I don't think I said I didn't like it. I just said I found it relatively underpowered for it's size and compared to a fairly well known kite I used as a benchmark (Cab SB2 8m. My mate is a beginner so I demonstrated water starting a few times as well as popping off a few jumps, down-turn air gybes and spraying him in the face with some heel-side carves ... as you do when you are teaching a mate.
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Certainly the cruising around on the Edge RX with my big TT was a beautifully luxurious feeling. Smooth as silk.
It's reasonable to suggest my technique is at fault, but I really did try all the things the guys suggested. I don't want to blow my own horn but I am really really good at riding in light wind and getting the maximum power out of underpowered kites. It's possibly the only thing I am good at. The winds weren't light.
I may have been doing something wrong but if I am doing it wrong then others will too and it's got to be something really weird.
I don't think anyone in this thread is getting upset because of Gorgo's comments. I think it is more a case that it goes against the experience of the majority of other users and they are trying to figure out why. It may just be that Gorgo and this kite are not made for each other or it may be something technical. The only way to find out is to get someone who knows the kite to rig it, take it out and then hand it over to Gorgo for a ride. Part of the fun of this sport for me is trying different kites and thinking about the differences.
The new EDGE RX is a pig word around the traps is the kite has gone backwards from previous years.I have seen heaps of ozone riders give it the thumbs down.
Gorgo speaks the truth and he gets hammered by the people that have a vested interest in the kite.The edge 07 and 08 were great kites but the RX is no where near as good.Sorry ozone but the RX sucks.
Lots of credibility there Mr 1 negetive post wonder. Create a login and slam a kite as your first post.
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Only speaking the truth you must also have a vested interest in the kite do you sell them.The new sport is a nice kite but the RX sucks sorry mate no offence ozone stuffed a great kite up.
We rode it back to back with the switchblade and the switchblade **** all over it and we had the 11RX and a 10Switchie the 10 switch had a much better bottom end and the jumps were bigger on the switch the RX lacked bottom end and the boosting was nothing like last years edge or the 07 edge.Im not slagging the kite just speaking the truth.
I just visited the Ozone web site and they have added a wind range chart.
The fragment below shows the 11m being "well powered up" in 11-21 and "perfectly powered up" from 22 knots.
If you interpret that as being ridable up to about 20 knots but going big above 22 knots then that would make sense in terms of what I experienced. ie. It takes a fair bit of wind to get it really going.
Cabrinha say the SB 8m is powered up from about 18 knots and the Cabrinha range is pretty grunty in general.
I'm guessing you need to go a size up with the Edge RX to get the right size compared to other kites.
I would disagree with the windchart and say that no-ne of average weight will be well powered on an Edge RX in 11 knots.
However on Tuesday evening in Sydney, I went out for a kite is gusterly southerly at Dolls Point.
Wind was averaging 13/14 -20/22 knots, with approx 2-3 knots of opposing current in parts of the river.
I was riding the stock standard demo 2009 Edge RX 11M.
Rear line trimmers about 1/2 on.
At first I went out on a Calibre 1.33x40, was able to go upwind, but it was not much good in the lulls and I did not want to end up around the groin in no mans land, so I swapped boards.
Then I grabbed my Airush switch 1.46x46 and I was riding well powered to lit, and was able to get some excellent jumps.
Another rider was out ona Flexifoil Ion3 12M, he weighs 30kg more than me and was on an Underground FLX 1.52x42, he was able to go upwind get ok jump in the gusts, but I was able to ride way upwind of him and overall had plenty more power.
So, I guess I'm sticking to my opinion that its techinique and my experience that night really confirmed that. The kite was a little stally when bar was pulled all the way in, but I would immediately let the bar out a bit if I saw that the kite was oversheeting, however when I was powered in the gusts, I needed to hold the bar in to get power, upwind and to turn tight and fast to get the kite to jump.
@ Lonerider, your idea of the truth and the TRUTH are widely different things, your idea of it is just your opinion actually, and thats the truth mate! ![]()
Some people say the exact opposite as you say, but I don't call them liars, I just respect their opinion and suggest that they may need to ride differently or that the other kite just does not suit their style.
Cya and
Goodwinds
Steve
LOL the famous Steve from kitepower mate its just my opinion and its shared by alot of other people.Your shop in Queensland is great was in there the other day the englishman was a pleasure to deal with and I will be back next week to order the 2008 edge its a great deal with 20 percent off and its a better kite than the new RX and those prices f##K me I will have to rob a bank to have a 2009 kite or beg the Mrs for weeks on end.
Keep up the good work with the new shop Thelonerider was extremely happy.Should be in Sydney soon so I will pop in and say hello.
Thelonerider
Yeh kite companies always end up F###king up a great kite.
Naish x2 was great the x3 was one of the worst kites released it looks like they have learnt their lesson and have not ruined the torch yet.
North 2006 vegas awesome kite, 2007 was a failure as was the North Rhino.
Edge Rx not as good as previous edges.
Slingshot link probably this baby takes the cake a hopless piece a heavy **** that fell out of the sky and jelly fished.
North 2009 rebel folds in the middle due to no middle strut 08 was a better kite.
Cabrinha revolver seven strut wave kite what were they thinking.
They are just to name a few and the list goes on.When are kite companies going to learn and not release crap and expect us to pay top dollar for dud kites.
Thelonerider
I rode the kite in question in waves in 20-30kn today.
I ride and love my E2 9m so much I'm keeping it forever, but that's a different story.
This kite feels like the edge im used to, boosts and does everything else the old kite does.
The throw on the bar is less, depower possibly less but hard to tell, it doesn't matter.
She get's up there alright, and doesn't mind looping down the line. (even thou "apparently" it's not made for waves)
Damn good kite, easier setup than last years, no pulleys, and ozones attention to not selling stuff that will kill you due to a basic engineering oversight. (Imagine if the LINK was a paraglider?)
I'm used to the edge's thou, high aspect, likes a little trim trim with the bar, a bit more front foot when your dogging perhaps than other kites. It's just something you get used to I guess. I got on it and loved it but I'm used to this style of kite.
It's a friggin good ride.
Fair comment Steve but have you ever jumped on a kite and it felt F###KEN unbelieveable and you just wanted one straight away that is what I look for when I demo kites and buy them.I know some kites take longer to dial in but when that happens you know your on something special and the kite makes you feel that comfortable that it makes you want to try things straight away.
Thelonerider
I still don't get the under powered comments .....I was out on my 11m in maybe 15knots max yesterday. I am would be 100kgs + wet, and i was staying upwind no sweat, pulling a few backrolls and small jumps. I was riding a 145 x 40 nobile 555. I can tell you for sure that i am getting more bottom end power out of my 09 than i got out of my 08 kite. In good conditions it boosts huge with excellent hang time. Steve has nailed when he says you have to fly these kites fast. They are a high aspect kite. If you fly them the way the designer intended you will be rewarded with huge air and hang time and great wave performance. It does take some time to learn how to get the most out of these kites the same could be said for the 08's but once you get it sorted you would be hard pressed to want to go to any other kite. I like my 09 way better than my 08.
ozonekites.com/water
There are 3 good videos on that page but the one that is the most informative in relation to this thread is the interview with the Ozone 2009 Instinct designer Robbie Whitall.
Its the first video.
Cya and
Goodwinds
Steve
Thats why they stopped making them what you need in the waves is a light kite that drifts nicely down the line.The ozone light 2009 model is a nice kite for this super light and it drifts like no other kite.Had a go on this kite a couple of days ago and I rate it highly.
The revolver was to heavy it was a pig in the waves.The switchie was a better kite than the Revolver for wave riding.
Thelonerider
Had a nice sess today in 25 tp 35 knots my new kite handled like a dream soaked up the gusts, big boosts still a very smooth ride you gotta pump up to at least 10.5 psi. nice high floaty backrolls but still haven't figured out here to loop it like Tama yet, though It is fun trying. It did fold when relaunching through the window. Came back in and pumped up somemore and was a little more gentle when relaunching the problem didn't come back. I love this kite.