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Created by tikityboo > 9 months ago, 5 Oct 2009
tikityboo
WA, 16 posts
5 Oct 2009 11:23PM
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One of my pullys broke while out on the water, anyway as I was wrapping my lines in a windsurfer sailed between me and my kite. Proberly not a good move, as it did'nt work out too well for him.

He must of had plenty of time to aviod me as I had wraped in half of my lines and attached my board to my spare leash.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
6 Oct 2009 9:16AM
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Oh, that's pretty stink! Can't have been a very experienced Poley to do that to you!

Most guys would have sailed upwind of you I'm sure. Lets not have another kiters vs poleys debate!

Rhys McClintock
NSW, 995 posts
6 Oct 2009 10:14AM
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Your lines ok?

To be fair - it's pretty hard to see anything in the water when your sailing... Kiteboards pop up from nowhere right in front of you... But a guy in the water and a kite should be pretty easy to see...

where where you kiting?

Shane71
QLD, 50 posts
7 Oct 2009 8:13AM
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Not good. Last season I had a similar experience, nothing had broke but the kite was in the water directly down wind from me, had been there for a few minutes as I was composing myself to try again (was still learning), anyway I had a kiter go between me and the kite. I was not going to let him cut the lines with his board and fins so I lifted the lines out of the water and coat hangered him. Worked well, lines ok and one more crashed kiter.

Cheers

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
7 Oct 2009 1:17PM
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Shane71 said...

Not good. Last season I had a similar experience, nothing had broke but the kite was in the water directly down wind from me, had been there for a few minutes as I was composing myself to try again (was still learning), anyway I had a kiter go between me and the kite. I was not going to let him cut the lines with his board and fins so I lifted the lines out of the water and coat hangered him. Worked well, lines ok and one more crashed kiter.

Cheers


are you joking? Surely you don't think what you did was ok....

sk1nner
VIC, 181 posts
7 Oct 2009 1:49PM
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Smedg said...

Shane71 said...

Not good. Last season I had a similar experience, nothing had broke but the kite was in the water directly down wind from me, had been there for a few minutes as I was composing myself to try again (was still learning), anyway I had a kiter go between me and the kite. I was not going to let him cut the lines with his board and fins so I lifted the lines out of the water and coat hangered him. Worked well, lines ok and one more crashed kiter.

Cheers


are you joking? Surely you don't think what you did was ok....


I agree, im glad you are in QLD and not WA. You seriously can't think that is acceptable behaviour on the water.

I have recently had the pleasure of being coat hangered by someone crashing their kite in to me (although an accident and very apologetic), the kite lines can do some pretty serious damage to your body when you are tangled up and have no control of 2x looping kites in 25 knots.


sneakybutche
VIC, 73 posts
7 Oct 2009 2:11PM
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I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot and you were about to sail straight over a windsurfers sail he would be doing more than trying to coathanger you to save his sail. If the intention of the windsurfer was to cut the kiters lines, I would have no hesitation but to act in the same way. If it was infact an oversight on the windsurfers behalf i'm sure a few stern words as the windsurfer is approaching should do the trick. Windsurfers should know better than to sail between a kiter and his downed kite. A little bit of respect between codes is not too much to ask.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
7 Oct 2009 2:12PM
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sk1nner said...

Smedg said...

Shane71 said...

Not good. Last season I had a similar experience, nothing had broke but the kite was in the water directly down wind from me, had been there for a few minutes as I was composing myself to try again (was still learning), anyway I had a kiter go between me and the kite. I was not going to let him cut the lines with his board and fins so I lifted the lines out of the water and coat hangered him. Worked well, lines ok and one more crashed kiter.

Cheers


are you joking? Surely you don't think what you did was ok....


I agree, im glad you are in QLD and not WA. You seriously can't think that is acceptable behaviour on the water.

I have recently had the pleasure of being coat hangered by someone crashing their kite in to me (although an accident and very apologetic), the kite lines can do some pretty serious damage to your body when you are tangled up and have no control of 2x looping kites in 25 knots.





Espescially considering the likley hood of your lines being damaged is pretty low, they'd just run along underneath the board no problem...

Gorgo
VIC, 5101 posts
7 Oct 2009 2:51PM
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Beersy said...
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Espescially considering the likley hood of your lines being damaged is pretty low, they'd just run along underneath no problem...


Yeah, great plan. Lift your lines and make double sure the other guy gets hooked up in them instead of riding harmlessly over.

axis
VIC, 399 posts
7 Oct 2009 2:59PM
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sk1nner said...
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I have recently had the pleasure of being coat hangered by someone crashing their kite in to me (although an accident and very apologetic), the kite lines can do some pretty serious damage to your body when you are tangled up and have no control of 2x looping kites in 25 knots.



The other day in underpowered conditions someone accidentally down looped their kite into me as I was passing downwind of them. Knocked me off the board - 1 line snagged my harness and another my hand - flicked off but even in under powered conditions the potential for damage is big.

btw the guy was very apologetic and no harm done. Total accident.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
7 Oct 2009 3:05PM
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Gorgo said...

Beersy said...
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Espescially considering the likley hood of your lines being damaged is pretty low, they'd just run along underneath no problem...


Yeah, great plan. Lift your lines and make double sure the other guy gets hooked up in them instead of riding harmlessly over.


I meant the lines would run under the board

Miss Jessie
NSW, 181 posts
7 Oct 2009 3:24PM
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I got clothes lined last year while walking up the beach with my kite by a learner, who was kiting near the shore. Not only did i get the line through the neck, but thrown 3m back, then had my own kite kite loop and get thrown over the sand dunes... I got away lucky, a slight line burn to the neck and some brused ribs. But dont wish it on anyone else-it could go so horribly wrong. I have seen kite lines rip through wet suits and skin.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
7 Oct 2009 6:12PM
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Beersy said...

sk1nner said...

Smedg said...

Shane71 said...

Not good. Last season I had a similar experience, nothing had broke but the kite was in the water directly down wind from me, had been there for a few minutes as I was composing myself to try again (was still learning), anyway I had a kiter go between me and the kite. I was not going to let him cut the lines with his board and fins so I lifted the lines out of the water and coat hangered him. Worked well, lines ok and one more crashed kiter.

Cheers


are you joking? Surely you don't think what you did was ok....


I agree, im glad you are in QLD and not WA. You seriously can't think that is acceptable behaviour on the water.

I have recently had the pleasure of being coat hangered by someone crashing their kite in to me (although an accident and very apologetic), the kite lines can do some pretty serious damage to your body when you are tangled up and have no control of 2x looping kites in 25 knots.





Espescially considering the likley hood of your lines being damaged is pretty low, they'd just run along underneath the board no problem...


Still doesn't make the rider going over the lines any less of a prick. Anyone who rides between a kiter and his kite intentionally deserves to be bitchslapped on the beach.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
7 Oct 2009 6:16PM
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[b]Saffer said...

Still doesn't make the rider going over the lines any less of a prick. Anyone who rides between a kiter and his kite intentionally deserves to be bitchslapped on the beach.


That's true, but intentionally coat hangering somebody is alot stupider, one makes you a prick but the other could hurt someone pretty bad.

wierd
VIC, 3 posts
7 Oct 2009 6:55PM
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Beersy said...
That's true, but intentionally coat hangering somebody is alot stupider, one makes you a prick but the other could hurt someone pretty bad.


+1 id rather be a prick that gets a talking to than in hospital.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
7 Oct 2009 3:58PM
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Surely nobody is going to intentionally ride between a kite and the rider? Unless of course they wish to harm themselves more than anyone else?

No doubt it was a brain fade, sun in the eyes or just that the poley didn't know his way around kites (is that so hard to fathom - how much do you know about poles?).

Bet he doesn't make the same mistake again though!

sebol
WA, 753 posts
8 Oct 2009 12:39AM
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Mate if I accidently run between your kite and yourself and I see you purposefully raise your lines, you would really really want to eject your kite and swim real fast because it is a calling for the bashing of a lifetime.

It has to be a joke,no one who knows what a kite line looks like would attempt something so stupid

Blownaway
QLD, 776 posts
8 Oct 2009 6:41AM
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As if you would coat hanger someone on purpose...???!!!
Has to be joking.....right ?

Kite rage at its worst,kite lines cut like a knife when fully tensioned.

Gorgo
VIC, 5101 posts
8 Oct 2009 2:06PM
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Beersy said...
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I meant the lines would run under the board


I was agreeing with you and pointing out the futility of trying to trip up the other guy.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Oct 2009 3:21PM
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Beersy said...

[b]Saffer said...

Still doesn't make the rider going over the lines any less of a prick. Anyone who rides between a kiter and his kite intentionally deserves to be bitchslapped on the beach.


That's true, but intentionally coat hangering somebody is alot stupider, one makes you a prick but the other could hurt someone pretty bad.


As could running over someone's lines which is an equally dangerous action. If you only cut one of the lines you have the potential to creating a looping kite. The alternative is that you are unintentionally (through no fault of the person in the water) caught up in their lines resulting in 2 looping kites with even more disastrous consequences. I've also seen people caught up in their lines, so riding over them can hurt the person if they are trapped in the lines or have them caught around any part of their body.

The reality is if someone goes over someone else's lines, then they are clearly not concentrating and are a danger to those water users around them. You can play it up as the sun or whatever **** you want to, but in reality, its just a reality poor excuse for not watching what is happening around you.

This is not to defend the actions of the coat hanger retaliation, I don't agree with that either, but lets not play down the danger or @ssholeness of riding over someone's lines.

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
8 Oct 2009 5:44PM
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Gorgo said...

Beersy said...
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I meant the lines would run under the board


I was agreeing with you and pointing out the futility of trying to trip up the other guy.


Oh okay sorry then



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