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What's the pleb to experienced dude ratio

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Created by Plummet > 9 months ago, 31 Dec 2015
Plummet
4862 posts
31 Dec 2015 12:47PM
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At your local beach?

I was out of town today at another beach and man the pleb ratio was off the charts. Maybe 80% pleb to 20% experienced guy.

Sandfoot
VIC, 569 posts
31 Dec 2015 4:27PM
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Don't get to high up on your horse Mister,

We were all we're Plebs Once. Lots of newcomers around at the moment, let em have a go mate.

Maybe the more newcomers to kitesurfing means lower prices and more competition with equipment sales.

Peace

Keaw Yed.
WA, 201 posts
31 Dec 2015 1:31PM
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Plummet,

Should that not be a pleb to non pleb ratio?

Over these holidays I have seem many an "experienced pleb" at my local,
- the guy in boots just sitting at the waters edge for what appeared to be an age - getting in the way of launches / landings
- the guy who has to come in sooooo close to shore, again causing issues for landing and launching
- the mates - trying to land one of their kites, whilst his is still in the air
- the guy who can see someone walking up their lines and decides to lay his over theirs!!! and the list goes on, and on

Can be better entertainment than the tv

Nathe
WA, 439 posts
31 Dec 2015 3:41PM
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Plummet said...
At your local beach?

I was out of town today at another beach and man the pleb ratio was off the charts. Maybe 80% pleb to 20% experienced guy.


I'm starting to realize that quite a few guys on here think they above everyone else!! Pull your head out your arse and let people enjoy the ocean without bagging them out

flyingcab
VIC, 942 posts
31 Dec 2015 6:42PM
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I feel like both the quality in forums and comradeship in kite surfers have just plummeted this season.

SibboV1
368 posts
31 Dec 2015 3:48PM
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KEAW YED said..

- the guy in boots just sitting at the waters edge for what appeared to be an age - getting in the way of launches / landings
- the guy who has to come in sooooo close to shore, again causing issues for landing and launching
- the mates - trying to land one of their kites, whilst his is still in the air
- the guy who can see someone walking up their lines and decides to lay his over theirs!!! and the list goes on, and on



I think I have done all of those in a row, with some boosting in the shallows close to shore, looping with people right behind me and then crashing right in the sweet spot and body dragging to get the board (should have had boots) and fk it up for everyone.

The good thing is I generally have a heap of room around me when I kite, as everyone knows I'm usually totally out of control. If I ever got good, I'd lose my room. haha

stuntnaz
NSW, 540 posts
31 Dec 2015 6:50PM
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If more of the experienced people give advice to the newbies this wouldn't be a problem .

someawe
WA, 179 posts
31 Dec 2015 3:52PM
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More hero's on here than in a comic book store!

Mrknownothing
QLD, 147 posts
31 Dec 2015 6:38PM
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By plumdawgs own admissions he would be considered a pleb at most beaches... Look maa, I did a boostie of a wave...

What a **** thread. As long as your having fun who cares..

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
31 Dec 2015 5:15PM
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The only thing that NZ produces are plebs..

Fact

Sandfoot
VIC, 569 posts
31 Dec 2015 8:21PM
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RPM said..
The only thing that NZ produces are plebs..

Fact



Girl Friend Dropped ya...... again ??????????

SibboV1
368 posts
31 Dec 2015 5:33PM
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Sandfoot said..

RPM said..
The only thing that NZ produces are plebs..

Fact




Girl Friend Dropped ya...... again ??????????


Nar, she has a bigger wang though.

stuntnaz
NSW, 540 posts
1 Jan 2016 1:24AM
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Red thumbing forum plebs percentage seems to be up too !

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
1 Jan 2016 12:42AM
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Plummet said..
At your local beach?

I was out of town today at another beach and man the pleb ratio was off the charts. Maybe 80% pleb to 20% experienced guy.


seriously it sucks everywhere i go locally. its not untill you go to countrys with NOThING but wind that you find experienced kiters. which makes sense really people just try work pay off houses feed familys etc

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
31 Dec 2015 10:46PM
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Plummet said...
At your local beach?

I was out of town today at another beach and man the pleb ratio was off the charts. Maybe 80% pleb to 20% experienced guy.


Plums don't be so hard on yourself

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
31 Dec 2015 10:52PM
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Mrknownothing said..
By plumdawgs own admissions he would be considered a pleb at most beaches... Look maa, I did a boostie of a wave...

What a **** thread. As long as your having fun who cares..


Happy New Year guys.....

Noobs, plebs, what about beginners? All other terms scream a superior egotistical mentality.

When I started kiting, the biggest thing I loved besides the thrill was the helpful attitude of just about everyone at the spot. It was a huge game changer to surfing. The guys I met, some are my best friends. And then Bow kites came along in 2006.

We were all beginners once, got so much good advice along the way and always pay it forward. Sometimes I even interfere if safety is concerned. If you dont like the ratio go to a different beach.
"Accidents" dont just happen, theres always causation in the preceding moments.

Anyway I in Perth I dont kitesurf on the river cause its full of bloody KOOKS




Plummet
4862 posts
1 Jan 2016 1:58AM
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Ok maybe I phrased this wrong. It wasn't ment to be abusive or elitist. I just found it interesting that 80% this croud was novice. At my local it's the other way round.

I wondered what the mix was around the globe.

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
1 Jan 2016 7:43AM
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Depends where you go, popular flatwater spots near cities i reckon your 80/20 stacks up
Overhead and 30 knots and I am usually the only pleb
Would be interesting to get some stats on how many kiters actually graduate from mowing the lawn though
The drop out rate must be fairly high I would think?

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
1 Jan 2016 12:12PM
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Rails said..
Depends where you go, popular flatwater spots near cities i reckon your 80/20 stacks up
Overhead and 30 knots and I am usually the only pleb
Would be interesting to get some stats on how many kiters actually graduate from mowing the lawn though
The drop out rate must be fairly high I would think?


ive allways believed theres like 1 500 000 and about 1000 can throw a handle pass meaning theres 1 499 000 kooks

Nathe
WA, 439 posts
1 Jan 2016 12:11PM
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Kozzie said...
Rails said..
Depends where you go, popular flatwater spots near cities i reckon your 80/20 stacks up
Overhead and 30 knots and I am usually the only pleb
Would be interesting to get some stats on how many kiters actually graduate from mowing the lawn though
The drop out rate must be fairly high I would think?


ive allways believed theres like 1 500 000 and about 1000 can throw a handle pass meaning theres 1 499 000 kooks


A handle pass means your not a kook? Only if you froth on the freestyle stuff but that's only one part of kiting. Unfortunately I'm getting the feeling kiteboarding is going the same way surfing has. To many pretentious knobs trying to all be the cool kids . I'm out there for the fun ,blast a few turns on the waves tt or surfboard a cruise to the the outer reefs for a bit of time to myself. I feel sorry for everyone who has something to prove to the next guy doing dizzy wizzies. Have fun out there fellas and who give a crap what others think

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
1 Jan 2016 2:23PM
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Agree Nathe - what I meant is the percentage that spend a few months or a season kiting and then never kite again

Gorgo
VIC, 5098 posts
1 Jan 2016 3:43PM
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The world seems to operate on an 80-20 ratio in everything. So at any particular beach there will be 80% of people with not much idea, and 20% that have an idea of what they are doing.

Thing is, the 80-20 ratio repeats indefinitely. So in the 20% of people who know what they are doing, 80% will be plodding along, more or less under control, and 20% will be ripping.

It gets further complicated by cross-wise ratios. In your 20% of rippers there will be a bunch of wake-style dudes who can handle pass, but can't ride upwind, so they're in the 80% of less than competent. The wave guys will rip on both tacks, but get lost in a forward roll. Then you'll get a race guy who can barely fly his kite and wobbles through gybes, but then turns upwind and disappears out of sight.

stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
1 Jan 2016 3:47PM
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I've been a noob / pleb all my life...
That never stopped me from having a ball...

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
1 Jan 2016 4:34PM
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Yeah but. ..
You're not supposed to put them in your mouth

SibboV1
368 posts
1 Jan 2016 1:52PM
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I pay extra for them to put them in their mouth....

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
1 Jan 2016 3:55PM
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There's a number of experienced (generally older) guys down here who don't do any 'moves' of any sort, jump a little on a good day, don't handle pass..but they have very good kite control and you can kite with them without fear of anyone doing something stupid...I call them expereinced, advanced. Not trying to prove anything just kiting for kitings sake. most of them on SBs, couple on TTs just doing their thing.

We we do have a lot of kooks down here, who make me nervous at times, but hopefully over time the general riding ability will improve and a better standard set...once they have the kite and board control that only time on the water can provide.

I wouldnt say trying to be a spider monkey makes you advanced (Theres guys riding in an advanced way in all areas) But the risk factor for injury is defintelty the highest. And potential kite damage. Call it advanced potential for knees, ankles and shoulders to go.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
1 Jan 2016 5:57PM
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Competent kiter at the beach today... Had his harness on upside down.

"It's alright, I never unhook."

WillyO
QLD, 263 posts
1 Jan 2016 6:02PM
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Another day, another crap topic from plums

fingerbone
NSW, 921 posts
1 Jan 2016 7:26PM
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I imagine that to the Dimitris of this world you may be called a pleb.

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
3 Jan 2016 7:29PM
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Plummet said..
At your local beach?

I was out of town today at another beach and man the pleb ratio was off the charts. Maybe 80% pleb to 20% experienced guy.


You should be asking what the D%$%^head to nice person ratio is on this forum...I feel sorry for the newbies that come here and have to read these posts from dudes that think its their right to belittle people for learning a sport so they can shine their kite hero medal. Why not be at the beach helping some of the plebs become better kiters.

heyjoe
WA, 26 posts
4 Jan 2016 2:02PM
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I Agree AndreC!

Maybe plummets post should have been more like this:

80% Ego driven, 'I'm a hero' type kiters whinging and moaning about so called plebs...noobs...kooks...etc
20% Humble and decent people, happy to offer help to others no matter what experience level, so all can enjoy the stoke.
Unfortunately that 20% probably don't visit these forums much, probably due to the amount of D%$%heads on here.

But then if he wrote that he might be incriminating himself and his ego just wouldn't allow it...



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