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Which retailers stock Australian kites?

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Created by Lovely > 9 months ago, 26 Jun 2008
Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
26 Jun 2008 4:23PM
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Im wondering which shops support Australian kite brands like Catapult, New, Fluid and Monkey.
To tell you the truth I have never seen these kites in any shops.

Are there any other Australian brands I have missed out by mistake?

Jimmyz
NSW, 446 posts
26 Jun 2008 4:35PM
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I know BalmoralBoards in Narrabeen (NSW) do sell monkey kites... Which state are you in?

Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
26 Jun 2008 4:47PM
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Im in WA.
It would be interesting to list the retailers who support Australian stuff.

Kites
Balmoral boards NSW - Monkey kites
Kiwi Stonker VIC - Fluid kites
Windforce WA - Airush
AIrborne WA - Airush.
Margaret River kitesurfing WA - Airush
G SPot WA - Airush New
Kiwi Choice kitesurfing - New Best


Boards
Someone else needs to list the shops in the news section

Dezzi
WA, 25 posts
26 Jun 2008 3:13PM
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i think SOS in freo still make the addition kite boards so you could say they support an aussi brand

p.s. addiction rocks hard!!! they **** on all the big brand production boards!!!

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
26 Jun 2008 5:25PM
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There are a few board makers:

Cardboards - stocked by quite a few shops on the East Coast
Underground - same
Delta - West Coast

Have not seen any Aussie kite brands on the Sunshine Coast.

Dezzi
WA, 25 posts
26 Jun 2008 3:37PM
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underground is a NZ brand ya nugget

and i dont think delta make kiteboards anymore?? i know they still make some sick surfboards tho

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
26 Jun 2008 5:40PM
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stonker boards in torquay are aussie...i think they stock fluid kites too

Dezzi
WA, 25 posts
26 Jun 2008 3:48PM
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isnt stonker from NZ aswell??

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
26 Jun 2008 5:52PM
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i'm not sure but i think they started out in port melbourne years ago and then moved to torquay recently.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
26 Jun 2008 6:34PM
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Is this fluid
www.fluidkiteboarding.com/

TheChad
QLD, 142 posts
26 Jun 2008 6:52PM
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sunseeker said...

There are a few board makers:

Cardboards - stocked by quite a few shops on the East Coast
Underground - same
Delta - West Coast

Have not seen any Aussie kite brands on the Sunshine Coast.


what about these guys
m8kite.com/

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
26 Jun 2008 7:23PM
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Are there any kitesurfers out there that support Australian brands ?
(Initial poster forgot cardboards BTW)

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
26 Jun 2008 6:27PM
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Airush qualify as they have their design centre set up in WA - and directly employ 4 people in Australia. (not including distributors - add another job and a half for that)

In fact they are probably more aussie than any of the other so called aussie KITE brands by investment and spend in Australia. ie running a full time design loft and office in OZ , employing crew on full time basis, aussie team riders etc etc


as many of you are aware - ALL kites are made overseas.

Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
26 Jun 2008 8:58PM
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Wow Airush is Australian.

Wouldnt have known that. Seems like there's lots of Australian brand kites.

Damo
WA, 641 posts
26 Jun 2008 7:10PM
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what???
airush australian???? WTF?? isnt airush just a sisster company of starboard windsurfing wich is owned by a german dude??? and dont they have "design centre" set up in thiland and hawaii aswell?? so i guess you could also say they are thai and hawian. just cos they employ "4" guys (such as yourself matt) to sell kites in australia doesnt make them australian! they dont even employ an aussi to design thier kites anymore (no offence to the new ben cos he is a great guy)

i would have thought that NEW is way more aussie than airush as it is owned by an aussie and designed by an aussie that lives in oz.

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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26 Jun 2008 7:57PM
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Damo said...

what???
airush australian???? WTF?? isnt airush just a sisster company of starboard windsurfing wich is owned by a german dude??? and dont they have "design centre" set up in thiland and hawaii aswell?? so i guess you could also say they are thai and hawian. just cos they employ "4" guys (such as yourself matt) to sell kites in australia doesnt make them australian! they dont even employ an aussi to design thier kites anymore (no offence to the new ben cos he is a great guy)

i would have thought that NEW is way more aussie than airush as it is owned by an aussie and designed by an aussie that lives in oz.



Hey Damo,

I would qualify NEW as a more Australian product than Airush because their head office is here in WA. However, Airush do ALL of the design work right here in Perth in the loft in Osbourne Park. The loft employs Ben Severne, Benoir (Sorry don't know surname), Clinton Fillen and Mark Patterson whom all work on and design the Airush kites, bars, accessories and bags for Airush International. This includes the snow kites, trainer kites and all the regular Airush stuff like DNA, Flow, Vapor and Generator.

You are correct in that Airush is a sister company to Starboard and both are owned by Sven Rasmussen (I think Swiss German). Head office is in Thailand so I guess that makes it Swiss German owned but based in Thailand.

The Hawaii connection hasn't existed for several years since Sven bought out Airush USA and the name, which used to design the bars and other accessories before Airush made kites. Back in the day, all the top Pro riders were riding Airush bars and pulley bars.

Starboard have design lofts in Thailand for windsurfing gear. The Loft in Ozzie Park also does most of the design work for Flying Objects and also Severne Sails for windsurfing and there are several other guys who work in there on these other products.

So at least it has a healthy Aussie component, at least more Aussie than all the other top brands.

Good winds,


Damo
WA, 641 posts
26 Jun 2008 8:20PM
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Airush do ALL of the design work right here in Perth in the loft in Osbourne Park. The loft employs Ben Severne, Benoir (Sorry don't know surname), Clinton Fillen and Mark Patterson whom all work on and design the Airush kites, bars, accessories and bags for Airush International. This includes the snow kites, trainer kites and all the regular Airush stuff like DNA, Flow, Vapor and Generator.

they designe thier snow kites in WA? doesnt that make it a bit hard??? (must just be great designers i guess)

You are correct in that Airush is a sister company to Starboard and both are owned by Sven Rasmussen (I think Swiss German). Head office is in Thailand so I guess that makes it Swiss German owned but based in Thailand.


So at least it has a healthy Aussie component, at least more Aussie than all the other top brands.

Good winds,





all jokes and **** stiring aside i actually think its great to see airush doing so much here in OZ and i love kiteing with the guys when they come down to woodys. a great bunch of blokes heaps of fun and inspireing to see that they are doing what they are doing and doing it so well now too. some of the new proto types i have seen them flying at the beach have blowen my mind away. airush kites are coming along in leaps and bounds. keep it up fellas

and big ups to any kite brand that is supporting oz kiteboarding.

kitecrazzzy
WA, 2184 posts
26 Jun 2008 9:03PM
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Choice stocks NEW in perth

insomniac_alcoholic
WA, 190 posts
26 Jun 2008 10:32PM
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And G-Spot in Gero stock NEW as well.

(Waiting for my commision from both Tim and N8)

GreenPat
QLD, 4093 posts
27 Jun 2008 12:56AM
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What's this about design lofts? Do they work in some sort of attic? I design things too, but generally in an office or the study at home. This loft idea sounds great! Bohemian even. I suppose they'd still have plotters and light tables everywhere though, I wonder if they're interspersed with pot plants, quaint bookshelves and funny coloured lampshades? N8 do you have a loft?

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
26 Jun 2008 11:39PM
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Fellas

- just to clear up a few misconceptions.

As far as i know The head kite designer at Airush is PAtto - an Aussie. Top bloke.

Benoit (from france) does alot of the snow kite stuff -those designs get sent over to dedicated snow kiters in Europe / canada for feedback / r and d

Benoit also works with Patto on the core range . Benoit is a top bloke too.

He is employed full time here in oz. I imagine he has to shop for food and pay rent here in Australia.

there is also a very talented graphic designer that you forgot to mention working out of the loft.

I am not employed by Airush to sell their kites. However there are additional jobs created over and above those mentioned above via distributors / local agency marketing and retail. I havent included those in the estimate given above.

Readers can decide for themselves if thats Aussie enough for them.

The Flying objects brand has nothing to do with the design loft - it is entirely its own entity. tHowever If you havent tried an FO flight control harness or FO wetsuit yet - you dont know what you are missing!



to answer the original question- in WA Windforce and AIrborne kitesurfing stock Airush. Margaret River kitesurfing sells them at margs/ down south. G SPot in Gerro. Check the Airush website for stockists in other states.

And lastly - C kites still rock!


Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
27 Jun 2008 9:41AM
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When you break down the $ component of a kite sale then most of the money stays in Australia.
9% GST
25-30% Profit to retailer
10-25% Profit to wholesaler
?% transporting the kite around the place

0n a $1800 kite thats a total of at least $900 that stays here.

If companies like Airush employ people here then a larger proportion of $$ stays here and we should support these brands.

This is usually the last consideration when I buy a kite. Performance is first, price is second, colour is third, Aussie input is last. It's a shame really. Maybe I should give myself a swift kick up the rear.

At least I ride Cardboards.....conscience is at rest......



au_rick
WA, 752 posts
27 Jun 2008 9:51AM
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Bigwavedave said...

When you break down the $ component of a kite sale then most of the money stays in Australia.
9% GST
25-30% Profit to retailer
10-25% Profit to wholesaler
?% transporting the kite around the place

0n a $1800 kite thats a total of at least $900 that stays here.

If companies like Airush employ people here then a larger proportion of $$ stays here and we should support these brands.

This is usually the last consideration when I buy a kite. Performance is first, price is second, colour is third, Aussie input is last. It's a shame really. Maybe I should give myself a swift kick up the rear.

At least I ride Cardboards.....conscience is at rest......







It's just a shame so many ozzies bag Airush, also a shame that you can buy Airush kites overseas for half the Australian price, but then it's also cheaper to buy a USA made Bayliner in Australia than an equivalent Aussie boat (Haines / Seafarer) so go figure

Incidentally, Airush is all I fly, and Vapors rock !!


sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
27 Jun 2008 12:17PM
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Bigwavedave said...

This is usually the last consideration when I buy a kite. Performance is first, price is second, colour is third, Aussie input is last. It's a shame really. Maybe I should give myself a swift kick up the rear.



This is not a charity...it's a free market where performance should win. You should go for the best deal available. If that happens to be an Aussie brand then that's great. That's why Cardboards are doing so well - it's due to their exceptional product at the right price - nothing to do with the fact that they are Aussie.

NJPornstar
WA, 790 posts
27 Jun 2008 10:21AM
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GreenPat said...

N8 do you have a loft?


Best bet is having the crew who make the kites knock them up. They are exceptional craftmen and craftswomen. Once they arrive I will take to them with my little sewing machine on the ground floor and for heavy materials I buzz them up on G-spots machine in a sub basement. So I can say I work out of 2 places!

I dont think Australian retailers are actually open for business considering how many contact me. It seems that kiteboarding knowledge is hard to find. The best place to find almost unsolicited knowledge is from your unsponsered mate or on the internet and if your capable of using the internet and trust what you read, you will also go shopping on it.

From what I have learnt Australia's trend is to import. Resulting in sending $AU away to fund pretty looking kiteboarding ads. Ads are expensive and thats where associated businesses look big and solo businesses look small.

Kiteboarders who purchase brand new kites ultimately control the industry.

If your chasing a NEW kite Seabreeze has them in the buy and sell section at awesome prices. Made from the same materials and by the same craftsmen, sold by your favourite brand.
What can I say some people find NEW kites too high performing if there is such a thing.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
27 Jun 2008 11:02AM
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Reflex Films said...

Readers can decide for themselves if thats Aussie enough for them.



lol.
What a load of fken pimp-hype.
Attempting to Aussie-fy offshore brands....
spreading the vegemite on nice and thick...
in order to flog 3rd World-made kites to the sucker flagwavers who live in the land of milk and honey.

Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels.
*famous quote.
hahaha

Reflex Films
WA, 1458 posts
27 Jun 2008 11:20AM
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Certainly is a robust debate generated here!

If you want to look at it that way - There is a spectrum of "aussie ness" to kitebrands - with kites designed , manufactured and marketed in oz on one end (i dont think any brands qualify) and kites bases overseas with not even any distribution in Australia on the other (a few there) - i'm sure you can import them via the internet for a bargain price.

The more Aussie brands are definitely easier to get spares and bladders for - not too mention advide on set up etc. As evidenced by the presence of those brands on this forum.

With the right info at your finger tips you can decide where on the spectrum a brand sits. And add it to the matrix of performance ,style, image and yes even color.

And considering we all live on the one planet - and Australia is a very wealthy country - globally speaking - thinking globally vs nationally is a whole other debate.

i liked that quote wave slave - very thought provoking.

choicey
QLD, 280 posts
27 Jun 2008 1:57PM
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So i guess that would make Best an Australian Kite company too.
Founder, Shannon Best is an Australian Aborigine,
Kites such as the Yarga and the Waroo are Aboriginal names (Waroo = Fire) not sure what Yarga means.
Best kites are designed and tested here in WA.

Lovely
QLD, 248 posts
27 Jun 2008 2:18PM
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Thats right.

Also North!
They test in Western Australia and Drew Beavis is a team rider.

hookworm
VIC, 600 posts
27 Jun 2008 4:44PM
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will there ever be an australian made kite?i know it would cost more but anyone can start there own company through china kite and say there aussi and sell cheap **** not havin a dig at anyone just that there is one of these so called aussi brands near me who bags all the big brands and claims his is better (and the crap he tells people is unbelivable) and sells it to people who dont have a clue next minute there's some dude in real trouble who ends up making us all look bad. and when something breaks he's nowhere to be found and they come and hastle us.

meerkat
WA, 644 posts
27 Jun 2008 3:55PM
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Lovely said...

Are there any other Australian brands I have missed out by mistake?


Looks like EVERY brand is australian. You should have posted.

Which brand ISN'T australian.



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