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anemometer.. think i got ripped off

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Created by Smedg > 9 months ago, 5 Aug 2008
Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
5 Aug 2008 9:47PM
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Man just got a $40 wind gauge off good old ebay... took it to the beach in what i estimated to be at very least 15 knots.. highest reading i could get was 4 knots.... actually had an awesome session but man l hate getting ripped off. was looking forward to being able to better judge those light wind days....

Anyone else found the same thing or did i just get a sh**ty one?

Ben De Jonge
WA, 819 posts
5 Aug 2008 8:31PM
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In my humble opinion, wind gauges are one bit of gear you just don't need.

You can always estimate close enough what it's blowing, and if you can't, you soon will be able to - like you said, you already knew it was 12-15kn.

Wind gauges are for geeks and gear freaks only.

Neill
VIC, 484 posts
5 Aug 2008 10:32PM
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It's the special "flysurfer version" windmeter

now you can say your flysurfer is keeping you upwind in 0.8 knots - with video evidence

milko
NSW, 604 posts
6 Aug 2008 7:04AM
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my anemometer has an average wind setting so if its blowing 15 knts and its been sitting in your pocket for a minute it will show about 4 knts.. check that.

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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6 Aug 2008 9:28AM
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Hi Smedg,

A wind meter is a nice bit of gear for use when you need exact wind speeds for kite reviews and if you are in areas which do not show wind on the water well, like Augusta or any sort of mountainboarding on Terra Firma.

A good quality anemometer like the Windtronics 2 is a precise measuring instrument and not something I'd buy second hand from e-bay. It must be kept clean and in it's case so it doesn't get sand or crap into it to keep it accurate.

We use anemometers in the school for confirmation of upper and lower wind strengths although I can usually tell the wind speed to within a couple of knots by looking at the water.

Beginners who have no experience with wind or water sports need wind meters to judge the wind strengths until they get experience. They get that experience by looking at the read out and then at the water to get a visual indication or reference of what 20 knots looks like. Saying they are for geeks and freaks is a bit harsh don't you think Ben?

When buying wind meters, you get what you pay for and the better quality ones use a paddle wheel type impellor with the little half cups, not the fan impellors types. Such as the windtronics kiteboardingschool.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=32&category_id=11&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=84

Most other cheaper ones like the ball in the tube type are within 5 knots wind speed which is not good enough, but if you pay $40, thats about the quality you get.

Good winds,



Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
6 Aug 2008 4:55PM
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Thanks for the help. I did have it on average but think i had only just turned it on. Ill check next time. it is a cheap 'fan impellor' type. current thinking is to know exact wind speed required to keep kite in the air (still). Then when ever there is this bare minimum, that enough motivation for me to set up for a down winder. Otherwise won't bother unpacking. pretty sure i gauge the wind ok as am always kiting with others but there have just been a lot of days this winter where i've been standing there thinking hmmmm is it worth it...its almost enough... or just going for it, drenching the kite and packing up wet and misserable..

thanks again for the help

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
6 Aug 2008 5:24PM
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As I have got more experienced I have relied less and less on what the screen tells me and what I feel. I don't think I actually know where my Skywatch is at the moment. That said, its handy to know what the gusts are sometimes.

vader
NSW, 418 posts
6 Aug 2008 5:29PM
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yeah i think ben needs to come to aus and chill out. i luv gadgets and i`m not a geek or a freek . just ask my mummy. ha ha

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
6 Aug 2008 5:30PM
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Kitehard said...

Hi Smedg,

When buying wind meters, you get what you pay for and the better quality ones use a paddle wheel type impellor with the little half cups, not the fan impellors types.




I wouldn't say that is what makes a good or bad meter. Like you said you get what you pay for. The only difference is with the fan looking impellor types need to be pointed at the wind to give an accurate reading.

These are the most accurate ones I know of- http://www.jdcusa.com/products/omnidirectional.html

But these are more than sufficient for kiteboarders- www.jdcusa.com/products/xplorers.html

Jason

crakas
QLD, 462 posts
6 Aug 2008 7:07PM
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Have to admit that I am a big fan of the anemometer. Most the time you can tell the wind speed, but it is nice to have a accurate indication of what the wind is actually doing…gusts, lows and average wind speeds, so you can make a safer decision on what kite to put up. Also when you get strong winds that you do not usually experience …it would be safer using an anemometer to read the wind than make a guess…

I can vouch for how well the explorer anemometers work as I have purchased two from BrisKites, the second was because I lost the first… Pretty accurate, spends its time sliding around in the door pocket of my ute with all sorts of other crap and always works…so easy to operate that my son uses it to measures the wind coming out of the air-con ducts...

Cheers,

Barrie

Ben De Jonge
WA, 819 posts
6 Aug 2008 6:45PM
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I am coming back to Aus!!! Can't wait.

I still think you don't need them though. You can always tell by the water, the sand, the trees and what other people are flying in about 2 minutes. And that little bit of a question mark as to whether or not you are over gunning it while you pump up, just adds to the pre-session rush.

Geeks and freaks - I stand by that.

Jacques
NSW, 159 posts
8 Aug 2008 2:40PM
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crakas said...

Have to admit that I am a big fan of the anemometer. Most the time you can tell the wind speed, but it is nice to have a accurate indication of what the wind is actually doing…gusts, lows and average wind speeds, so you can make a safer decision on what kite to put up. Also when you get strong winds that you do not usually experience …it would be safer using an anemometer to read the wind than make a guess…

I agree with you. I don't use mine very often, but the funny thing is when I use it, people usually come and ask how much there is... (probably the same kind of people who say they don't need one )

a good way to see if your windmeter is properly set up is to drive the car on a calm day, let's say at 10km/h and hold the windmeter outside the window... and surprisingly enough it should read 10km/h...

cheers
Jacques

nickloop
WA, 138 posts
8 Aug 2008 8:05PM
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check that fan on top of meter is pushed down, mine sometimes works it way up out of meter.underneath blades is a fat bit that goes into body of meter, get fingernails on this and push it down. mine Once read 15mph when it was in fact over 30mph.

echostorm
QLD, 1245 posts
8 Aug 2008 10:25PM
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Why bother with these stupid contraptions!!! Seriously!!!! Learn how to read nature instead, from the noise of the leaves, to the movement of them, to the type of tree and the branches flex, to the volume in your ears, the press on your face, the whitecaps, the sand blowing on the beach, the flex of the surf lifesavers flag, smoke... the list goes on.

With practise you can acurately read wind by the feel of it on your face.

Why 'prove' conditions to others anyway? Who really cares that you went out in megastrong or light wind? You and the crew you were with know in your own mind how epic a session was, it is still a story and if people dont believe you then there might be some other issues you need to work on in the relationship with your friends. Honesty gets you a long way, bullsh1t begets bullsh1t.

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
9 Aug 2008 12:04AM
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some down to earth tree huggin hippie advice eco. thanks. I'll take that on board.

au_rick
WA, 752 posts
11 Aug 2008 12:01PM
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doesn't matter how good or bad quality an anemometer is as long as it's consistent in it's readings.
basically, you dial the wind reading in to your experience on the water and then use that as the yardstick for the day.

mine may not be reading the "true" wind speed but I know if it says 12+ then it's kiteable, if it's reading 20+ kts its a small kite day.

I've seen mates pump up and tell me there's enough wind when my meter is telling me its barley 10kts and they are wasting their time, every time

BrisKites
QLD, 1292 posts
11 Aug 2008 2:19PM
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au_rick said...

doesn't matter how good or bad quality an anemometer is as long as it's consistent in it's readings.


Hit the nail on the head here rick.
As long as it gives consistent readings the numbers are just that, numbers.

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
11 Aug 2008 5:37PM
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BrisKites said...

au_rick said...

doesn't matter how good or bad quality an anemometer is as long as it's consistent in it's readings.


Hit the nail on the head here rick.
As long as it gives consistent readings the numbers are just that, numbers.




Hmm but if its reading 4 knots when its blowing 15 to 17 then the scale is going to be a lot less helpful. ie difference of one knot reading might be actual difference of 4 knots. If that is the case i am better off with out it. last couple of sessions wind has been great so i'm yet to test it further. thanks again for everyone's help.

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
12 Aug 2008 9:51AM
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I had never used on when I was back home in WA, but the wind here is SH**E and because there are different trees, no waves, the sand isn't as fine and varies in how coarse it is even from beach to beach, I got one and swear by it. I call it my 'Truth Meter' because on the days when you haven't been out for a month or two due to lack of wind and you drive to the beach, you almost need one. If for no other reason to talk yourself out of the old "Yeah, I don't think it was enough when I got here, but I think it's picked up a couple of knots since I did". Especially when almost nobody here kites so there's nearly never anyone else out.

D

echostorm
QLD, 1245 posts
13 Aug 2008 4:53PM
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D_Meredith79 said...

I had never used on when I was back home in WA, but the wind here is SH**E and because there are different trees, no waves, the sand isn't as fine and varies in how coarse it is even from beach to beach, I got one and swear by it. I call it my 'Truth Meter' because on the days when you haven't been out for a month or two due to lack of wind and you drive to the beach, you almost need one. If for no other reason to talk yourself out of the old "Yeah, I don't think it was enough when I got here, but I think it's picked up a couple of knots since I did". Especially when almost nobody here kites so there's nearly never anyone else out.

D




Whitecaps are the answer. Whitecaps = wind = yes i can kite today

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
15 Aug 2008 9:21AM
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echostorm said...

D_Meredith79 said...

I had never used on when I was back home in WA, but the wind here is SH**E and because there are different trees, no waves, the sand isn't as fine and varies in how coarse it is even from beach to beach, I got one and swear by it. I call it my 'Truth Meter' because on the days when you haven't been out for a month or two due to lack of wind and you drive to the beach, you almost need one. If for no other reason to talk yourself out of the old "Yeah, I don't think it was enough when I got here, but I think it's picked up a couple of knots since I did". Especially when almost nobody here kites so there's nearly never anyone else out.

D




Whitecaps are the answer. Whitecaps = wind = yes i can kite today


Sorry Echo, but even that one fails here at times. On the upside though, I'm headed home in 6 weeks so won't have to mess with the terrible wind here. Got SO desperate that went out in the wind coming in front of a thinderstorm and ended up dropping my kite 10 minutes before it hit which left me packing up in the Queenslandesque downpore and associated lightning and thunder.

D



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