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claimers and the facts - a short history lesson

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Created by Kitepower Australia > 9 months ago, 10 Apr 2009
Alex sanz
NSW, 106 posts
12 Apr 2009 9:28PM
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Kitehard said...

Kitepower Australia said...

Another standout person who has quit now is Paul Crawford from Sydney, he was very inspirational. He had one of the very first Wipika kites, and rode surfboards, he actually really did pioneer the sport here in Sydney, prior to Darren Marshall and myself, although I had been trying various kites and boards for about 18 months prior to seeing Paul do his massive downwinders from Brighton to Dolls.


My perspective of the golden age of kiting

Paul Crawford was the first kiter I ever saw riding in Sydney. I was out flying my Wipika 8.5 on the beach on the sand flats at Mick Moyland point and Paul cam riding down the river and stepped off his surfboard onto the beach, picked it up and came and said hello. I was amazed and quite impressed. He was riding surfboards and couldn't go upwind. I was yet to ride the board as I had only just received my new kite the day before and ewas practicing on the beach

I had already bought a Stonker 5 fin Polyester 195 directional and was the first dedicated kite board in Sydney to my knowledge. This was in December of 1999.

I bought the board thru Longreef who ordered it specifically for me from Alex at Stonker. I had the board before I had the kite as the kite had to be ordered from Matt Colefax in QLD and we were waiting for the new model Freeair rather than buy the soon to be outdated Classic. All kites then were two line, The freeair was the first to be set up for 2 or 4 line.

First guys I saw ride were in Hawaii in 99, a few of the earlist names as guys rode downwind from Sprecks to Kanaha. Then came to Mambo and saw Mini (Felix Pivec) and Maxi (forget his name) riding out the back and I think Alex Gillan. Terry Gallagher also bought a Stonker directional at Mambo that year and it was after talking to him that I thought I'd buy one which started my fascination with Kiting.

It was a different era back then, no claimers, no ego's, just a tiny band of crazies having fun with kites. Best trick in 99, riding upwind!

AKS started in Sydney in 2001 and was the first kite school in Sydney. I did lessons for Long Reef Sail and Surf, Balmoral Boards, I think even some for Kitepower if memory serves me correctly, please correct me if I'm wrong. Copped much ridicule and crap from all my poley mates back then. Laughed at for starting a school by other kiters as "No one will pay you to teach them how to kitesurf" was the call.

My old man has some very early footage of me and others kiting in 2000 I think, I look back and cringe, but it was all good in the day and was, at the time, the best riding going on. Candle stick inverts, table tops, back rolls and that was about it.

I loved the old times, Kiting was undiluted and pure as ever back then, there was only two brands of inflateble kites (Wipika and Naish) and Peter Lynn water foils (Yuk!) and one brand of boards (Stonker). I think the Arcs were about to come out around 2000/01. Most kiwi's like Kane were riding C-Quads prior to 2000.

Here's cheers to the true pioneers! It's a pity everyone didn't get to experience "kiting back in the day", because they'll never know what it was like in the beginnings when it was totally pure and it was amazing just to see another kiter. We banded together like lost souls back then and became friends immediately. The group was tight and only consisted of about 6 kiters. Myself, Paul Crawford, Paul Stockham, Sam Burns, Sean Wilkens, Duncan Place and Pete the Pilot. The original South Side crew!

Good winds,





And I was there getting it all on video . yeah the good old days!!
when we all helped each other...

videos uploaded tomorrow ..

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
12 Apr 2009 7:29PM
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12 Apr 2009 10:05PM
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Mr float said...

GalahOnTheBay said...

So unless anyone else has a differing view, Paul Crawford was the first kite surfer in Aus.

Sounds like a good bloke if you ask me...

WTF is up with the red thumbs for Steve and Darren's posts - kids these days have no respect. No really.

Oh and in other news I hear Paul Stockham and Sam Burns have now reconciled their differences through extensive counselling with Tanya Koens and are back together again


so what 's the Craw up to and what is Paul up to these days .he seemed to drop off the planet .Does he still kite ? If anyone sees him say g'day



Paul is living in Brisbane now, still working for Qantas. he does not kite due to having an op on his neck, it was quite serious needed bone grafts had to take it easy. he has a small 4 line foil that I beleive he has flown a bit, and I hope he does get back on the water, he is a legend and certainley inspired me.
Great with computers too!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
12 Apr 2009 8:27PM
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Here's some more useless trivia only a few would know.

Matty Colefax (Wipika Australia) is one of my mates from Cairns.
Actually I recon he stole Beck from my flatmate

So I guess you could call a small bunch of kiters (Jack, Frank, Paula, Beck and me) from Cairns (Mat Colefax's home town) possibly some of the first on Inflato kites in Australia.

www.newkiteboarding.com

12 Apr 2009 11:40PM
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NJPornstar said...

Here's some more useless trivia only a few would know.

Matty Colefax (Wipika Australia) is one of my mates from Cairns.
Actually I recon he stole Beck from my flatmate

So I guess you could call a small bunch of kiters (Jack, Frank, Paula, Beck and me) from Cairns (Mat Colefax's home town) possibly some of the first on Inflato kites in Australia.

www.newkiteboarding.com


When did you start kiting in WA with inflatos?
Was that the first place started kiting/

It would be great to hear from others that go way back to the beggining of kiting in oz?
Who else was there at the beggining/

Cya and

Goodwinds

McCurious


kiterider
63 posts
12 Apr 2009 9:51PM
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Just to clear up this stuff, here is a picture of me and the chick who pioneered kitsuffering in OZ. Ya can tell by our tans we been at it a long time,



Alex sanz
NSW, 106 posts
13 Apr 2009 10:13AM
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I have videos of most of the stuff you guys are talking about. but I need a video 8 camera to access the footage. All the stuff you will see today is digital. I haven't even looked at the really old stuff.

It took me years to actually get into the water, I was having so much fun just flying kites. Bob Dawson had to push me into the dirty Botany bay water. I haven't changed, still don't like getting wet..

paul Crawford was the first on the water going upwind and Jumping, I have the footage !!

the bay is so much cleaner now !!

I bought my first kites from Bob just before steve opened the shop at Coogee.

if you guys treat me nice and are interested I could work on the Video 8 stuff or just forget about kite footage all together.

Up to you guys??

Uploading today!!

milko
NSW, 604 posts
13 Apr 2009 11:14AM
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I would like to see that footage alex.. i for one have never bagged you or given you red thumbs on any of your posts.. judging by the crap you cop on this site i think thats being nice so upload away..

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
13 Apr 2009 11:27AM
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milko said...

I would like to see that footage alex.. i for one have never bagged you or given you red thumbs on any of your posts.. judging by the crap you cop on this site i think thats being nice so upload away..


Yes Alex is a lovely man and deserves our kudos and praise....

Gorgo
VIC, 5101 posts
13 Apr 2009 11:35AM
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In Melbourne in 1998 Dave Mitas and others were launching their Wipikas at Sandringham and riding down to St Kilda then getting a cab back to do it again. I'm guessing Alex and Dale were among the other guys.

Dave Mitas showed me a Wipika and thought I would be keen because of my paragliding background. I thought it was a piece of **** and a ripoff at $1500 and in July 1999 bought a 4m 4-line foil and taught myself to water start on a 9' surfboard. I even managed to get up and ride downwind (I gave that kite to a mate along with a plywood TT and he still uses it to mess around in the surf at Torquay.)

In October 1999 I bought a ConceptAir WaveEx 7.2, an allegedly relaunchable foil. It sort of relaunched, sometimes, and was a bastard to launch in the first place. I kited at every opportunity (and swam in more than I care to remember.)

On 24/12/99 I picked up my Stonker kite board and I got mine just after Dave Trewern got his. I remember him picking it up at SHQ on the beach with a massive grin on his face. I had to collect mine from Alex's flat because he was waiting for the paint to dry and I wanted it for the holidays. Dave T and Dave M had learned to kite in Hawaii and I believe they had lessons from one R. Naish.

In December 99 (or maybe January 2000) we had the championships at Carrum. I remember seeing Felix Pivec do a face plant landings on the beach and get dragged up into the dunes. I came 12th (out of 13 :( ) but got a mention on the ConceptAir web site as a team rider.

Alex sanz
NSW, 106 posts
13 Apr 2009 12:27PM
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I have the video of SHQ then they where down near the water and also have the footage of when they got broken into, funny selection of kites stolen??

treat me nice and I will look for it and upload!!

Ioz
WA, 493 posts
13 Apr 2009 10:52AM
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Choicey taught me how to kitesurf on the estuary in Mandarah (Western Australia)back in October 2000. (the year my second son was born)

Craig Rawson was working with him at this time and I thought they both had a nice act all the way back then.

I then brought my first kite , a Nash AR5 9.5M - Which I thought was absolutely huge and took it back to Bunbury, where I was the fist full time kiter on the estuary in Australind. (just North of Bunbury)

Every time I used to go out there and self launch myself with gnarly obstacles down wind of me - my heart was in my mouth and the adrenalin would start to pump. I spent endless hours out there kite surfing by myself till eventully perhaps 12 months afterwards some people started to join me.

These time spent kiting alone and trying to work it all out where very special to me.

This is when roughly Mary Littlewood from Delta Design in Margaret River (who now shapes for North) - would come up to join as to learn how to kite surf on the flat water before eventually taking the sport back down south to MR.

We need Choicey to get on line and give us his take on the start of kitesurfing in Western Australia,

also Youngy (mate) come on , give us your piece of history as well.

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
13 Apr 2009 12:47PM
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Kitepower Australia said...


When did you start kiting in WA with inflatos?
Was that the first place started kiting/

It would be great to hear from others that go way back to the beggining of kiting in oz?
Who else was there at the beggining/

Cya and

Goodwinds

McCurious



I dunno who was riding first inflatos WA. Rawson's or Mad Mick from Safety bay?

WA standouts in the day where all over the place.
When I blew in to WA I found these guys to ride with Craig Rawson, Andy Rawson, Mad Mick, Jason Lewis, Aaron Cockman, Ozzy, Marty, Marty littlewood stayed next door in Cairns to learn to kite, Leon Veale, Tim Carr, Shane Morris, Graeme, Jake n Teressa, Dan Anderson, Chris Plumbob, Colin Mcullick.

There's a couple more names I forgot but this was the normal crew at the bourbon windsurfing events.

Events were sponsored by Cougar Bourbon,It was like Mambo every second weekend through out summer, but with good wind....

juicerider
WA, 790 posts
13 Apr 2009 1:23PM
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For me there is a couple of people that have been missed in this thread that need mentioning.
While living on Maui in 95 i used to see Laird Hamilton ride from Hookipa downwind on a tow in surfboard and a flewifoil traction kite. He would end his run trying a jump on the way, usually at Sprecs wipe out horribly then have to wined up his lines and swim in, he would then hitch hike back upwind to do the same again.
It wasn't till 99 that i saw a guy at Margret river riding waves on a wake board and a home made foil kite that I realised this was a sport that was practical and not just for some extreme Hawaiian water man.
Any one know who this dude was at Margret's?

RayQ
WA, 635 posts
13 Apr 2009 1:34PM
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Ian Young should post on this, he would be the guy to ask for WA.
Pinaroo Point was one of the hubs of kiting in the early days, a hand full of guys, most of them windsurfers from out behind Little Island off Hillarys boat harbour bought Wipika and Naish two line kites AR3,5 I think and about 6m was the size .This would have been 1999. A few guys from scarboro and all over the place started to come up to Pinnaroo to find other kiters for company.
Pioneers from back then: VBman, Peter Hookam, Louis Duplesis, Dave Casserly, Steve Batchelor, Steve Deleigh

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
13 Apr 2009 1:40PM
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juicerider said...


It wasn't till 99 that i saw a guy at Margret river riding waves on a wake board and a home made foil kite that I realised this was a sport that was practical and not just for some extreme Hawaiian water man.
Any one know who this dude was at Margret's?


Nice thread when the egos and advertising dissipitate.

I remember the same.
Saw this guy on a red foil, hammering towards these huge sets boosting like mad wiping out getting drilled then going again.
Whoever he was inspired me to get a kite about two years later.

13 Apr 2009 3:55PM
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juicerider said...

For me there is a couple of people that have been missed in this thread that need mentioning.
While living on Maui in 95 i used to see Laird Hamilton ride from Hookipa downwind on a tow in surfboard and a flewifoil traction kite. He would end his run trying a jump on the way, usually at Sprecs wipe out horribly then have to wined up his lines and swim in, he would then hitch hike back upwind to do the same again.
It wasn't till 99 that i saw a guy at Margret river riding waves on a wake board and a home made foil kite that I realised this was a sport that was practical and not just for some extreme Hawaiian water man.
Any one know who this dude was at Margret's?


Aaron Cockman??
Pretty sure he was riding Fone foils and he did ride boots in the surf in the early days.
Anyone know if he still kites?

@PR
It started out a good thread and still is, maybe it went sideways a bit nothing new on this forum.
You see what you want to see, egos-takes one to see one.
Advertising - dig a hole and stick your head in it, its everywhere, look at the top banner here, yammy boat motors, whatever.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
13 Apr 2009 2:18PM
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Kitepower Australia

claimers and the facts - a short history lesson"


Whats your motivation with a title like that ?

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
13 Apr 2009 2:25PM
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Yeh Aaron is still kiting.
He called not that long ago chasing a 7m OS for charging Margs but unfortunately I was sold out.

ianyoung
WA, 649 posts
13 Apr 2009 2:32PM
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Around 1990 I made a small delta kite with floats on the cross-bar and some small lead weights on the wing-tips - sort-of relaunched off the water but didn't think it was worth making a big one.

1993 came across Cory Roeseler's Kiteski water relaunchable waterski system and I finally bought one in 1997. 1998 Bruno Legaignoux asked me to distribute Wipika but I refused to dump Kiteski so Matt Colefax got the gig. I bought my first Wipika from Matt later that year - never sold a single Kiteski LOL.

Over the years I've flown some custom kites made by Neil Taylor and Bob Dawson, Peter Lynn Waterfoils, C-Quads and Arcs, F-One foils, Concept Airs, Flysurfer and most common inflatables. Made a variety of custom boards with Murray Smith and Dave Lewis from 1997 onwards.

Raphael Salles (owner of F-One) and I were the first to kite Margaret River in 1999 and got Aaron Cockman, Marty Littlewood and a few other locals interested in the sport.





http://members.iinet.net.au/~ianyoung/profile_kite.html



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