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correct line length to make replacement lines

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Created by loops > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2015
loops
6 posts
11 Mar 2015 12:22AM
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Hi,

I shredded both my front lines and one of my back lines on my 2014 North kite 22m quad lines. Does anyone know how I can find the line length so I can make replacement lines (north lines are very pricey and shred easily)

Thanks, Linda

surforkite
NSW, 153 posts
11 Mar 2015 8:33AM
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Hi
Ive got the 14 but a 2012,great kite.
regardless of opinions lines stretch in use but over time shrink in length.
I also have couple of bandits and have contacted distributor which means googling around,and ask for
line lengths.
regardless of any total lengths any lines can be made up as long as any differences are copied between
centre lines and rear.
You would have to get very close to right lengths copying old shredded lines,from there you can tune lengths.
what really helps this is to use "Q-line which is all I use now,It is expensive but can be just tied on ends then adjusted to length
100 times by undoing loops. There are 2 types q-line and q-line plus.
I will never use normal line again and it doesn't knot like your normal kite lines.










flyingcab
VIC, 942 posts
11 Mar 2015 9:42AM
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loops said..
Hi,

I shredded both my front lines and one of my back lines on my 2014 North kite 22m quad lines. Does anyone know how I can find the line length so I can make replacement lines (north lines are very pricey and shred easily)

Thanks, Linda


Just buy 4 new even length lines

loops
6 posts
11 Mar 2015 10:18PM
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Thanks. it looks more like i got to fork out the crazy money for the North lines unless i can get the exact measurements from another set of lines North 22m 2014. the 22m is a ref to the back lines. the front lines are shorter. how much shorter is the question !

ulx
53 posts
12 Mar 2015 3:15AM
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I just had the same problem when I wanted to have new lines for my slingshot bar. Funny how everybody seems to think, because the lines are equal length at the end they must be same length when it comes to frontlines vs rearlines, too.

On the slingshot bar nowadays there are small labels on all lines where you can see how long the lines are. I guess, that is not the case with the north bar, is it? That way, someone with a new bar could just check?

Gorgo
VIC, 5097 posts
12 Mar 2015 10:46AM
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Why do you care what the original line lengths are if you're going to make new ones? Make them whatever length you want.

The only thing that matters is the relative length so you get the trim right. Most gliders work with equal front and rear lines. You should be able to check that using your existing broken lines. You need to make the lengths suitable that you can adjust the final lengths with the pigtails provided (or add in pig tails so you can adjust the length).

I prefer to splice line and use a double splice on the loops. A double splice is where you insert a short length of line inside the loop. Run the insert a little down the tail so it gets buried in the splice and locked in place. Finish off the line with a short run of sewing to lock the splice into place.

flyingcab
VIC, 942 posts
12 Mar 2015 2:27PM
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Gorgo is right although obviously 7m length is different to 20m. Anything from 18-24 m is fine. Why don't you make your right lines longer then your left? Should be more fun

KiteBud
WA, 1598 posts
12 Mar 2015 11:51AM
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Hi Linda,

I would also suggest getting a new set of North lines. But to answer your question if you want to get other lines, it's pretty obvious you need to:

1- Measure the back line length: 22 meters should be the length of your back lines from the bar to the end of the line but just measure it again just to be sure with the 1 line you have left

2- Measure the distance from the bar to where both front lines are attached (O-Ring).

3-Substract the length from the back lines to the length from the bar to front lines attachments, and you get the exact length of front lines you need...

Simple!

snalberski
WA, 858 posts
13 Mar 2015 11:49PM
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The front lines on the quad bar are shorter because they meet and join into one main front line that then connects to the pulley that the depower rope threads though. I would think that a small amount of variation from the original in the length wouldn't matter too much, it would only slightly change the angle of the Y. The overall correct length could be made when you make the new single main frontline, which you will need to do. That line is made from a heavier gauge Dyneema- 3mm. You would also need to make sure that the two frontlines above the Y that you make are exactly the same length or you will no doubt have real problems with the kite. The whole thing is probably best constructed with the bar laid out and the required lines done one at a time.

What you want to do is certainly doable - I've made my own depower ropes and saftey lines - but there may be quite a bit more to it than is expected. You could end up buying the stuff to make the lines (which is still quite dear) and finding out its to complex to do a satisfactory job. You may end up bining it all and still need to the North set.

Having made my own simple parts of a quad bar I would be reasonably confident to make other parts such as the front and rear flying lines but I do know that what you want to do will require some established skills to obtain the very critical correct lengths

flyingcab
VIC, 942 posts
14 Mar 2015 2:16PM
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What you want to do is lay your lines out, bar in, no depower, and the ends should all be the same length.
There are heaps of vids on the net if you look around.

loops
6 posts
16 Mar 2015 9:03PM
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There are the little tabs with the line length on the back lines but not the front (just to make making up lines more difficult!)

loops
6 posts
16 Mar 2015 9:06PM
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Hi Cbulota, I think this should work but your suggestion of getting a new set of North lines is probably the best and being more careful next time. Loops



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