No other bar gets this many posts. There are so many issues with this bar. Everyone seems to have their own modification to solve some or other crap feature. Some of them touched upon include the bulk of the depower and QR bundle, the wear of the DP, accidental release of the QR.
Something not mentioned which is another disadvantage of the below the bar depower is the fact that there are 3 ropes going through the centre of the bar. When I ride waves with my front hand on the bar and the rope going between my fingers, it can be painful. While I am tough enough to live with rope burns between my index and middle fingers, why should I?
I agree with saffer, every bar has issues, so I hope the ss people are reading this so that in 2010 they bring out something better (otherwise I'm getting another make).
I also just cleat the rope even when fully powered to get that plastic thing at the end of the rope out the way, but again, why should I compromise my technique for their design flaws. At the risk of being flamed even more, give me a Cab bar (NOT kite!) any day.
Finally, I love all these people telling me I'm wrong about the stopper falling down. I used 6 mm spectra and the stopper fell down. I was there. It happened. Since I did not have "lace" I had to tie it up with a piece of string.
Its not the rope, the rope is being damaged by the metal cylinder. I was looking for a how to fix, which would appear to be contact ss. As for slingshot chucking in some input this is specificly for the bar issue. I love ss but I have to admit i have had quite a few issues with my rev.
My red "lock and load safety knob" and the pin on my "lock and load harness line" keep undoing themselves after i kite for a bit. which is a real problem if i ride suicide. anyone know a fix?http://www.slingshotkiteboarding1.ashop.com.au/c/119174/1/parts.html show the above mentioned lock and load items :P
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this is it. and wash your bar in the shower when you have one it is salt water after all.
Hey guys no matter what you do or build there will always be wearing problems..
For those who kited for more then 4 years they should know that ss used to have an above the cleat bar, smaller hole, one year with a metal sleeve exposed so you wouldn't catch your fingers, the rope is now doubl;e through the bar so you can have your adjustable stopper ball easy to use, which every other brand copied now..
So ss have gone through at least 4 maybe 5 different bar designs and set ups since I have had the pleasure to ride the product.
There is a pro lenton bar still available with cleat above the bar..
There are still after sales products to make and service all the abouve mentioned bars, or to set them up.
ss used to produce accessories for kiting, back when naish had door knobs on the sides of bars to tie lines to.
I'm sure they here everything you've said lets see what they bring to the table in 2010..
ps no system is perfect..
Enjoy your riding :-)
Hey I;ve heard a really good way to overcome the problem is by purchasing a large amount of dental floss and weaving your own rope. Its super strong, keeps the bar holey thing free of buildup and has a pleasant minty fragrance. I've only had to replace my new floss rope twice, and thats only been because the mint freshness was losing its zing...
^^^ hehe
Why are the pros lucky enough to get the above the bar cleat, but us plebs have to make do with below the bar? (I know I can buy a pro bar if I want, but makes you think doesn't it.)
So, my new "well designed" ss bar needs the following modifications:
1. replace depower line with 6 mm spectra line (chuck the bearing or keep it?). Buy sailing needle and cotton to get rope through.
2. Add a pulley for the dp rope to go through, instead of the metal ring.
3. add lace or something else to prevent the stopper from falling down the new rope.
4. Add tougher elastic to QR or fix with self tapping screw (and so loose QR ability) ro prevent unwanted and unexpected loss of kite.
5. Add a short line to the CSS line and hook my leash to this.
6. File metal cylinder smoother and go over it with waterpaper.
7. Add some elastic to each end to keep my lines neat (like all other respectable bars on the market have).
8. When riding, I cannot leave the depower uncleated because it gets in the way -I have to cleat it slightly.
Well done ss! Cutting edge design. Check out the Naish bar, Cabrinah bar... they're years ahead.
Having to replace my spectra for the 3rd time now..but really best system IMO. I recon that SS can improve the design by having plastic sleaving just where the line gets most use...don't know but surely they will figure something out and make it that much better.....luv my Rev
Make no mistake, I love how the rev flies. It was by far the best of the kites that I demoed of the sle, hybridy kind of kites and I demoed 4 or 5. All the modifications I listed have been suggested in this thread by people other than me and I probably left out one or two that people have suggested. None could be apparent from the demo except modification 7 which shows that you need to take other factors into account when considering which kites to fork over your hard earned cash for.
I am amazed by the number of people who are so defensive of the bar given the number of threads previously and posts regarding all the problems.
I've had the revs for 1.5 years now. I wash my lines in fresh water after every session.
I also wet my depower line and clean off any sand as I enter the water.
Kites have had sh!t loads of use over the years and I'm still on my original depower rope and CSS line. Plus they are still in good condition, I reckon I'll get another 6 months out of them.
Look after your gear and it lasts!!
any1 got a link to the vid on how to roll up ur lines? cant find it on ss website
So I called slingshot, they are sendin g me a new bar, sarfety gear chicken loop and bridal. FOR FREE. seriously good service. They were like "yeah this happens occasionaly, where do you live what size is your kite, its on its way" 5 star service :)
Slingshot service is great. Anything stuffs up for whatever reason, they don't stuff you around, they just fix it. Top marks from me.
Sure there might be a few bugs thaat come up now and again, but what brand doesn't have this? please name them.
Slingshot has had a quality product for years, and has the customer service to back anyone up. If you don't like slingshot dont buy it, but you are going to have problems with any brand you buy, be it bladders, bar, lines, canopy construction or anything else in between.
Choose a brand/ shop that is going to be able to back you up if something does happen, instead of thinking you can buy something that will never screw up.... because that is just a dream.
p.s. I am in no way affiliated with slingshot.
just got my gear in the mail. They really looked after me the bar must be off a rpm or something its not foam grip but like soft plastic and a bunch of lines and stuff, Fu%$@$%@ love slingshots service!!!!!!!!!!! if the bar is off the rpm they have really improved the gear. this thing would last for years cant see how it could be damaged, ie old ones letters slinghot would come off. regardless after this service and what i have heard ill buy an rpm.
