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Created by bargearse > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2010
bargearse
QLD, 148 posts
4 Jul 2010 10:50AM
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having lost my working cabrinha pump i'm left witht he one that never worked from the get go - it seems to slip and not seal on the first of the up and down stroke leaving me completely rooted by the time i pump up the 12m.

I have tried pulling it apart and removing the heaps of lube/ re-lubing but it has never worked properly since new - think there's something wrong with it.

If I am up for $50 for a new pump anyway, what are the new 12v pumps like? They've been out for a while know so can someone tell me about reliability, longevity and spare parts availability please? are there different brands to consider? How long is the warranty? How long does it take? Am hoping If you can just put it on and walk back to the kite with it at the right pressure fully dressed and ready to go it might make all the difference for those days when you only have 40 mins in the afternoon?

One thing I dont want to do is have to hook my manual pump up to finish it of or get it hard enough. For $300 it's got to work as described everytime.

If I do just go manual again, is there a manual kite pump out there (they all look like they're made in the same place) that is more reliable than another?

loudas
NSW, 51 posts
4 Jul 2010 1:10PM
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pumps are 30 bucks at clark rubber. they don't come with a leash but it takes 2 seconds to drill a hole in the base and tie a piece of rope with a plastic hook to it.

i've had an electric pump but for the 300 bucks i paid for it, it really wasn't worth the extra weight and it was only one season before the sand destroyed it.

if you hate pumping your kite, leave the struts inflated when you pack up

suface2air
QLD, 701 posts
4 Jul 2010 1:16PM
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I bought one for $10 at dollar and cents bit like silly sollys shop didnt have right fitting in it for cabrina set up but i just pinched hose of stuffed pump all sweeet . it has been going for 2 seasons and is still good .

4 Jul 2010 1:19PM
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bargearse said...

having lost my working cabrinha pump i'm left witht he one that never worked from the get go - it seems to slip and not seal on the first of the up and down stroke leaving me completely rooted by the time i pump up the 12m.

I have tried pulling it apart and removing the heaps of lube/ re-lubing but it has never worked properly since new - think there's something wrong with it.

If I am up for $50 for a new pump anyway, what are the new 12v pumps like? They've been out for a while know so can someone tell me about reliability, longevity and spare parts availability please? are there different brands to consider? How long is the warranty? How long does it take? Am hoping If you can just put it on and walk back to the kite with it at the right pressure fully dressed and ready to go it might make all the difference for those days when you only have 40 mins in the afternoon?

One thing I dont want to do is have to hook my manual pump up to finish it of or get it hard enough. For $300 it's got to work as described everytime.

If I do just go manual again, is there a manual kite pump out there (they all look like they're made in the same place) that is more reliable than another?



Take that Cabrinha pump back to your dealer, they should be able to replace it for you.
The latest pumps from them seem to work fine, but there was a faulty batch about a year ago, they only worked on one stroke the "return tube" inside the handle was cut too short on some pumps and they just dis not work properly, and we not really practical to fix.

The newer Australian brand electric pumps http://www.kitepower.com.au/catalog/product_17764_Island_Inflator_Pump_cat_323.html
Work really well compared to the older Bravo brand. This is a new design with a much tougher internals, 12 months warranty, local parts and service provided in Australia, if needed.
Much quieter and smoother operation, seems like a much higher quality unit than the Bravo.



bobdaboarder
NSW, 185 posts
4 Jul 2010 5:58PM
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Just bought my pump from rays outdoors 20 bucks

ok
NSW, 1089 posts
4 Jul 2010 9:55PM
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why dont they make the pumps double the height so tall people like me dont have to bend over so much to pump up?

Surfer62
1357 posts
4 Jul 2010 8:04PM
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Why do tall people repeat themselves ?????

Try kneeling ya lanky knucklehead

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
4 Jul 2010 10:07PM
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^^ cause it seems tall people like you like to do things twice for no point at all already

yeatsie
28 posts
5 Jul 2010 12:27AM
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Surfer62 is right, try kneeling when you pump the kite.. i'm tall and kneeling really got rid of some lower back pain i had for about a good 2 weeks just due to kite pumping.
All of a sudden you are using your upper arms, shoulders and quads rather than the lower back muscles. Sorted.
Yeatsie

cel23
QLD, 175 posts
5 Jul 2010 7:36AM
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ok said...

on the topic of pumps why dont they make them double the height so u dont have to bend over as much to pump up?


and that would mean double the pumping power! I like

ok
NSW, 1089 posts
5 Jul 2010 6:20PM
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im sorry it kept askin me to log in and type it again dam computer!

rusty7
QLD, 504 posts
5 Jul 2010 7:02PM
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personally i luv my battery pump. Hook it on to the kite, turn it on. I hook the loop on the kite to the clip on th strap and the pump is heavy enough to hold the kite in place. by the time you layout your lines the kite is fully inflated (I luv 1 pump too. )out you can actually get more pressure out of your electric pump than you can with a hand pump. you get 8 - 10 uses out of a battery charge for a 13m kite. New batteries available from battery world $19. The only downer is the sh1t you cop from all the jealous ba5tard5 who are hand pumping thier kites.lol you do have to remember to charge it... you will have to buy a trany from dick smith (13volt). The car charger is next to useless unless you have really long drive or a decent cable setup n your car.

terryzarmzof
QLD, 336 posts
5 Jul 2010 8:53PM
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haha keep pumping by hand, gave that up now i just relax and let the electric get it to the perfect pressure.

PsYLoR
QLD, 927 posts
6 Jul 2010 9:21AM
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stick a tube over your cars exhaust and rev it to pump up your kite. lol

bargearse
QLD, 148 posts
6 Jul 2010 11:48AM
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rusty7 said...

personally i luv my battery pump. Hook it on to the kite, turn it on. I hook the loop on the kite to the clip on th strap and the pump is heavy enough to hold the kite in place. by the time you layout your lines the kite is fully inflated (I luv 1 pump too. )out you can actually get more pressure out of your electric pump than you can with a hand pump. you get 8 - 10 uses out of a battery charge for a 13m kite. New batteries available from battery world $19. The only downer is the sh1t you cop from all the jealous ba5tard5 who are hand pumping thier kites.lol you do have to remember to charge it... you will have to buy a trany from dick smith (13volt). The car charger is next to useless unless you have really long drive or a decent cable setup n your car.


hi rusty, thanks for the reply.can you tell me the brand/model of your pump?

rusty7
QLD, 504 posts
6 Jul 2010 3:33PM
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No probs Bargearse Mines a bravo, Yellow rectangular one not sure of the model ...comes in a black carry bag with a picture of a kite on it. The new one that KP has looks very similar but mine doesn't have digital display just has the thumb wheel to adjust pressure. I think any of the pumps you can find will be okay just make sure you have an onboard battery in them. The onboard battery adds to the weight and helps hold the kite down also makes them easy to transport. Happy button pushing.:-)

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
6 Jul 2010 11:15PM
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rusty7 said...

you will have to buy a trany from dick smith







man that place sells everything

7 Jul 2010 11:55AM
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rusty7 said...

No probs Bargearse Mines a bravo, Yellow rectangular one not sure of the model ...comes in a black carry bag with a picture of a kite on it. The new one that KP has looks very similar but mine doesn't have digital display just has the thumb wheel to adjust pressure. I think any of the pumps you can find will be okay just make sure you have an onboard battery in them. The onboard battery adds to the weight and helps hold the kite down also makes them easy to transport. Happy button pushing.:-)


The new island inflatable brand has taken all thats good about the twin piston plastic bravo design and made all the moving parts out of alloy and fitted sealed ball roller bearings where the Bravo has bronze bushes. The cyclinders and pistons and conrods are all alloy.
The digital readout replaces the analogue/mechanical pressure switch in the bravo which gave a lot of trouble when it got sand and sand dust in the contacts and internals.
The island inflatable brand is part owner by a Sydney based company, and they are backing the brand 100% with parts, service and warranty. The pump runs with a lot less noise and vibration than the bravo, so far it works brilliantly, unlike my 18mth old Bravo.



rusty7
QLD, 504 posts
7 Jul 2010 1:18PM
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Hey Steve...... very technical info, but what i want to know is do the cables on these new ones mysterously disconnect themselves when you are on road trips like the bravo??????lol .....
............and youre a sick man doc.

8 Jul 2010 12:10AM
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Weird stuff happens on road trips, especially if I'm there.
One of my mates went to pick up his kite today and there was a huge stick "connected" to it, I had nothing to do with it.

Anyway, just blame your mates.



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