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bindings - need advice

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Created by BOOMAN > 9 months ago, 20 Jan 2009
BOOMAN
VIC, 333 posts
20 Jan 2009 8:28PM
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got a new underground board but the bindings are't doing it 4 me, easly slip out.
I bought some cabrinha laceups which dont seem any good either.

I have size 13 feet long and narrow...

any ideas whats good. and anyone want a set of carbinha laceups used fopr 20 min

TheChad
QLD, 142 posts
20 Jan 2009 7:35PM
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if you want to be held in, get some boots with moldable liners.

I got some ronix scouts when our dollar was nearly on par with the US dollar.
They were cheap as, and yet they still hold you in nicely and are super comfy.

BOOMAN
VIC, 333 posts
21 Jan 2009 12:55AM
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like wakeboard bindings/boots?

2 things I should of mentioned
1- worried about knees and i hear wakebindings drill them
2- when I wakeboard after 30min the top of my foot aches like sweet zombie jesus! this also happened a bit with those cabrinha laceups. Not sure what causes it maybe someone out there knows. prob to tight around my foot BUT I dont want to slip out. any advice would be greatly appriciated.

TheChad
QLD, 142 posts
21 Jan 2009 12:02AM
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yeah wakeboard bindings,

if you have nice boots like slingshot, ronix and good liquid force stuff and they are the right size your feet shouldn't hurt at all.

With a well fitted closed-toe boot you wont have to do them up tight either.
It's amazing how much better it feels not having to think about keeping ya feet in.

As long as your stance isnt to wide your knees should be fine.
In fact they will probably be better, nothing worse than one foot in one foot out!!

hoskoau
NSW, 100 posts
21 Jan 2009 1:03AM
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BOOMAN said...
I have size 13 feet long and narrow...


I have the same size feet and narrow as well. I have found the Cabrinha Sync backless bindings really hold my feet in. Is that what you have tried??

JAKE123
QLD, 313 posts
21 Jan 2009 2:56AM
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i wanna know whether you guys recon i should go with LF synergy boots. or get the velcro limited edition shanes or similar.

what has better hold and ease of entry

milko
NSW, 604 posts
21 Jan 2009 11:51AM
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i have just been through exactly the same frustration.. then i put my underground straps on my cab lace up bases and that is working really well for my size 13s.. try that combo.

YoMoFo
NSW, 240 posts
21 Jan 2009 12:34PM
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I was gunna let this slide but.... 1st of all, bindings are wakeboard/kiteboarding boots. Straps are straps! backless, frontless, d!#kless whatever. Yeah some dudes do knees in boots but you'll find more riders will strain ankles in straps.

Closed toe boots are cool but its hard to keep the sand out em. The synergy are suppose to be good but I haven't seen em yet.

stompinlife
NT, 22 posts
21 Jan 2009 12:58PM
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i have LF unions cant get out of them if i tried.... but any brand is good as long as there light and fit well... and if your knees are hurting id be looking at your stance...

andrewm
WA, 243 posts
21 Jan 2009 1:28PM
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I am thinking of bindings as well.

Can I put them on a nobile 555 134X41?

Is there much of a difference unhooked / handlepass wise with bindings? Do they take a long time to get used to?

I am recovering from a knee fracture, but have always been into wakestyle. Not sure if going bindings is a good idea but keen to try.

timmm
WA, 55 posts
21 Jan 2009 2:24PM
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i am pretty sure you can't put bindings on a nobile 555.
they have a special kind of thread if i remember that got me into trouble.

the wake bindings eg ronix or liquid force escalades etc. are MUCH heavier than the kite bindings eg. unions.

but they look sooo much sexier(specially the new closed toe ronix's!!!!!)

makes no difference HP'ing, and they won't make you a better rider....but they do allow you to stomp harder landings tho! IMO

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
21 Jan 2009 4:38PM
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pretty keen to try bindings as well...had a look at a few which were recommended..but I cant think of anything worse than putting my feet in those for a few hours on a hot day at the beach.....is this ever an issue ?

as someone else mentioned sand...... is this ever an issue ?

walshd
SA, 601 posts
21 Jan 2009 4:23PM
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timmm said...

i am pretty sure you can't put bindings on a nobile 555.
they have a special kind of thread if i remember that got me into trouble.


Should have worked. Standard inserts in boards are either 6mm metric or 1/4" imperial from memory. They look the same but are different threads.

Most wake boots come with imperial screws (damn americans, stupid imperial system!!)

Just make sure you check the spacing between the inserts will fit the boots you want to try

koma
VIC, 760 posts
21 Jan 2009 5:49PM
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Same size feet and i'm riding with the small Cabrinha Sync's.
I've found it's just a matter of adjusting both the upper and lower lace to be really tight, then doing a knot just above the stupid plastic sliding 'lock' (that doesn't actually lock).
Aside from that, the Liquid Force Comp Lace's are also pretty damn good.

Have you thought about using a heel strap?

fozzy
SA, 501 posts
21 Jan 2009 7:56PM
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harry potter said...

pretty keen to try bindings as well...had a look at a few which were recommended..but I cant think of anything worse than putting my feet in those for a few hours on a hot day at the beach.....is this ever an issue ?

as someone else mentioned sand...... is this ever an issue ?


Hot feet? Dude you're on water for one thing. How hot do your feet get when you wear shoes on a hot day. Hot enough to notice, I doubt it.

Sand can be an issue for closed toe boots. Open toe no problems. A lot of dudes in colder climates like closed toe for a bit of warmth. That said, plenty in Aus that ride closed toe as well. Personal preference.

Sounds like quite a few people thinking about going for bindings. My advice is just do it. However, if you're not keen to simply commit then see if you can get a ride, but a couple of things first.

Bindings make certain tricks a little harder, extra weight etc.

It's best if you ride them a couple of times. One session might give you a slight appreciation but it's best to get a couple in to get the real feel for them.

YoMoFo is bang on with what he said.

Synergy bindings are sweet. They have replaced the escalades. Unions are very easy in and out.

franz ferari
QLD, 63 posts
21 Jan 2009 7:49PM
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synergys are good but the shanes or sovens are better, sand in closed toes what a load i've been wearing closed toes for three years no problem with sand at all. If you want to try some let me know can demo them at gold coast. or any of the new 09 liquid force gear is available for demo at gold coast call tony 0427826114

hood rat
QLD, 56 posts
21 Jan 2009 9:16PM
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hot feet hahaha maybe if u kited in a volcano.

and if u do close toe boots up tight they barely ever get off which means sand isnt a problem. good to see alot of people wanting to try boots, definatley worth the try.

BOOMAN
VIC, 333 posts
21 Jan 2009 11:25PM
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Thanks for all the input honestly I still dont know what to do though. I may have wasted 150 bucks on the sync's, Is anyone else having the same issue as far as feet slipping out and/or making there feet ache?. I might mix and match with the sync's pads and underground bindings/pads. cheers for all the insite

NumNutz
QLD, 403 posts
22 Jan 2009 12:42AM
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have to wear socks so they dont smell

franz ferari
QLD, 63 posts
22 Jan 2009 9:13AM
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twigs has spare socks

hood rat
QLD, 56 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:00AM
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whos twigs? i once knew a twigs that used to sail and wore footy socks up to his titties, havent seen much of that young girl in a while im pretty sure he conquered kiteboarding and is done with the sport

bargearse
QLD, 148 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:04PM
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I've got these old bindings (hyperlite moon boots) who'd of thunk they were worth $350 - $400 back in the 90's!

Was thinking of throwing them on my jaime pro for a go. Do you reckon they'll be allright?

Also the wakeboard they are on is also a bit old school



But might be good for kiting when the wind's up? I'm 84kg's. Whadya reckon would be better the wakeboard or the jaime pro?

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:59PM
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you might want to check that the hyperlite plates fit the north board before you do anything

YoMoFo
NSW, 240 posts
23 Jan 2009 2:26PM
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I'd be hanging that stuff on the wall. Prob not good 4 kiting

franz ferari
QLD, 63 posts
23 Jan 2009 4:22PM
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twigs told me he conqured kite boarding and has moved onto roller blading

BOOMAN
VIC, 333 posts
25 Jan 2009 12:39PM
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I just went on to liquid forse site those synergy boots are $599.85 sweet zombie jesus

andyy
QLD, 232 posts
26 Jan 2009 3:04AM
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Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

NumNutz
QLD, 403 posts
26 Jan 2009 3:22AM
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andy once wore his bindings to lunchtime

andyy
QLD, 232 posts
26 Jan 2009 3:55AM
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26 Jan 2009 10:09AM
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BOOMAN said...

like wakeboard bindings/boots?

2 things I should of mentioned
1- worried about knees and i hear wakebindings drill them
2- when I wakeboard after 30min the top of my foot aches like sweet zombie jesus! this also happened a bit with those cabrinha laceups. Not sure what causes it maybe someone out there knows. prob to tight around my foot BUT I dont want to slip out. any advice would be greatly appriciated.



You've got the Sync's done up too tight. Its a common mistake I hear about and I did it too at the start, but they are so much more comfortable than anything else I have tried, now that I have them set loose.
Try them again, wet them and do them up tight so they are contacting as much as your foot as possible, then loosen them off until you can get your feet in them quickly and easily, tie a knot behind the adjuster and go ride for a while, see if that changes your mind.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

SurfConnect
QLD, 1674 posts
26 Jan 2009 9:12AM
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Kite bindings you cant go wrong with LF's Unions or Synergy. The Synergy replaced the Escalades this year, super light weight, super comfy you would not want to take your feet out of! The Unions is well known as one if not the most reliable boots for kiteboarding. It has no lace or moving parts, get in single-handed! We will take your carbs in as part-exchange.


BOOMAN said...

got a new underground board but the bindings are't doing it 4 me, easly slip out.
I bought some cabrinha laceups which dont seem any good either.

I have size 13 feet long and narrow...

any ideas whats good. and anyone want a set of carbinha laceups used fopr 20 min






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