I have learnt kiting this winter on the east coast (gusty westerlies) **** winds but having fun by myself. Yesterday in extreme gusty conditions kite did the hindenburg acouple of times. 1.Now whats the termonology for when the kite rolls inside itself does the full turn (after hindenburg, kite on the water), 2.ways to avoid this other than just experience 3. Will the kite launch and fly enough to get you out of trouble with a single turn in each powerline with its corresponding steer line?. You know what I mean ey
I think that's called inverting your kite.
Some kites will fly well enough to get you back to the beach, others probably not.
It can't always be avoided but you're best to pump your kite up harder, and not ride in wind that is so stop, start and or shifting directions.
The other thing you can do is redirect your kite earlier when jumping so that you don't swing under it.
Yep cool thanks this is a great site for information would liked to be on here months ago. Seeing hows I bought the gear at the start of winter and am keen to progress I been kiting very unreliable winds because you cant beat experience good or bad I reckon. HHavelooked like the full kook many times now though!
Soon enough you're gonna get the nanna safety speech on here but before you do I'll just say keep up the good work... When the nthlys kick next month u won't believe how easy it will be after the crap you've put yourself through... Make sure you watch some you tube vids on how to work your particular kites quick release systems, practice it once or twice then go hard son.... Yew!
Select to expand quotedjt91184 said..
I have learnt kiting this winter on the east coast (gusty westerlies) **** winds but having fun by myself. Yesterday in extreme gusty conditions kite did the hindenburg acouple of times. 1.Now whats the termonology for when the kite rolls inside itself does the full turn (after hindenburg, kite on the water), 2.ways to avoid this other than just experience 3. Will the kite launch and fly enough to get you out of trouble with a single turn in each powerline with its corresponding steer line?. You know what I mean ey
Yep, it's called 'inverting'. An yes, some kites will fly ok like that, or just enough to get you to the beach, others not so well.
I was out the day before yesterday on my foil and the same thing happened to me. Fortunately I fly Drifters and they will fly almost the same inverted :)
It's almost unavoidable in the gusty conditions of a SW / W wind on the Gold Coast (offshore).
So the way to avoid it is to NOT GO OUT in those conditions unless you are prepared to be patient and wait for the wind to get back up and then make your way back to shore. It pays to know the location / beach you are at very well and be confident in your kite skills / equipment.
When in doubt don't go out - that is by far the best rule. Do as I say, not as I do 
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Try not to linger your kite at 12-o-clock, specially if it's gusty. Keep it moving.
Keep at it.
Oh... and safety first.
If your kiting on the east coast and your winds are westerly, basic kiting rules for safety especially if your fairly new at it , DONT kite in offshore conditions which are nearly allways gusty.
Pick your days to kite , every one when they start allways want to kite in any conditions thats the stoke of the sport , but dont get caught out many of us have over the years thinking we are better than we are ,stay safe kite with in in capabilitys.
As the wind speed increases the wind wind expands a few degrees.
In really gusty conditions the wind window can expand and contract very noticeably.
If the kite is sitting at the edge of the wind window and a gust comes along the kite will shift forward. Then when the lull hits the wind window shrinks and the kite is now outside the window and it falls out of the sky.
To stop this happening when standing or floating static pull let the bar out in the gust and pull it in hard in the lull. If If your good enough you can fly your kite at the edge of the window in supper gusty wind.
To stop it happening will riding. Keep the kite moving always.
Now if the is hindenburging you have one option to save it. Tension the lines. Run like hell on the beach!. That's pretty hard when floating in the water. Fishpole the bar on the back hand (highest wingtip). Doing this gives you a chance of snapping the kite back before it hits the deck.
Note: The snap back can be very brutal depending on where it does it in the window. Prepare to get your arse hauled down wind for a bit. Don't do it on the land or very shallow water until you have the handle of the jandle.
In light wind perhaps do the run backwards thing.
In 35 knots if you see your kite falling backwards out of the sky, while you're standing on the beach, pull the safety before you get killed.
Terminology - what you've described is simply the kite rolling through its lines - no big deal just head back to beach and thread the bar back through the lines in such a way as to unwrap them (if in doubt disconnect your lines and run them again).
Inverting is when the kite flips so that the struts are on the outside. Reduce the chances of this by inflating adequately. If it does happen try to crash the kite gently into the water and it will likely flip back. Flying the kite inverted puts massive stress on the leading edge.
Have a look at line attachments settings eg pigtails at the kite or your back line knots under your floats on your bar. Picture your kite in the wind how much angle of attack eg the wind passing under your leading edge to the trailing edge. If your kite has insufficient angle it will invert to much angle you get lofted and overpowered before the kite has reached its max windrange. Could be wrong settings or stretched lines some kites are very sensitive to the slightest adjustments. I had a slingshot T3 with the same problem your kite has.
Like many above have posted, its most likely the gusterlies(westerlies) that are causing the problem. Horrible to kite in the offshore stuff most of the time, but we all remember the beginning stages where you're soooo keen to get out you'll pump up if a seagull farts lol.
Good luck bud.
Select to expand quotedjdojo said..
Terminology - what you've described is simply the kite rolling through its lines - no big deal just head back to beach and thread the bar back through the lines in such a way as to unwrap them (if in doubt disconnect your lines and run them again).
Inverting is when the kite flips so that the struts are on the outside. Reduce the chances of this by inflating adequately. If it does happen try to crash the kite gently into the water and it will likely flip back. Flying the kite inverted puts massive stress on the leading edge.
Well explained 
