So does that mean that all of the guys riding high aspect race-style kites in WA have no idea how to jump then? because not once have i seen a powered edge out jump a lit up c-kite as far as height goes.
Never.
Not once.
Maybe put in a call to Ruben Lenten and tell him he's got it all wrong 
Same sized kite, same rider, same board, same winds the c kite will rip you higher. Depends on your definition of jumping I suppose. High aspect kite gives you that glide, the hang time although that can be markedly improved on a c kite if you have the balls to pull the loop trigger...
...let's face it jumping in light to meduim winds is naf anyway...
That's what I mean eppo. Floaty hangtime (mostly downwind) vs a vertical high jump (with horizontal option when desired and looping).
@rcr46401: mate I am not skinny, I am just lean and not very tall 
I am flying a 6m kite in 40 knots winterlies, no problem. Just boosting high. Probably being able to handle a fast moving kite which indeed develops its power when flying across the window enables one being more experienced with regards to what happens if the kite is moved, intentionally or by mistake. Bit like a sports car vs a truck, more dangerous but more fun. But some prefer the Hummer.
I am not implying you don't know how to fly Edges etc and I appreciate you may need that extra power to really have fun. Luckily this sport is about what the rider likes and not what others think of it. It is just that most of those I see around here would probably be better off (and jumping higher if this is what they are after) on a slightly smaller high performance kite than purely edging hard for two hours trying to be in control of a monster kite and expecting all others getting out of their way as a) they cannot change direction quickly and b) they need all the space the spot offer to do their long distance floaty "jumps".
@plummet: I hear you. Impressive that you can go higher with the Edge vs the C4. I am sure a few others I see on both have it the other way around. But if you can edge and load the Edge properly and throw it as you can with the C4 ok. Glad you agree on the higher winds as this is what we were mostly referring to.
Again, this is not for those capable and experienced heavy riders who don't have a choice. I understand the gravity issue.
I have a crispy Zephyr that will hopefully make its maiden flight today.
I demoed ages ago (rcr's kite actually) and it didn't excite me enough at the time. Several months later I'm sick of watching people have more fun on their Zephyr than me on an 11m. I think I'll step off the Zephyr and onto a 10m personally.
In 15-17 knots when I can happily go up wind and jump on the 11m edge, others are doing RELATIVELY high floaty jumps on Zephyrs. I needed to adjust my expectations of light wind kiting and suspect many others the same. Enjoy the contrast from 15 knot zephyr session to 6m 35 knot boostathon.
As for the hight jack topic, C kite goes bigger than edge for me. I bought one to be sure. No way could I get edge to jump as high or aggressively as C4, hangtime of course edge wins so depends what you're after. I like being ripped off the water hard, high and fast. I don't expect Zephyr to do this. Plan on using it as a training kite for things I'm not keen on learning in higher winds + it gets you out there when you wouldn't otherwise
Yeh EJ exactly on the C kite and your use for the zephyr.
Actually I'm considering selling mine but for a weird reason to most.
I actually need to cut back my water time!! The zephyr creates way too much temptation and way too many sessions and I just gotta spend more time with the kids. Sounds weird right...but it's true.
Not driven by the wife, driven by a dad whose on the water waaaaay too much....and the body after 14 seasons is starting to fall apart!!!
..literally.
Gonna fcken kill me to sell it though!
well boys i can jump higher on the c4 when the wind is up.... but the statement was mooted that a smaller c kite would out jump a bigger kite like an edge or zep in light 20 knots. To that i say boolarks, the high aspect big kites rule the light wind.
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Yeh EJ exactly on the C kite and your use for the zephyr.
Actually I'm considering selling mine but for a weird reason to most.
I actually need to cut back my water time!! The zephyr creates way too much temptation and way too many sessions and I just gotta spend more time with the kids. Sounds weird right...but it's true.
Not driven by the wife, driven by a dad whose on the water waaaaay too much....and the body after 14 seasons is starting to fall apart!!!..literally.
Gonna fcken kill me to sell it though!
Its fortunate kites dont have feelings Eppo.. you dump them when you dont like them, you dump them because you love them too much! I had a girlfiend like that once... haha
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Iteppo said..
Yeh EJ exactly on the C kite and your use for the zephyr.
Actually I'm considering selling mine but for a weird reason to most.
I actually need to cut back my water time!! The zephyr creates way too much temptation and way too many sessions and I just gotta spend more time with the kids. Sounds weird right...but it's true.
Not driven by the wife, driven by a dad whose on the water waaaaay too much....and the body after 14 seasons is starting to fall apart!!!..literally.
Gonna fcken kill me to sell it though!
Its fortunate kites dont have feelings Eppo.. you dump them when you dont like them, you dump them because you love them too much! I had a girlfiend like that once... haha
Eppo has 6 wives and interchanges them depending on mood
Select to expand quotecauncy said...Dave Whettingsteel said...
Iteppo said..
Yeh EJ exactly on the C kite and your use for the zephyr.
Actually I'm considering selling mine but for a weird reason to most.
I actually need to cut back my water time!! The zephyr creates way too much temptation and way too many sessions and I just gotta spend more time with the kids. Sounds weird right...but it's true.
Not driven by the wife, driven by a dad whose on the water waaaaay too much....and the body after 14 seasons is starting to fall apart!!!..literally.
Gonna fcken kill me to sell it though!
Its fortunate kites dont have feelings Eppo.. you dump them when you dont like them, you dump them because you love them too much! I had a girlfiend like that once... haha
Eppo has 6 wives and interchanges them depending on mood
Well having met the lovely Mrs Eppo, she does not strike me as someone who would be tolerant of polygamy, therefore we must assume she could only survive by having multiple personalities! True Eppo?
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Actually I'm considering selling mine but for a weird reason to most.
I actually need to cut back my water time!! The zephyr creates way too much temptation and way too many sessions and I just gotta spend more time with the kids. Sounds weird right...but it's true.
Not driven by the wife, driven by a dad whose on the water waaaaay too much....and the body after 14 seasons is starting to fall apart!!!..literally.
Gonna fcken kill me to sell it though!
What a crock of s*** Eppo , do you seriously think that selling the kite will solve the problem ?
It's the management of the addiction which is the problem not the kite. I can guarantee you would still be at the beach making excuses to hit the water or will buy another kite to fill the gap . You will have to re think the solution I reckon.
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Dave you need a kite man!! Lol....
Well true enough. The hunchback of Horrocks is not happy!
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Great to see all the support from my buddies. Lol
Hmmmmm I got your back Eppo
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Great to see all the support from my buddies. Lol
Hmmmmm I got your back Eppo
It'll be right Eppo. You just need to be troughed out and you'll feel like you are the best father in the world in no time.
Hey freeze boy where ya bin man, got a bunch of posts in without ya...get back on ya game mate come on!
Ta Eddie. You getting any wind up there?
Yeah mate. Check out our forecast. Can't seem to copy and paste it on ipad.
Good session today but wind a bit choppy. Waves starting to build to a decent size. Kiting in rain - bit cold actually. Hard to believe I know. It got to 25 degrees.
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Yeah mate. Check out our forecast. Can't seem to copy and paste it on ipad.
Good session today but wind a bit choppy. Waves starting to build to a decent size. Kiting in rain - bit cold actually. Hard to believe I know. It got to 25 degrees.
So perfect for the zephyr Eddie ? Bet you're pleased you haven't sold yours!
Sorry Eppo, but ya gotta laugh!..:)
Yeah Dave - got out on the zephyr I bought on seabreeze.
Go it cheap from a bloke who was having life balance issues
Mates keeping it real...love you guys
xxxx
As someone said early on there is plenty of thoughts on this kite in earlier posts.
Can't speak more highly of this wing and there is a reason you don't see them for sale on sea breeze often.... 
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Hey freeze boy where ya bin man, got a bunch of posts in without ya...get back on ya game mate come on!
Ta Eddie. You getting any wind up there?
Hmmmmm, enjoying sub zero temps in northern Europe.
Resuming my surveillance and critiquing of yours and other posts henceforth.
If anyone has the latest zephyer they would like to unload at a decent price please sms me cheers
Although I don't actually own the new Zephyr I'm fortunate enough to have several kiting buddies who do. Up here in the NW where the wind is more often than not in the flaky 8-13kt range I've recently taken it out for a wrap.
Bar pressure and pull is sweet and smooth. There's plenty pull for airs and transitions and strapless dick tricks. Bottom end is strong too. Heck, she's a big old kite but she turns more like other 12s or 13s. However, if she goes down at 8kts she's not getting back up. She's a light wind machine and I'd rate her as the best in her class but at the end of the day. . . .17m is 17m!!!
If I had the loot, I'd own one.
I'm 85kgs, ride a strapless FW sweet potato in light wind and started kiting in '99 on a sketchy 2 line Naish kite with funky skull and cross bones.
My two bits.
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Big eeeZeee said..
I'm just sick of hearing and seeing people out on oversized kites in conditions thy don't warrant it. I don't care if you're 100kg. A 17m kite in 20 odd knots could own your ass if **** goes wrong... That is all. Whatever
his name is Terron, he is 110kg and he rides his zephyr as his only kite, from 16/17 - 28/30 knots comfortably, lots of locals know him.
Well at least I know never to buy a wind meter off you bro, 30kts + 17m, comfy in sydney? whatever dude
I'll have what you're smokin'
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Mates keeping it real...love you guys xxxx
As someone said early on there is plenty of thoughts on this kite in earlier posts.
Can't speak more highly of this wing and there is a reason you don't see them for sale on sea breeze often....
so you better buy these now, 'cause this will never ever happen ever again
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~t-vjx/2014-Ozone-Zephyr-17-metre.aspx?search=yxrOHND3sv5i1uVgx93bGDQm90JMviyvHfV3d44bbB8!WAtJxwNxqQ==
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Kites/~ta9yq/2010-Ozone-Zephyr-17-metre.aspx?search=yxrOHND3sv5i1uVgx93bGDQm90JMviyvHfV3d44bbB8!WAtJxwNxqQ==
pattiecannon - might want to check a few things before firing one across the bow. The first link is for a 2010 Zephyr, big difference between a 2010 and 2013.
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pattiecannon - might want to check a few things before firing one across the bow. The first link is for a 2010 Zephyr, big difference between a 2010 and 2013.
most people read from the top of a list but since you're reading from the bottom check the second one....
