Intermediate rider. Old board was a Nobile T5, just got the 2015 Axis Limited carbon.
Two sessions on it both in fairly choppy water of 20 - 40cm. Found the tail would often slide out just as i'd load it up to do a move / pop.
Need to measure the fins tomorrow. I think they are 40mm. Positioned bindings almost in the centre of the horizontal i.e toe vs heelside edge.
Its slightly bigger than my last board 140 x 43 but i weigh 94kgs. Mate reckons because of extra surface area i wont be sinking as much as i use to on my old board and therefore not digging in as much of the board's rail to help with edging...?
Im wondering if:
1. I need to just get use to it some more
2. Dont take it in such big chop
3. Get bigger fins
4. Mount bindings closer to heelside edge.
Thoughts?
Size is a tad on the big side for your weight, but wind strength and kite size can be contributing , but only on the overpowered side of things, widest setting and open stance maximises edging ability, 50mm fins are standard on my board ,my alkita board however is a totally different board, spins around with the slightest input , very scatey feel , a decent outline , and sharper rails is more noticeable in my shinns, it's pretty standard getting used to the feel of a new board inc pad and straps, if you still have your old pads n straps put them on and feel how the board feels as this I've found can mask over how it feels initially, Adrian at axis makes a very good product ,
Yeah set at widest stance but i could try my old bindings or repositioning them closer to the heal side rail.
I guess i just gotta learn to lean more on the back foot and really dig the edge in before releasing the pop with this board...
Try loading with a little more weight on your back foot, or even better remove the fins and get the right technique and put them back. 40mm is fine.
Keep your bindings centered it'll only train poor habits.
Select to expand quotecauncy said...
Cauncy, you must walk like a duck with that amount of toe out!
What's the dimensions of your last board.
A winder board will be harder to hold power. Carbon will make it stiff which could make it worse in chop.
The easy fix is to fit some big fins.
Also you may need to weight the rear of the board more with this one.
Select to expand quotecauncy said..
Size is a tad on the big side for your weight,
please, that's a perfect size. im 75kg and ride 141 with ease. you just need to get use to your board man.
Select to expand quotePlummet said..
What's the dimensions of your last board.
A winder board will be harder to hold power. Carbon will make it stiff which could make it worse in chop.
The easy fix is to fit some big fins.
Also you may need to weight the rear of the board more with this one.
137 x 42 old board, INobile has 55mm fins vs 40mm fins on the Axis. Chop performance is ok so far. I bought it knowing there are other freeride boards better suited to chop but didn't expect it to be this loose.
I'd like to give it a go in the conditions it was designed for i.e. flatter water...
Select to expand quoteMacster said..
Found the tail would often slide out just as i'd load it up to do a move / pop.
Hi Macster
If the tail is sliding out, it sounds like you are pushing the tail sideways rather than edging and popping properly.
As Nick T says try it without fins and get the correct technique dialled.
40mm fins are huge but can mask a poor technique. With a bad technique, large fins will allow you to ride the board flatter, when you should be riding it more on its rail. Small fins, or taking them off, will force you to edge the board properly, improving your technique, and then when you pop you will be popping off the edge rather than just pushing the tail sideways.Select to expand quoteMacster said..
Positioned bindings almost in the centre of the horizontal i.e toe vs heelside edge.
Yeah leave them in the centre, but a wider stance may help.Select to expand quoteMacster said..
Its slightly bigger than my last board 140 x 43 but i weigh 94kgs.
It doesn't sound to big to me. Im not familiar with the axis Limited, but I use an Axis Billy and thats 139X 42.5 and I weigh 78KG. BTW I use 18mm fins.Select to expand quoteMacster said..
Im wondering if:
1. I need to just get use to it some more
2. Dont take it in such big chop
3. Get bigger fins
4. Mount bindings closer to heelside edge.
Thoughts?
Sound like you just need to get used to the board, if you have only been out twice on it, try a bit more time with it on the water.
Select to expand quotejuicerider said..
As Nick T says try it without fins and get the correct technique dialled.
Couldn't agree more, so many people can't edge properly simply because they are used to having massive fins,
once you are edging properly the main thing fins will do is help you land fast jumps, everything else should feel pretty similar
I have ridden no fins, 7mm, 10mm, 15mm and 25mm fins on a variety of boards and now stick to 7mm for flat and 10/15 for chop.
Thanks guys. There's obviously room to improve my technique. I have however ridden several times without fins on my Nobile including a session under the Golden gate bridge in San Fran and I could still hold an edge and do jumps etc.
Maybe I have been spoiled by my old and smaller board and developed bad habits!
Select to expand quoteNickT said...cauncy said...
Cauncy, you must walk like a duck with that amount of toe out!
I'm a bit quackers
Select to expand quotekemp90 said...cauncy said..
Size is a tad on the big side for your weight,
please, that's a perfect size. im 75kg and ride 141 with ease. you just need to get use to your board man.
Around your area possibly, here that's a lightwind board, also if your riding a completely different board rocker wise then that's of no use, tad means slightly, not many brands I know of recommend a freeride board at 140 for a 75kg rider
Select to expand quotePlummet said..
if you still have the old board slap those 55mm fins on and give it a go
Yeah for sure, do this if you have no desire to ever get better at kiteboarding
Select to expand quotePlummet said..
if you still have the old board slap those 55mm fins on and give it a go
I also like to pretend being a train
