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We need a foil topic

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Created by cauncy > 9 months ago, 7 Dec 2016
cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
7 Dec 2016 3:22PM
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All in favour say i

pearl
NSW, 984 posts
7 Dec 2016 6:34PM
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Done!


Lukeyy
NSW, 107 posts
7 Dec 2016 7:29PM
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Foiling is here to stay

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
7 Dec 2016 5:17PM
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Scanno said...
Foiling is here to stay


So is windsurfing

Plummet
4862 posts
7 Dec 2016 5:20PM
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You better buy a foil and learn to ride it so you can participate in the ever increasing foil threads!

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
7 Dec 2016 9:13PM
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im not fussed but would be appreciated if people would include the word foil in the subject so that i dont waste 10 seconds of my life while sifting through the forum

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
7 Dec 2016 9:04PM
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We need to do a whip around to get cauncy a clue. All in favor say "aye".

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
7 Dec 2016 8:22PM
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Plummet said...
You better buy a foil and learn to ride it so you can participate in the ever increasing foil threads!




What do I need a light wind option


[;

She's been blowing it's arse off since smoko
Bring daylight saving

Kraut
WA, 547 posts
7 Dec 2016 10:04PM
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Was foiling today in 25-30 knots. Doable. Fun, mmhh. Workout, yes. Bit like riding an angry bull. Next time when it's that windy I may however take the tt out and boost and loop my arse of instead. Up to 25 knots it is fun though.

Youngbreezy
WA, 1198 posts
7 Dec 2016 11:18PM
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Back in the day a foil used to be $20 worth of some fine local herbal produce (which came wrapped in foil)

i was way way ahead of the foiling craze as a teenager

Plummet
4862 posts
8 Dec 2016 2:44AM
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cauncy said..

Plummet said...
You better buy a foil and learn to ride it so you can participate in the ever increasing foil threads!





What do I need a light wind option


[;

She's been blowing it's arse off since smoko
Bring daylight saving


Foils not for light wind. Its are for chop. Do you have chop? If yes then foiling is for you!. Imagine all those ****ty sessions where it was chop, chop and more chop.
All you do is smash through chop for the entire session. Foil board completly eliminated chop!. Its gone! forever!.........

Sir V
QLD, 490 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:36AM
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Foils are not for light wind, Foils are not for chop.. they're for everything you decide to try them on - I do

Sir V
QLD, 490 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:47AM
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And I say "I"... just look at the KiteForum box.. there used to be the occasional email about Foils, now it's 50% of all topics..

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Dec 2016 12:39PM
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15 to 25 knots isn't blowing its arse off.

dachopper
WA, 1800 posts
8 Dec 2016 12:19PM
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We had baked snapper in garlic, layed on foil last night !

Was dam good too !

Plummet
4862 posts
8 Dec 2016 12:39PM
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Sir V said..
Foils are not for light wind, Foils are not for chop.. they're for everything you decide to try them on - I do


True. Just trying to get cauncy to think outside his little box he's put the foils in.

snalberski
WA, 858 posts
8 Dec 2016 1:08PM
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This thread is timely. I'm into my second season of foil boarding and am completely at ease with the board and have progressed as far as duck tacks and am now moving to boosting and back rolls. The boys/nay sayers down at my local have all watched me from my first session onward. I take my foilboard down every session and either have a full foilboard session or a 50/50 tt/fb.
Every time I arrive at the beach with my foilboard the response is 'your not foiling today are you?'... 'you wont need that today'...
or some similar comment that indicates that they think foiling is only appropriate in marginal conditions.
Not one of them has ever ridden a foilboard an it amazes me that they think they know more about it than me, especially when they can clearly see me
flying with no difficulties in 20knts with a 10m kite.
When it gets to 15/16 knts and they are all struggling and at best having a totally unsatifying session, I am completely flying at any upwind angle I desire.
I usually smile to myself but laugh out load when they start to congregate on the beach saying things like 'it just needs a couple more knts"
Snap out of it hat wankers.

KiteBud
WA, 1599 posts
8 Dec 2016 4:08PM
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snalberski said..
This thread is timely. I'm into my second season of foil boarding and am completely at ease with the board and have progressed as far as duck tacks and am now moving to boosting and back rolls. The boys/nay sayers down at my local have all watched me from my first session onward. I take my foilboard down every session and either have a full foilboard session or a 50/50 tt/fb.
Every time I arrive at the beach with my foilboard the response is 'your not foiling today are you?'... 'you wont need that today'...
or some similar comment that indicates that they think foiling is only appropriate in marginal conditions.
Not one of them has ever ridden a foilboard an it amazes me that they think they know more about it than me, especially when they can clearly see me
flying with no difficulties in 20knts with a 10m kite.
When it gets to 15/16 knts and they are all struggling and at best having a totally unsatifying session, I am completely flying at any upwind angle I desire.
I usually smile to myself but laugh out load when they start to congregate on the beach saying things like 'it just needs a couple more knts"
Snap out of it hat wankers.





It's true you've made some progress and you're a good example of how determination eventually always pays off. But...making progress doesn't always mean you progress in the right direction.

Just like you've been learning to ride a twin tip overpowered, you've done the same with foiling. Even though you can now ride the foil, you have yet to learn the correct technique of edging the foil instead of riding it flat with the bar sheeted so far out. When you learned your first runs you were always going downwind in an effort to reduce your speed from being so overpowered.

It's now nearly impossible to learn to edge your foil and learn the correct stance unless you start downsizing by at least 3-4m of kite size.

Lots of race foilers ride overpowered but with a very specific purpose: to get some insane speeds and they can edge the foil hard with 10-12m powerful foil kites in 15-20 knots (i.e. Red Bull Race)...scary stuff, even for me. You're obviously not into racing, so in that wind range you should be using kites smaller than 10m, which would eventually vastly improve your technique.

The fact that you can't get going on your foil in 12 knots with a 12m kite is a good indicator that your technique needs improvement. In 12 knots+, I actually find my 12m to be overpowered and I'd rather use the 9m.

Plenty of lighter riders like yourself are enjoying great sessions and boosting in 15-18 knots on twin tips with kites around 12m. Absolutely no harm in going foiling in those winds, but with a 12m kite that's an overkill unless you want to break speed records or break yourself.

Christian

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
8 Dec 2016 6:12PM
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snalberski said..
This thread is timely. I'm into my second season of foil boarding and am completely at ease with the board and have progressed as far as duck tacks and am now moving to boosting and back rolls. The boys/nay sayers down at my local have all watched me from my first session onward. I take my foilboard down every session and either have a full foilboard session or a 50/50 tt/fb.
Every time I arrive at the beach with my foilboard the response is 'your not foiling today are you?'... 'you wont need that today'...
or some similar comment that indicates that they think foiling is only appropriate in marginal conditions.
Not one of them has ever ridden a foilboard an it amazes me that they think they know more about it than me, especially when they can clearly see me
flying with no difficulties in 20knts with a 10m kite.
When it gets to 15/16 knts and they are all struggling and at best having a totally unsatifying session, I am completely flying at any upwind angle I desire.
I usually smile to myself but laugh out load when they start to congregate on the beach saying things like 'it just needs a couple more knts"
Snap out of it hat wankers.


that's great, and we're all really happy for you.

but i think you guys need a special forum page where you can smugly slap each other on the back and say "they don't know what they're missing...aren't we special" without involving those of us who simply don't give a rat's arse about foiling.

many of us never again want to read about the joys of your wonderful niche discipline.

as glorious and graceful as they appear; we don't want to see another photo of a wind powered air-chair.

i know it's hard to believe, but we don't want to be enlightened.

Plummet
4862 posts
8 Dec 2016 4:52PM
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snalberski said..
This thread is timely. I'm into my second season of foil boarding and am completely at ease with the board and have progressed as far as duck tacks and am now moving to boosting and back rolls. The boys/nay sayers down at my local have all watched me from my first session onward. I take my foilboard down every session and either have a full foilboard session or a 50/50 tt/fb.
Every time I arrive at the beach with my foilboard the response is 'your not foiling today are you?'... 'you wont need that today'...
or some similar comment that indicates that they think foiling is only appropriate in marginal conditions.
Not one of them has ever ridden a foilboard an it amazes me that they think they know more about it than me, especially when they can clearly see me
flying with no difficulties in 20knts with a 10m kite.
When it gets to 15/16 knts and they are all struggling and at best having a totally unsatifying session, I am completely flying at any upwind angle I desire.
I usually smile to myself but laugh out load when they start to congregate on the beach saying things like 'it just needs a couple more knts"
Snap out of it hat wankers.


that's great, and we're all really happy for you.

but i think you guys need a special forum page where you can smugly slap each other on the back and say "they don't know what they're missing...aren't we special" without involving those of us who simply don't give a rat's arse about foiling.

many of us never again want to read about the joys of your wonderful niche discipline.

as glorious and graceful as they appear; we don't want to see another photo of a wind powered air-chair.

i know it's hard to believe, but we don't want to be enlightened.


Why then did you click on this thread and read about foils?

warwickl
NSW, 2353 posts
8 Dec 2016 8:00PM
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Agree a new forum is required and I suggested this in another post.
I have to agree its here to say and will further develop.
Most of us love the learning cycle as it is what is the most motivational. Plateauing (not sure if such a word) is booring.
I am a bit of a slow learner but have developed skills to enjoy all levels of kitesurfing at an almost good intermediate level.
Foil kiting could give me the next rush of stoke and so as not wanting to be negative I have booked a foil lesson.
Stay tuned.??

mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
8 Dec 2016 7:43PM
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snalberski said...
This thread is timely. I'm into my second season of foil boarding and am completely at ease with the board and have progressed as far as duck tacks and am now moving to boosting and back rolls. The boys/nay sayers down at my local have all watched me from my first session onward. I take my foilboard down every session and either have a full foilboard session or a 50/50 tt/fb.
Every time I arrive at the beach with my foilboard the response is 'your not foiling today are you?'... 'you wont need that today'...
or some similar comment that indicates that they think foiling is only appropriate in marginal conditions.
Not one of them has ever ridden a foilboard an it amazes me that they think they know more about it than me, especially when they can clearly see me
flying with no difficulties in 20knts with a 10m kite.
When it gets to 15/16 knts and they are all struggling and at best having a totally unsatifying session, I am completely flying at any upwind angle I desire.
I usually smile to myself but laugh out load when they start to congregate on the beach saying things like 'it just needs a couple more knts"
Snap out of it hat wankers.


Sounds like you have progressed to being the biggest tosser at your beach
Congratulations

Gustyas
61 posts
8 Dec 2016 6:29PM
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People sharing their stoke. What's wrong with it? I agree some may be a bit full of themselves but at least they are happy.

All you negative ****tards just click away. No wind?

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
8 Dec 2016 6:55PM
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Had my second foil session today. I feel like a complete retard out there. Fckn carnage.

bigtone667
NSW, 1543 posts
8 Dec 2016 10:23PM
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eppo said...
Had my second foil session today. I feel like a complete retard out there. Fckn carnage.


First few weeks are the hardest part..... just remember, front foot pressure, more front foot pressure, and think of your centre of gravity being 1m below the water.

bigtone667
NSW, 1543 posts
8 Dec 2016 10:26PM
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25-30 knots today, choppy as..... el stubbo, zeeko foil and 3.5m kite. Smooth!

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Dec 2016 9:30PM
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eppo said..
Had my second foil session today. I feel like a complete retard out there. Fckn carnage.


LOL

eppo
WA, 9688 posts
8 Dec 2016 8:44PM
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bigtone667 said..


eppo said...
Had my second foil session today. I feel like a complete retard out there. Fckn carnage.




First few weeks are the hardest part..... just remember, front foot pressure, more front foot pressure, and think of your centre of gravity being 1m below the water.



Thanks Big T. But honestly the only thinking I'm doing right now is 'why won't this god damn foilboard do what it's told!!!'

Anyhow funny story, got in a bit of a raging rant at one stage, just laying there in a boat channel swearing and shouting at the top of my lungs at nothing in particular...like for a good half a minute. Some lads cruised by in a boat and just pissed themselves laughing. Must have been a funny sight to hear and see.

Even I laughed at myself in the end. Got back on the board for yet another stupendous wipeout.

want something even funnier or at least bizarre. Even with all the crashes I still found myself so far upwind I was seriously wondering how the fck I could get back to the launch beach. Then I discovered going toeside and horrendously crashing are really good at getting back....bahahababababB

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:22PM
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If you're REALLY in a hurry to get downwind . . . flip the board upside down, tuck it under your arm, then loop the kite through the power zone ;)

dachopper
WA, 1800 posts
8 Dec 2016 10:03PM
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Sea breeze, where the armchair kiters reign supreme.






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