief. Yeah what would LF know, they've only been producing wakeboards for like 20 yrs.

There are a number of points I could go on with, like the fact the "corrugations" run the entire length of the board but magically provide stiffness where you need it and flex where you don't. Christ they have made a break through. But I can already see that we will continue with this banter and end up back where we started.

So in conclusion, yes I can claim what you ask.

Enjoy your sheet of fencing iron.

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
19 Nov 2009 8:38PM
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stamp said...

flexy board = less pop. simple


maby you not read good......

but board not flex when pop very stiff when loaded up.

it is not a stomp and pop type board but more load and pop. Most boards pop better when you do this anyway so maby give it a try. There are good videos that can help you with your technique if you dont know the difference.

The nobile boards have a lot of new tecnoligy in them and like most new things there will be people that wont try them and critisize them regardless untill there prefered company starts using the tecnoligy and then claim there the first ones to do it. So dont worry in a few years time you may just be ridding a board that is as good as a nobile.

If you want to start a thread on which TT board is the best Feel free but I dont think that a topic titled -Nobile fifty 50 review, is the place to do it unless you have actually tryed it and can put forward some usefull advice, for others to read.


waxman
SA, 1390 posts
19 Nov 2009 8:46PM
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fozzy said...

Haha, unlike LF and Cab which aren't nice to ride. Good grief. Yeah what would LF know, they've only been producing wakeboards for like 20 yrs.

There are a number of points I could go on with, like the fact the "corrugations" run the entire length of the board but magically provide stiffness where you need it and flex where you don't. Christ they have made a break through. But I can already see that we will continue with this banter and end up back where we started.

So in conclusion, yes I can claim what you ask.

Enjoy your sheet of fencing iron.


Im not saying that LF make a bad board, but i dont think they are as versitile as nobile boards. Thats the point im trying to make.

loverboy
WA, 614 posts
20 Nov 2009 5:42AM
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Waxman VS Fozzy....coming to the next SA kiting event- settle it on the water boys !

murf
SA, 478 posts
20 Nov 2009 9:23AM
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I know who my money is on!!! FOZZY!!!

Dave Salz
SA, 27 posts
20 Nov 2009 10:01AM
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Its a pity ego's play such a big part in this sport...
There are always going to be different brands and choices on the market but why does it have to get to this... what's good for one person, doesn't necessarily mean the other will agree!
It also amazes me how people are experts on a piece of equipment when they haven't even tried it!!!
Remember also that the review as Waxman said is on the 50 Fifty, why not ride it and make a constructive comment...

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
20 Nov 2009 11:03AM
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loverboy said...

Waxman VS Fozzy....coming to the next SA kiting event- settle it on the water boys !


Bring it on, Boots and low kites powered up. cant wait

To be fair Fozzy we will have to switch boards for a bit if you wanted to try the fifty 50 for yourself..Ive tryed LF boards with straps would love to give one a go with boots.

fozzy
SA, 501 posts
20 Nov 2009 2:52PM
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Yeah, no worries on the mano a mano action. Pistols at sunrise and all that.

But no thanks on the swapping boards, I'll stick to being "an expert on equipment without even trying it."

Fozzy and his ego - out!

Nobile
SA, 42 posts
21 Nov 2009 11:51AM
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waxman said...



Bad Points:With no grab handle(its a good thing it doesnt need one), the board is a slippery little sucker which has you grabbing the straps or boots to carry it which isnt allways easy, i think the board just needs some little gripps on the side in the middle like last years 666 to make it easyer to hold. just some little ribs or a 3d molding like the skim. If Nobile come to grips with this it will be 10/10 next year.




It has been done... Ask and you shall receive...





murf
SA, 478 posts
21 Nov 2009 11:56AM
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Now thats cool! Does it come in pink?

Nobile
SA, 42 posts
21 Nov 2009 12:04PM
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murf said...

Now thats cool! Does it come in pink?


Maybe... If you ask nicely!!!

murf
SA, 478 posts
21 Nov 2009 12:23PM
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Sweet!



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