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wind sport - kite or sail more FUN?

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Created by MobZ > 9 months ago, 6 Feb 2010
MobZ
NSW, 472 posts
6 Feb 2010 12:23PM
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I am keen to get into a healthy, fun new sport on the water. I have been trying kiteboarding latley. Got some lessons, got a Cabrinha Contra 12m with Prodigy 152 board. Went for a month long sabatical to progress and ride everyday and only managed to get the right conditions once where i could go out and go upwind and back.
At my spot, usually a world class spot, there was good wind, but offshore alot, and i am not good enough to go out in that. And nobody around too, not good at self launching or landing.

While i am messing around the whole time, guys are out there having a ball on windsurfers, both beginner and advanced sailors. So i grab a windsurfer and head out on that too, and it was fun.

Is windsurfing more versatile than kiting, requiring less conditions to come together for fun times on the water?
Set up and go alone no problems with a windsurfer - with more experience can i do this with kites?

In the end the weather does what it wants, and it was a unsettled month for sure.

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
6 Feb 2010 12:37PM
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As a first trolling attempt I'll give you 2/10. The windsurfing questions/comparisons are too obvious, and having every water sport already listed on your profile smells a little fishy too.

Hawks Nest is a great spot for many wind directions so I struggle to believe your "always offshore" and "only one day in a summer month" claims.

The sport of trolling is potentially more versatile than either kiting or windsurfing, but you need an initial level of subtlety to get yourself started.

Back to the drawing board with a new login. Good luck.

MobZ
NSW, 472 posts
6 Feb 2010 1:01PM
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djdojo said...

"Hawks Nest is a great spot for many wind directions so I struggle to believe your "always offshore" and "only one day in a summer month" claims. "
usually it goes north east and stays there every afternoon all afternoon in summer. Not this year though, there have been hardly any nor easters. And i am not going out on the ocean (onshore side) becuase the sharks are going beserk there right now. Out of every day in my month that i went to the beach, there was a juvinille great white come into the breakers to say hello

graceful
WA, 773 posts
6 Feb 2010 10:21AM
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100% windsurfing mate!!
Sell your kite

swoosh
QLD, 1928 posts
6 Feb 2010 1:09PM
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graceful said...

100% windsurfing mate!!
Sell your kite


as if, we don't want the tard, you keep him please.

Gorgo
VIC, 5101 posts
6 Feb 2010 2:35PM
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Assuming you're not a troll, and 'cause I just thought of this and felt like typing it out...

Of course windsurfing is fun. Everything to do with the sea and a board is fun. Is it as much fun as kiteboarding? Given that I, and everyone I know used to windsurf, and now we all kite, I guess the answer is no.

- Sailboards are better in super light winds where the wind drops out to nothing. You can uphaul them and drift along. If a kite crashes in light wind all you can do is self-rescue or swim in. (Realistically these conditions will only happen once in every 20-30 times you go. You're probably better off on a SUP or a surfboard or a bicycle in these conditions.)

- Sailboards are better if you have very limited space to launch in (but they are crap in heavy shore break).

- Sailboards are arguably safer in ultra-extreme conditions where you really shouldn't be out on the water in anything, let alone with a powerful kite that can lift you to great heights.

- The initial learning curve on a sailboard is a little shorter. I was up and riding upwind on a sailboard within an hour. Most people take about a month of practice before they get to kiting upwind and playing easily.

Those things aside, kiteboarding is so far superior in every other way as to not be comparable. You can do everything that a sailboard does, but do it easier, and better, and with less gear and it all fits in the boot of your car. Then there's all the stuff that sailboards can't even dream of doing.

As for versatility, you can kite with a twintip, a strapped surfboard, unstrapped surfboard (of any size), on a skimboard (even a sheet of plywood works fine). In huge surf, flat glass, 2 inch deep, snow, mountains, you name it and you can kite it.

graceful
WA, 773 posts
6 Feb 2010 2:10PM
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swoosh said...

graceful said...

100% windsurfing mate!!
Sell your kite


as if, we don't want the tard, you keep him please.



Hahaha

let it blow
120 posts
6 Feb 2010 3:43PM
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Yeah ,he does sound a bit soft(trollish),windsurfing for sure.
Just learn the right of way rules in the waves,not just sailing in the bay,,then teach the other windsurfers as well

And if your not just trollen,
my apologys,

And keep kiting,way more exciting than poledancing

japie
NSW, 7144 posts
6 Feb 2010 10:30PM
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How about taking a novel approach and doing both? Then you will be able to make your mind up for yourself and not have enough time to post ideas reached under the bridge!

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
7 Feb 2010 12:21AM
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Haircut
QLD, 6491 posts
7 Feb 2010 12:34AM
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in what year did adam sandler quit the band to take up acting?

cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
6 Feb 2010 11:18PM
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its always fun until someone looses an eye!

on a serious note, i notice windsurfers in decent waves tend to take a beating far more regularly than us kiters... respect to them and no doubt rewarding to them as well , but that doesnt make it fun for me so i will stick to kitesurfing.

Smithy
VIC, 859 posts
7 Feb 2010 12:36PM
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Having sailboarded (windsurfed) for many, many years before swapping to kites I am in total awe that you were able to grab a windsurfer and immediately go out and have some fun...........

let it blow
120 posts
7 Feb 2010 9:52AM
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Smithy said...

Having sailboarded (windsurfed) for many, many years before swapping to kites I am in total awe that you were able to grab a windsurfer and immediately go out and have some fun...........
^

When he said

GRAB A WINDSURFER and have some fun

He wasnt talking about windsurfing gear,he ment a dude who windsurfs
I heard they were a bit that way.

Mark _australia
WA, 23467 posts
7 Feb 2010 10:18PM
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Gorgo said...


Those things aside, kiteboarding is so far superior in every other way as to not be comparable. You can do everything that a sailboard does, but do it easier, and better, and with less gear and it all fits in the boot of your car. Then there's all the stuff that sailboards can't even dream of doing.



I was all set to agree with your post and bung a bit thumbs up on it then saw this
Hang on a sec - kiters can't go upside down for a start. No, the kite lower than rider cos you steered it there mid-boost doesn't count, I mean an end-over end loop like a forward, backie or push loop.

OTOH kiters can have more fun and jump mega hi in light winds with no ramp required.

In windsurfers favour they can do a lot more versatile reo's on their top turn (for unititiated kiters they can look for vids of goiter, air taka or even just tweaked aerials in general. Lots of kiters do powerful top turns but if you left the wave, chucked a 360 and then looked for the wave face again I doubt you'd land anywhere near it.

Everything kiting is hanging off the bar and body movement whislt the kite moves little. Windsurfing involves moving the gear in the air a lot so you are apilot not a passenger in air tricks.

I can't see how you say there is so much more to do and can do things windsurfers can't even dream of. Name some, apart from massive air off no ramp?

Anyway both are fun so to the O.P (if he is not a troll) - do whatever.

logan540
WA, 7 posts
7 Feb 2010 10:26PM
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Can windsurfers get shacked?

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
7 Feb 2010 10:34PM
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Gorgo said...
You can do everything that a sailboard does, but do it easier, and better, ...


Sail backwinded then, smart alec

I do both, and find kiting a bit boring because it's so easy. There are a whole range of tricks in windsurfing (helitack is a great example) where you have to flip the sail, jump around the board, change hands and feet all at the same time. It takes humungous amounts of co-ordination, balance and practice to get one of these tricks to work, something that a kiteloop or rail grab just doesn't require.

That said, transporting kites and kiteboards is a lot easier than transporting all the gear that windsurfing requires.

They're different. Find out what floats your boat, and do that.



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