hi all.
I want a board with loads of pop, but I don't really know what makes its pop. from my research on the net iv come to an understanding that a stiffer board produces more pop, but im sure there is more to pop then just a stiff board. please teach me, so I no what im looking for with my next board.
im 75kg, getting into free/wake style, and use 2013 airush razor with 132 f-one acid board.
Well you got a damn good kite for load and pop. Not familiar with the board though.
Yeh stiffness, also having enough rail in the water that is a squared off rail that runs the length of the board with less rounding off at the tips allows you to load more energy in the water to then be released. The flex profile is important to. Hopefully someone will answer who rides in boots and does all that jazz because that's where load and pop need to reign supreme.
But also as someon said technique is very important. Heaps of vids on that. Google is your friend.
The is a great 2 page description on pop and types of pop in the latest kite world Magazine issue 66, google kiteworldmag, or demo the boards your considering and ride a kite with low lift l and see which board produces
I'd say, stiff flex big rocker. But there's boards that flex more that work well for lighter riders. It comes down to the rider mostly.
Hi Kemp 90
Here are my thoughts on pop.
Stiffness definitely a must, plan shape and width in the tips helps, but try different boards out if you can, see what suits your conditions and style, big rocker helps in choppy conditions as the board will suck onto the water better and wont skip out while you are trying to load. Big rocker will also make the landings a bit more forgiving, especially in chop. Also too wide in the tips will make it skip out in chop too, but can increase pop in the rite conditions. Don't have fins that are too big, it will feel weird and you could develop the wrong technique.
If you use boots you will be able to control a bigger board and hold a more power, so this will also improve your pop.
So stick away from flexible boards, use the biggest board that feels comfortable with the conditions you usually sail in, have one with big rocker if you sail in chop.
I dont know anything about your board, but id say it is a bit small. I'm 78kg and ride a 139
Hope this helps
You can get pop out of any board you just have to learn how, but generaly the board should grab and you release it, a board with alot of rocker will have a natural drag against the kite which can be used to pop, a flatter board will go higher when you send the kite hard because its fast, but that hasnt got a lot to do with pop
Rounded boards pop less. squarer tip boards pop more.
I'm also going to say big fins help you pop more to...... you can hold more power for longer with bigger fins.
Thanks guys, I new amongst all the jokers there would be some awsome info.
Next question is what's your fav boards out there with loads of pop. I'm tossing up between cab custom, or crazy fly pro tour
Can't comment on the CF but Cab Customs - both my Dre from 2011 and my sons 2013 pop very nicely .
When you load you board up to pop this causes the board to bend a little, the quicker you can get the bend out of the board the bigger pop you'll create , you can even stiffin your board up with duct tap ! Just buy running a few strips from tip to tip on the top of your board makes a huge difference
lots of wakestyle boards have too much rocker i recon and they struggle to go up wind (cab custom, naish dub) if your gonna use boots you definitely need something strong so you pretty much have to get a wakestyle board, i have a naish monarch which isnt a full on wakestyle board, its good but i only weigh 60 kg and i snapped my first one within a month, got a new one under warrenty and it seems to be going good. i recon north gambler and tona pop boards are two of the best and still go up wind really easily. also go for a bigger size.
To answer properly, Pop is created by a lot of different factors, the biggest being line tension... You build the tension up in your lines enough that when you release your edge you get sprung up into the air. Factors that make a board pop higher are, wider tips, optimised flex, different channel placements etc... None of these alone actually do anything, for example if you built a board in the shape of a rectangle it wouldn't ride great. All things need to be in balance to create a board that pops big.
Obviously I'm plugging myself here but I've spent a lot of time over the last 10years thinking about how to make my boards better and the new Axis Tranq I designed is my way of showcasing that. It's a board that pops great but still keeps a playful and enjoyable feel to it. Try it and tell me I'm wrong 
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^^^^ make one in a 139 and i'll grab one bruh
The Billy Pro 140 and the Bootleg 138 are also my exact same design just scaled down 
. How big are you? There's a few demos about if you want to try and see which is best, or hit me up if you see me.
Select to expand quoteThe Billy Pro 140 and the Bootleg 138 are also my exact same design just scaled down .
I was under the impression this was your design? Is it the exact same board in three sizes, different graphics with a riders signature applied?
Select to expand quotesci said..The Billy Pro 140 and the Bootleg 138 are also my exact same design just scaled down . sir ROWDY said..
I was under the impression this was your design? Is it the exact same board in three sizes, different graphics with a riders signature applied?
I worked on the Tranq with ALH, The Parker Pro with BP. I spent years building protos for Billy with Underground and then Axis. I worked quite a short time with Alex and got a lot of feedback very quickly. The design from Billy and the design from ALH ended up in the same direction independently to each other. So they ended up same but different sizes. The Tranq is stiffer than the Parker pro etc but pretty close. The 138 Bootleg is a smaller version. Pretty stoked to have these boards in action finally.
^ What Adrain said!
To Answer your question Sci, although I can see it may be a tad confusing, they are pretty much the same board just for different size riders. I wanted more width, length and a stiffer lay-up, whilst billys board is a touch softer, shorter and narrower. As Adrian said he was working on all the boards at the same time so naturally both Billy and my own board incorporated bits and pieces from each other to make us practically the same designs just different sizes. Pretty cool how it worked out actually!
