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bladder repair for 9m 2012 drifter

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Created by Peahi > 9 months ago, 18 Mar 2015
Peahi
VIC, 1481 posts
18 Mar 2015 9:22PM
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does anyone know if a 2013 bladder set would fit a 2012 drifter, seems I got sent the wrong set sent to me by the shop. failing that does anyone know if the valve on the LE bladder can be re glued? Any info/advice appreciated.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
18 Mar 2015 7:33PM
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what did they send you, check serial no and the should be a hint to what model, if its the same size you should be close, ie drifter but using switchblade,, a chaos model wouldn't due to profile, struts would be fine imo its the le , lay out your old one and check valve to strut positions, if they are similar you should get away with it, but id get the original

windreams
QLD, 258 posts
18 Mar 2015 10:11PM
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Agree with cauncy, I’d be sending it back and getting the original… I’ve used this type of stick on valve with success… just check yours for the correct size.

www.kitepower.com.au/collections/kitesurfing

Peahi
VIC, 1481 posts
19 Mar 2015 10:52AM
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Model KS3RDF090 translates to a 2013 drifter bladder set. I am def going to return it, but was hoping it might fit as the 2013 valve is better/easier to use.

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
19 Mar 2015 7:59AM
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HighzaKite said...
does anyone know if a 2013 bladder set would fit a 2012 drifter, seems I got sent the wrong set sent to me by the shop. failing that does anyone know if the valve on the LE bladder can be re glued? Any info/advice appreciated.


Your local shop where you bought it from would gladly exchange this if they/you made a mistake.

19 Mar 2015 11:03AM
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I know the switchblade bladders fit between a bunch of years (2010 - 2012 and 2013 - 2015 if i recall correctly) but not sure if it is the same for the drifter.

Easiest way is to lay the bladder out on top of the kite. as long as the distance between the strut valves on the new bladder are not shorter than the valves on the kite, and they are all in the same position, it will fit fine.


Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
19 Mar 2015 3:28PM
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If worst comes to the worst, do it from scratch.

I've re-built a LE bladder from scratch (thanks to Kitepower tips and advice) once and it was not that hard. You just have to be patient and careful, as mistakes are almost impossible to redo or fix.

Most commercial bladders come in various sizes and you'll be able to find the right one that's closest to the length and width of your bladder.

Take your LE bladder completely out to be sure. There are a few videos on how to do this. Having the LE on the ground flat will allow you to measure it properly and purchase the right sized bladder. Kitepower sell Tuff bladders which are 30% stronger than conventional bladders.

Lay the new bladder next to the old one and with a felt pen mark the spots where the valves go.

Purchase the amount of stick-on valves you require including the pump and dump valves (if needed). You may be able to re-use the old pump valve from your old LE bladder by steaming the valve area with a kettle and pulling it apart gently.

Next, cut out the holes. Be careful not to cut over to the other side! A trick I use is to separate both sides of the LE bladder by making a very tiny incision on one of the valve spots and blowing air into it using your pump. This will separate the bladder apart and allow you to cut the holes. The holes themselves is best done with a 20cent coin and a sharp stanley knife. But make sure you've slipped a piece of perspex or some hard surface to cut the bladder on, otherwise you'll cut across to the other side.

Once all the holes are done, again lay the bladder flat next to the old one and start placing your stick on valves one by one, making sure the nozels all point the same say as the originals. Note that the common stick-on valve replacements have a different diameter seat than the original Cabrinha valves. If that's the case you're going to have to come up with a technique to cut out some plastic material to slip over the valve and place inside the canopy of the LE of the kite to compensate any gaps. Any gaps that show up once you've put the bladder back in need to be sealed otherwise you could easily pop the LE bladder.

The rest is a matter of inserting the bladder into the kite as shown on numerous videos and gently pumping her up.

Test for possible leaks by soaking all of the leading edge with a bottle of soapy water.

Good luck!

Peahi
VIC, 1481 posts
20 Mar 2015 10:34PM
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HighzaKite said..
Model KS3RDF090 translates to a 2013 drifter bladder set. I am def going to return it, but was hoping it might fit as the 2013 valve is better/easier to use.


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Kitepower Australia said..
I know the switchblade bladders fit between a bunch of years (2010 - 2012 and 2013 - 2015 if i recall correctly) but not sure if it is the same for the drifter.



thanks all. apparently all drifters are the same so I should be OK. weekend job coming up.

flyingcab
VIC, 942 posts
27 Apr 2015 6:35PM
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Loftywinds said..
If worst comes to the worst, do it from scratch.

I've re-built a LE bladder from scratch (thanks to Kitepower tips and advice) once and it was not that hard. You just have to be patient and careful, as mistakes are almost impossible to redo or fix.

Most commercial bladders come in various sizes and you'll be able to find the right one that's closest to the length and width of your bladder.

Take your LE bladder completely out to be sure. There are a few videos on how to do this. Having the LE on the ground flat will allow you to measure it properly and purchase the right sized bladder. Kitepower sell Tuff bladders which are 30% stronger than conventional bladders.

Lay the new bladder next to the old one and with a felt pen mark the spots where the valves go.

Purchase the amount of stick-on valves you require including the pump and dump valves (if needed). You may be able to re-use the old pump valve from your old LE bladder by steaming the valve area with a kettle and pulling it apart gently.

Next, cut out the holes. Be careful not to cut over to the other side! A trick I use is to separate both sides of the LE bladder by making a very tiny incision on one of the valve spots and blowing air into it using your pump. This will separate the bladder apart and allow you to cut the holes. The holes themselves is best done with a 20cent coin and a sharp stanley knife. But make sure you've slipped a piece of perspex or some hard surface to cut the bladder on, otherwise you'll cut across to the other side.

Once all the holes are done, again lay the bladder flat next to the old one and start placing your stick on valves one by one, making sure the nozels all point the same say as the originals. Note that the common stick-on valve replacements have a different diameter seat than the original Cabrinha valves. If that's the case you're going to have to come up with a technique to cut out some plastic material to slip over the valve and place inside the canopy of the LE of the kite to compensate any gaps. Any gaps that show up once you've put the bladder back in need to be sealed otherwise you could easily pop the LE bladder.

The rest is a matter of inserting the bladder into the kite as shown on numerous videos and gently pumping her up.

Test for possible leaks by soaking all of the leading edge with a bottle of soapy water.

Good luck!



I found the Lofty digging up some old threads!

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
3 May 2015 10:41AM
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flyingcab said..

Loftywinds said..
If worst comes to the worst, do it from scratch.

I've re-built a LE bladder from scratch (thanks to Kitepower tips and advice) once and it was not that hard. You just have to be patient and careful, as mistakes are almost impossible to redo or fix.

Most commercial bladders come in various sizes and you'll be able to find the right one that's closest to the length and width of your bladder.

Take your LE bladder completely out to be sure. There are a few videos on how to do this. Having the LE on the ground flat will allow you to measure it properly and purchase the right sized bladder. Kitepower sell Tuff bladders which are 30% stronger than conventional bladders.

Lay the new bladder next to the old one and with a felt pen mark the spots where the valves go.

Purchase the amount of stick-on valves you require including the pump and dump valves (if needed). You may be able to re-use the old pump valve from your old LE bladder by steaming the valve area with a kettle and pulling it apart gently.

Next, cut out the holes. Be careful not to cut over to the other side! A trick I use is to separate both sides of the LE bladder by making a very tiny incision on one of the valve spots and blowing air into it using your pump. This will separate the bladder apart and allow you to cut the holes. The holes themselves is best done with a 20cent coin and a sharp stanley knife. But make sure you've slipped a piece of perspex or some hard surface to cut the bladder on, otherwise you'll cut across to the other side.

Once all the holes are done, again lay the bladder flat next to the old one and start placing your stick on valves one by one, making sure the nozels all point the same say as the originals. Note that the common stick-on valve replacements have a different diameter seat than the original Cabrinha valves. If that's the case you're going to have to come up with a technique to cut out some plastic material to slip over the valve and place inside the canopy of the LE of the kite to compensate any gaps. Any gaps that show up once you've put the bladder back in need to be sealed otherwise you could easily pop the LE bladder.

The rest is a matter of inserting the bladder into the kite as shown on numerous videos and gently pumping her up.

Test for possible leaks by soaking all of the leading edge with a bottle of soapy water.

Good luck!




I found the Lofty digging up some old threads!


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