Look Im not trying to start a forum on what you can handle on your kite i am just giving you my opinion on what i have found but i may need to clarify some points.
Kite:Bandit 3 13m depowered 1 knot
Board:Nobile 50 fifty 140cm
Rider:95kgs/Experienced
Conditions:25/30kts ssw Dead flat water
Experience:Found the kite comfortable enougth to ride soaked the gusts up well, at no stage did i ever feel like i was overpowered could steel get a good edge and fly up wind. Steel felt comfortable to do hooked in tricks and some big jumps.
Recomendations: I really like to ride kites that are lit and the 13m in this session was definatly lit, so i had a blast. But i wouldnt recomend that people use the 13m in these conditions unless verry experienced. Some parts of the sesion i had the kite fully depowered which doesnt leave any room for mistakes, or increase in wind speed, which is a dangerous situation to be in. personally i would normally use a 9m but i do like to test the new gear out to see what its got just incase one day you get caught out. At least you will knnow what youre up fore.
Mattress, sorry to disapoint you but no unhooking in 30 kts you must have misread but did have it out today in 20-25kts testing the new nobile 50 fifty board with some ss PB floyd boots and was unhooking and i can tell you now the thing was out of controll unhooking in boots on a 13m in that wind was insane i liked it but wouldnt recomend it.
Spot1, Getting rid of the old 7.5m. Thats going to be one hard kite to replace. seriously the 7.5 bandit is one of those freak kites that have a great bottom end and i never found the top end. I would keep it, but if you want to change to a B3 try the 8 & 9m both would be fine to replace the old 7.5 but dont expect it to be like the old 7.5 because the B3 feels like a whole new kite. the recomended wind range for the 8m is 18-38kts 9m 15-30kts 7m 24kts+
Addikt,You are quit right the 13m wouldnt suit you for a one kit quiver unless you are over 110kgs. I would recomend you try the 10 or 11m, these kites are a lot smoother than the Dos and have a larger wind range. Just remember that you can adjust the centre line to get a higher top end it does make a hell of a differance and can change it from a willd ride to a mild ride.The recomended wind range for the 10m is 12-28kts and the 11m is 11-24kts based on a regular sized rider around 75kgs.
Thanks Waxman,
I guess the 11 on the second or third knot might be the go for the 25 -28 knots and last knot for the 11 – 15 knot days, decisions…. decisions………..?
PS anyone know where I can get a diamond swapped out of a ring………..must be a convincing job ;) I know this “guy” who needs some extra cash ;)[}:)][}:)]
The 11m would be fine on the second,or third knot in 28kts for your weight, the kite is still really smooth in the topend even when gusty you dont get the strong yanking like on the dos, you can just sheet out a bit and stomp the back foot and the kite races forward and slows down. The b3 actualy sits further forward in the window and is slightly higher aspect which gives it the higher top end and smoother ride.
diamond swaping? sounds more dangerous than 50+kts.[}:)]
Good news you can get the kite $50 cheaper without the pump.
Just had a nother great session on the 9m bandit wind was a bit gusty 18-28kts but seriously hardly even noticed on the B3, i had only one inch of depower on the whole session and was unhooking and doing some of the biggest railys i have ever done. This is one awsome kite to unhook on and hooking back in is so fast and easy. I am really loving it at the moment![]()
Sorry for comming accross a bit harsh but all of the things you described about the kite are way off the mark, I have been ridding them for quit a while now and if that is what you found after one ride i would sujest that you grab another one and give it a real ride. Then write a real review.
I've had a few sessions now on my B3's and I can honestly say they handle gusts better than the Dos. The turning on the B3 is in no way delayed and erratic, and in fact they turn really smooth and fast if you hold the bar in when flying the kite.
Letting the bar out all the way will make the kite fly more eratic and delayed as you have less pressure on the rear lines.
I had my 10m out today in Moderate winds. Was trying a few new tricks and had many stacks. I was really impressed with the way the kite wanted to stay in the air. after a few hard crashes I was able to surface, grab my board and get my feet in the straps well before the kite hit the water. On a couple of occasions the kite just sat at 12 O'clock and waited.![]()
I have flagged the kite and it wants to float to twelve then slowly fall out was great you could real it in and hook in drop the safety line before it hit the water. verry cool may not need to run the sui leash![]()
Was wondering if there were any melbourne based people who could help me trace down a B3 for Sat 21/11/09 so i could have a look at it! Anyone?...pls? Coming all the way down from Mackay!
Here is a list of retailers.
www.m8kite.com/?c=2
May pay to give this mob a call.
www.shq.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=45
Hope you find one to try out. Sweet kites![]()
Check out the bandit 3 site!
www.bandit3.com/
Man these guys have some balls testing the 9m from 10-50kts just to get the best top end they could....but they dont recomend trying it.[}:)]
Alexandre Caizergues - Kitespeed World Record - November 14th 2009
Was just wondering if anyone else has noticed any rust in the new style fone pully, They are a white pully with a fone stamped on them. They are not on every kite i have only seen 2 kites with these pullys on them. But i checked mine the other day and where the pins go through the plastic there was a lot of rust and the plastic is badly discoloured. Im a bit worried if it is rusting badly it will expand the pin and probably crack the plastic, which wouldnt be good as its part of the safety system.
They have the 11m b3 wind range from 11 to 24kts. I havent tryed a 11m yet but on all the other sizes i have flown i have found the top end a little conservative and have had my 13m out in more than that. Try this mob should be able to get them. www.surfsailaustralia.com.au/
There are some other distributors listed on the m8 website
www.m8kite.com/?c=2
Hope this helps
Unfortunatly not a team ridder for FONE
not quit got the skills for that, but i am a team ridder for a shop but dont work for them, i dont get anything from offering advice on kites on seabreeze i just enjoy being helpfull and answering any questions asked about the product to try and help people out. The only bonus i get from being a team ridder is that i get to test a lot of different kites and boards in a lot of different sizes, and after testing them all, i still like the bandit the most it really suits my style of ridding. There are a lot of people that have ridden them and dont like them as much as there cabs,nemis or octanes as they are really smooth kites compared to the bandits.i have been ridding a combination of bandits and revs over the last 3 years but this year i am down to just the one rev 15m for those light wind skim board days and 2 bandits i would change over the 15m as well but cant aford it at the moment. And as far as next year who knows i may be ridding c kites again flexi foil or fuels just depends what i want from my ridding at the time. but fairly happy with the bandit 3 at the moment, they are a lot nicer kite than the bandit dos.