So here is the deal, i love my 8m RPM however, had an incident today on a nice downwinder in 20 knots, i stuffed up a move and the kite hit the water, wasnt too powered however leading edge hit the water before i gained composure. The kite had torn from leading edge to trailing edge inbetween the centre strut and lhand strut.
Would this be covered by warranty? This was not under extreame conditions and well within the kite wind range, its around 30-40 sessions old and less than 6 months from new...
I dont mind paying for a repair however kite values drop dramaticly after a repair.
So should I i even consider taking this up with SS or forget it and suck it up.
By the way, thanks to everyone who asked if i needed assistance. Even though i was 500+ meters out I had volunteers lining up to drag my kite and board in. Cheers.
I am pretty sure that no kites have unlimited "impact" warranty, if that is what caused the torn bit.
You might just have been unlucky with how hard / loaded and the angle that the kite hit the water or wave?
Or you could have weakened the material before hand by leaving it in hot places / laying on the beach a lot, or previous hard impacts.
So I would be surprised if they would fix it.... Had it been session 1, crash 1 and it wasn't a smack into the water, the situation might be different.
I'm 99.9% sure you won't get that covered under warranty. Similar thing happened to my 13m Bandit3 last week. Basically you just have to take the good with the bad and accept that the kite's value has now dropped.![]()
Hi Sk1nner,
Manufacturer warranty is for defects in the materials and workmanship. If you have flown it 30 or 40 sessions, it would be very fair to say there were no defects in the kite from new.
The impact that tore your kite may not have been hard, but where the kite bent or folded as the impact happened may have stressed a tiny scratch or cut in the canopy caused by a small shell or piece of glass on launch or turning the kite over or any other one of a dozen scenarios which may have weakened the fabric.
I've seen kites slam so hard that the impact jars your back teeth 200m away and nothing happens, they relaunch and fly again for another year without incident. Also seen some that hit very soft and, like yours, tear from LE to TE. It's bad luck.
I have dealt with this kind of thing for many years since the early days of Airush and each tear or failure can usually be pinpointed to some scuff marks on the canopy or leading edge or such.
Sorry for the bad news, but it's been flying way too long to be a real warranty case.
Take it to see Neil, he does good work.
Cheers,
KH
hey mate, i have a friend that had the exact same thing happen to him with a fuel.another had the kite literally blow up on him whilst pumping the kite up and my kite suffered tears after it crashed and deflated, also had a very long swim in.I just reckon that ss quallity has drastically reduced and are no longer the benchmark for bulletproof construction.If i was you, i would get it to a good local sailmaker and just pay the 100 or so bucks that it will cost and that way you will have it back sooner. my kite took over 5 weeks to get back to me when it got sent to the distributor, which is pretty poor form. i wish i had just had it done myself. don t reckon ss will be my 1st option kite for next year tho.
I had the same thing happen last year to my brand new SS13mtr on first session. In a simple roll I lost control and the kite hit water and wouldn't relaunch. I eventually found a straight split along LE from centre strut to next strut (clean and neat at point of connection). Witnesses who saw incident were surprised because of it was only slight impact. On contacting SS I was initialy told it's my fault and bad luck, however persistence led to a positive outcome. That said I don't think a kite with 6 months of use would qualify for faulty workmanship. I reckon that once a kite is a month old the warranty is useless because the manufacturer will claim use & wear will have caused whatever problem.
Thanks for the insight guys, yup i dont want to be without my kite this close to the end of the WA season.
A good point about the kite landing on an uneven surfacelarge wind swell kitehard, my guess is that it played a large part.
Thought it would be a long shot, oh well, just hope Neil hasnt packed up for kitestock.
Hi guys,
The way I had it explained to me by a manufacturer was that the kite is designed to fly and perform well dynamically in the sky. It's flight performance is the most important consideration.
Kite weight is also a consideration and directly links straight back to the first order of design ie flight (build it light and it will turn/fly better).
Lastly the kite is designed to withstand some basic crashes and float to achieve relaunch from the water.
If you sit at the beach on any windy day and watch what people do to their kites, it's pretty unbelievable that the kites last a session, let alone a season or more without major repair.
Shell scrapes as they are self launched, crashes into scrub, vegetation and dunes, hard impacts on the sand, caught in shore break and rolled/dragged through the wringer whilst the hapless rider is towed along like a rag doll torpedo, impacts from pitching green waves, full bore kite loop slams leading edge straight down, mid air crashes into other kites and finally self landings that go wrong.
I observe this stuff ^^^^ every single day at Pinnaroo with the exception of pitching green waves and you do get to see the odd bit of damage but on thew whole, most survive repeated abuse. Considering that they are not really designed to be crashed and abused, they do generally last pretty well.
Just a different perspective,
KH
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back on topic though, why red thumb me when the truth is out there?
I'm just replying to a thread which is dear to my heart.