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What is AIRSTYLE?

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Created by Subculture > 9 months ago, 16 Jun 2012
eppo
WA, 9686 posts
18 Jun 2012 6:18PM
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Subculture said...

Gorgo said...

I liked it. It made me smile.

It suffers from the same problem as wake style. Once you get past the full on power moves the tricks are just froth.

Pointlessly twirling your board is just as pointless as pointlessly passing your bar. It's pointless. Get my point?


I'm giving you 5 points for your last sentence . . . . .










Yeh I'd have to agree somewhat. Pointless indeed. But man it's fun.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
19 Jun 2012 10:55AM
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Was pretty cool

Devo there was no General...

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
19 Jun 2012 11:12AM
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eppo said...

Who the hell is Damo?



Ha Ha There u go Damo. Ur loosing ur place in the pecking order.
Good to see AIRSTYLE is coming back (as it was always destined to do). Give u a 2nd chance at a fame. (or should that be a revival of fame? )

AIRSTYLE is the way-to-go. Talented kiters strutting their stuff with what the crowds love to see and not putting their bodies at risk of serious shoulder & knee disabilities every time they go out.
How many freestylers do you know that havent had serious injuries. And how many do you know where it was permanent.
Plus AIRSTYLE (call it old school if u like) is stuff you can ONLY do on a kite. Why did we ever have to mimic wakers & skaters.

(Not knocking you hot shots out there. As most would know I am a big fan of the handle pass crew. I just wonder at the logic some times. Respect)

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
19 Jun 2012 11:57AM
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Damo from air-rush right....sorry damo....

Agreed entirely, things that can be done on a kite only, and yet the focus of most competitions are on kiters copying skaters and wake boarders.

Did they take the arial stuff to where it could go or was it stopped short due to the movement to the wakestyle...

and again not knocking the highly skilled, technical and brave wakestyle riders.

NigeRobo
QLD, 27 posts
19 Jun 2012 2:36PM
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Board flick @ 2.07 is cool. Wonder how many times I'll get hit in the face before I get it

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
19 Jun 2012 2:46PM
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Dawn Patrol said...

Was pretty cool

Devo there was no General...


Pretty sure I spotted the General at 1:55m ( combined with a board off)

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
19 Jun 2012 1:36PM
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Bring on VB man......

mitch88
NSW, 271 posts
19 Jun 2012 3:48PM
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i just ordered his DVD. 500+ tricks sounds alright

Plummet
4862 posts
19 Jun 2012 1:51PM
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Why are you guys scared of knocking the wakestyle crew? I see the point of wake styling if your a wake boarder and want to train for wakeboarding when you don't have access to a boat so you grab a kite and go to it. good on you for cross training

But wakestyling if your not a wakeboarder? pointless. why not use the lift of the kite?
More pointless that this old style air school. . . . .

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
19 Jun 2012 3:08PM
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Just being politically correct plummet, not trying to to start another thread war. What the hell...I agree and have always agreed with this and have made comments over the past few years and been noticeably slammed.

How the hell did wake-style hi-jack this sport when considering the competitive arena. Some might say it was just natural evolution, I mean there is no denying the skill and bravery needed to pull of those high powered moves,,, surely you cannot deny this...

But i got into kiting to boost and ride waves...but each to their own I suppose.

pattiecannon
QLD, 593 posts
19 Jun 2012 6:07PM
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Wow, if Freddy Mercury was a kite boarder, he'd do this, singing ' I want it all - I want it now!' But kudos, this style is very practical as it will also help you save on your pedicure bill. Did he steal that springy from madonnas navy seal collection?

Plummet
4862 posts
19 Jun 2012 4:58PM
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indeed i don't deny the wakestyle skill involved. to be brutally honest its pretty boring to watch. 90% of the moves all look the same and its all done low and fast. its much more stectacular to watch someone boost big. if they throw dowm some moves then good on them.

mind you if i was not endowed with a plethora of waves at my local and only had flat water then i may see the need to do something different. Luckily for me every session is a wave session so i don't need to look to wake style to progress.

Lastly. If someone wants to wake style. good on them. go for it. Its not my cup of tea

But i will be pleased when the sponsered riders move on from wake style. I'm sick of eagerly looking at the latest vid from any kite company and all i see is low level wake styling. Bores me to tears.

At least i was entertained with Toby's teaser. I wish he would stop pointing his feet so much. Its not an olympic pommel horse event. its manly kiting!. Jut those man feet out proudly on awkward manly angles and i'll be happier.

Danmurphys
WA, 231 posts
19 Jun 2012 6:45PM
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That was soooo hommus! Was he serious or taking the piss?

Gave me the same feeling as the day i noticed scooters had replaced skateboards in the local skate park.

Never before have I seen a kiter look so feminine, like a ballerina!

Chris_M
2132 posts
19 Jun 2012 7:02PM
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It makes me feel funny, like when we used to climb the rope in gym class

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
19 Jun 2012 9:08PM
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Plummet said...




But i will be pleased when the sponsered riders move on from wake style. I'm sick of eagerly looking at the latest vid from any kite company and all i see is low level wake styling. Bores me to tears.




this debate is older & more repeated than the eric eck vid, but i still can't let this comment go^^^

anybody can be vertically yanked upwards and dangle like a teabag under their kite. why would companies pay riders to do what every gumby at every local kite beach can do with 6 months practice?
if you want to pat yourself on the back by watching a general or a deadman or any of those other nameless abominations & say 'i can do that trick too' then hey that's fine. but it's regression in the sport to ask for a return to dangle riding at the top levels.

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
19 Jun 2012 9:19PM
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here's another great idea; let's get all of the top asp surfers, put them on 14 foot wooden mals, and get them to compete in 2ft shore break- just like they used to in the 50s. much less technical, slower, and more accessible, and a step backwards. just like dangling...

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
19 Jun 2012 9:30PM
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I've never ridden boots, I don't do handle passes (yet), but I have to say that, for me at least, the thrill of nailing even a basic trick at speed and with the kite low is greater than the thrill of boosting big. The timing, co-ordination and strength required are much greater.

Yes I busted my knee a bit over a year ago, but rather than give it up, I'm very happy to be progressing more slowly rather than going for stuff too far ahead of my abilities.

And for sure I like to boost too, but until you've cleanly landed even a simple a front roll with your kite low and going at least as fast as when you took off, you can't have any real idea of why some crew are dedicated to powered kite-low tricks: they're a rush.

And it doesn't have to be either/or. Youri, among others, does some crazy boosting/old-school stuff as well as stomping powered moves.

Plummet
4862 posts
19 Jun 2012 7:35PM
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stamp said...

here's another great idea; let's get all of the top asp surfers, put them on 14 foot wooden mals, and get them to compete in 2ft shore break- just like they used to in the 50s. much less technical, slower, and more accessible, and a step backwards. just like dangling...


hehehe... but what is next after wakestyle?. because it is a fad. in a few years time you will be posting this same comment about wake style... saying something like. "can't beleive we wrecked out knees doing that low level wake style"

you know what i want to see.

speed kiting mixed with jumping.

I want to see a dude doing 80kph hit a kicker like evil knevil and jump 20 boats.

Do your wake style handle pass off the evil knevil ramp at 80 clicks and i'll give you the kudos you deserve!.




eppo
WA, 9686 posts
19 Jun 2012 8:51PM
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djdojo said...

I've never ridden boots, I don't do handle passes (yet), but I have to say that, for me at least, the thrill of nailing even a basic trick at speed and with the kite low is greater than the thrill of boosting big. The timing, co-ordination and strength required are much greater.

Yes I busted my knee a bit over a year ago, but rather than give it up, I'm very happy to be progressing more slowly rather than going for stuff too far ahead of my abilities.

And for sure I like to boost too, but until you've cleanly landed even a simple a front roll with your kite low and going at least as fast as when you took off, you can't have any real idea of why some crew are dedicated to powered kite-low tricks: they're a rush.

And it doesn't have to be either/or. Youri, among others, does some crazy boosting/old-school stuff as well as stomping powered moves.







A rush is hitting a 5 foot wave at max speed and boosting 20 plus foot in the air. a forward roll at speed is cool, but I wouldn't call it a rush. Agreed with the youri point.

mitch88
NSW, 271 posts
19 Jun 2012 11:49PM
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nothing beats just getting out in 25 to 30 knots and throwing some of the biggest jumps you have ever done! nothing compares

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
19 Jun 2012 11:31PM
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This thread summarises Seabreeze to a tee.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
20 Jun 2012 8:36AM
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Dammit I ran outta thumbs waaay before the end of this thread.

Wakestyle is booooooring to watch to me. One trick , repeat repeat repeat. I don't care if this one was fully inverted and this one spun backwards while passing the bar between the legs.

I can't tell the difference between handle pass tricks, but more to the point I don't want to because really it's all just the same old handle pass dressed up different ways.


PsYLoR
QLD, 927 posts
20 Jun 2012 10:28AM
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WTF - i go away and come back to this......

Im over 30ish and there is no way I'd be caught dead doing that cawk and balls shenanigans.


sci
WA, 762 posts
20 Jun 2012 9:08AM
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sir ROWDY said...

This thread summarises Seabreeze to a tee.


I have not checked in here for a while but this thread pretty much says it all.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
20 Jun 2012 12:34PM
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Some of you people should pull your heads in and show some respect for kiting in its purest traditional form..........

Obviously a lot of wannbe wake boarders and wannabe surfers lurk on this site .......

Its fine if you want to mimmick other sports ( 90% of you look like kooks doing it ) but go ahead its still fun.

But in the mean time appreciate the skills it does require to pull off some of the old school tricks because most of you wouldnt even get close to doing half of them and many of these triks were invented well before you homos had depower and were done on two line kites.

A bit more respect for the forefathers of kiting and the moves they INVENTED NOT COPIED

pattiecannon
QLD, 593 posts
20 Jun 2012 12:51PM
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harry potter said...

Some of you people should pull your heads in and show some respect for kiting in its purest traditional form..........

Obviously a lot of wannbe wake boarders and wannabe surfers lurk on this site .......

Its fine if you want to mimmick other sports ( 90% of you look like kooks doing it ) but go ahead its still fun.

But in the mean time appreciate the skills it does require to pull off some of the old school tricks because most of you wouldnt even get close to doing half of them and many of these triks were invented well before you homos had depower and were done on two line kites.

A bit more respect for the forefathers of kiting and the moves they INVENTED NOT COPIED




Haha, good to see the self righteous old skool are as politically correct as the hecklers :P Don't forget to point your toes today ol' boy!
Hey Plummet, Tobes was sporting very manly toes when he balanced the board on his shins . hahah, a very cool move all the neo-post-modern-new-skoolers will be pulling this one inverted to blind for sure heheheheh

DaNinja
6 posts
20 Jun 2012 11:18AM
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Its good to see the odd hooked in trick, but watching a vid full of board off spinner things is as bad as watch a vid full of handle passes spinner things.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
20 Jun 2012 2:55PM
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harry potter said...

Some of you people should pull your heads in and show some respect for kiting in its purest traditional form..........

Obviously a lot of wannbe wake boarders and wannabe surfers lurk on this site .......

Its fine if you want to mimmick other sports ( 90% of you look like kooks doing it ) but go ahead its still fun.

But in the mean time appreciate the skills it does require to pull off some of the old school tricks because most of you wouldnt even get close to doing half of them and many of these triks were invented well before you homos had depower and were done on two line kites.

A bit more respect for the forefathers of kiting and the moves they INVENTED NOT COPIED







Damn that was well said....a little too strong for my own convictions, but ..'what he said!'.

kiter77
VIC, 273 posts
20 Jun 2012 5:34PM
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The majority of tricks Toby does are not possible with the average kite. You need to be able to lock the bar down as he does with the micro loop.

So if you're thinking of boosting and letting go with both hands for the behind board pass it'll be all over very quickly!

Sure he makes it look easy but some of those tricks must take years to perfect, full credit to him.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
20 Jun 2012 4:36PM
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kiter77 said...

The majority of tricks Toby does are not possible with the average kite. You need to be able to lock the bar down as he does with the micro loop.
So if you're thinking of boosting and letting go with both hands for the behind board pass it'll be all over very quickly!.


Any bar that comes with an active stopper ball - what I call cruise control - that little wedgy thingy that slides up & down your trim ropes above your bar (you would be surprised how many dont know what its for) can do any of the hands-off stuff. Just set your wedge as close to the bar as possible. Keeps your kite well powered through tricks.
Good way for newbies to get something like the feel of what kiting was like before depower came along .



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