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Created by stjepan > 9 months ago, 24 Nov 2010
stjepan
NSW, 124 posts
24 Nov 2010 3:15AM
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which company is doing it wright and which are just doing it poo

Rhys McClintock
NSW, 995 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:11AM
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Ozone and Slingshot - No pulleys...

jackgearo
NSW, 331 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:45AM
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what the ****!!! just about all the brands i can think of are making a c kite,.....with no pulleys

philmb
WA, 110 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:40AM
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Rhys Porter said...

Ozone and Slingshot - No pulleys...


Agreed, love the Rally's bridal.

Wisha
SA, 255 posts
24 Nov 2010 3:56PM
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Going to have to disagree. Kites without pulleys will never be able to adapt to wind gusts, bar changes and turn without distorting the canopy as well as a kite with pulleys.

I would say the brands that get it right are the ones making pulleys with safety/ back up systems should the pulley brake (Saw them on the new Naish kites, other brands??)

Predominant unhooked riders would like a kite without pulleys as the inefficiency in the kite to adjust and grab the wind at certain angles is not as good, creating 'slack' for handle passes etc. With some possible canopy flapping, jellyfishing, less bottom end as a trade off.

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
24 Nov 2010 1:30PM
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Wisha said...

Going to have to disagree. Kites without pulleys will never be able to adapt to wind gusts, bar changes and turn without distorting the canopy as well as a kite with pulleys.

I would say the brands that get it right are the ones making pulleys with safety/ back up systems should the pulley brake (Saw them on the new Naish kites, other brands??)

Predominant unhooked riders would like a kite without pulleys as the inefficiency in the kite to adjust and grab the wind at certain angles is not as good, creating 'slack' for handle passes etc. With some possible canopy flapping, jellyfishing, less bottom end as a trade off.


oh ok... thats why when i ride the airush razor i can ride faster, jump higher and ride in just as light winds (ON A REAL WAKEBOARD) as everyone else (same kite size +- 1m) with their bow bridle pulley kites?

you can hardly say a C kite, which has better forward speed through the window, better turning speed, better boosting, better pop etc has more 'inefficiency' which makes it better for top end riding? riiiighto then hero...

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
24 Nov 2010 3:40PM
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Wisha said...

With some possible canopy flapping, jellyfishing, less bottom end as a trade off.


what? have you ever flown a C kite?

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
24 Nov 2010 4:48PM
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which company is doing it wright and which are just doing it poo




stevo....that will teach about buying 2nd hand dodgey kites from your dodgey mates down south!! there was nothing wrong with your 02 liquid force!!!
the worlds most powerful 10m if i remember correctly!!

Wisha
SA, 255 posts
24 Nov 2010 5:58PM
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whoa, touchy!

Wasnt talking about pure C-Kites (thought we are talking about bridled kites?).
So simply- pulleys will be smoother, adapt to gusts better (it's just physics, sorry boys can do much about that). However, they will continue to pull through unhooked tricks. So choose your kite accordingly. Surely that cant upset anyone. Probably will, cracks me up.

Dont want to get off topic that Stjepan started, but in response to the 'angrys'..
yep, C-kites serve their purpose extremely well. Had a SS Octane (the original C-kite version), thought it was great. Also like the Fuels, Torch etc. No doubt if unhooked is your thing then this is the way to go. Fair chance I will be back on one in the future. But since I'm getting on, I currently like delta C's as they give you a bit of both worlds and only needing to pump up a 9m kite in 12 knots appeals to me. If you can still ride, jump, unhook without stalling in 12 knots on a 9m /10m Razor, then I'm keen to give it a crack!

Back on topic. Companies who are doing it right are those who are making bridled kites safe. Clearly I personally like pulleys on "bridled kites". I have seen Naish use a new safety pulley, I dont ride them, but I think they are doing it right!

orynoco
QLD, 271 posts
24 Nov 2010 8:32PM
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GET A WAINMAN KIKE!!!!!

TAKE OFF THE BRIDAL AND GO SINGLE LINE.

YOU'LL NEVER LOOK BACK.

SOAK'S UP THE GUSTS, TURNS ON A DIME!!!

SAY NO MORE!!

Morg
QLD, 129 posts
24 Nov 2010 8:47PM
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The brand that has it right is the brand I'm having fun on. Don't care what the setup is as long as I come in with a grin and in one piece.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:07PM
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Morg said...

The brand that has it right is the brand I'm having fun on. Don't care what the setup is as long as I come in with a grin and in one piece.


These threads suck in the one eyed brand pimps.

I totally agree with this post.

It's all about the smile!

Everyone seems to be getting the bridles right on this year's kites.

hydra
SA, 254 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:56PM
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Wisha said...

Going to have to disagree. Kites without pulleys will never be able to adapt to wind gusts, bar changes and turn without distorting the canopy as well as a kite with pulleys.

I would say the brands that get it right are the ones making pulleys with safety/ back up systems should the pulley brake (Saw them on the new Naish kites, other brands??)

Predominant unhooked riders would like a kite without pulleys as the inefficiency in the kite to adjust and grab the wind at certain angles is not as good, creating 'slack' for handle passes etc. With some possible canopy flapping, jellyfishing, less bottom end as a trade off.



imo, more kites are doing away with the pulleys, i think no pulleys creates a more direct feel and once you fly a kite without them, you wont go back. i fly a kite with bridal and no pulleys, and does none of the things you described, and has a very strong bottom end.
why bother with the expense, and inconvinience of more maintanance?



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