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WAKSA State Wave Titles - IT'S ON!!!

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Created by WAKSA > 9 months ago, 8 Jul 2010
WAKSA
WA, 813 posts
8 Jul 2010 1:34PM
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2010 State Wave Titles


OK - it is on - the call has been made for Saturday morning at Brighton Beach - 9.00am briefing for a possible 9.30am start. Keep an eye out for the WAKSA flags...

The forecast looks far from ideal at this stage - onshore wind and big swell. If conditions remain as forecast we will run a wave comp and postpone the State wave titles until later in the year. The wave comp will be a shorter event, run during the best conditions of the day. Divisions will include open mens, open womens and masters.

A final call will be made on Saturday morning, and details will be provided at the comp briefing on Saturday.

Any questions feel free to post them up !


Cheers

Your WAKSA Crew

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
8 Jul 2010 2:48PM
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Q1.Will some crew be able to get out the back to catch waves in a straight westerly and a 4m swell?
Q2. Do you think Leighton has a marginally better angle for a westerly and a more surfable wave in 4m swell for everyone?

I am keen to see the carnage either way!

The last few days like this at Brighton I didnt see anyone else out bar 1 or 2 desparados.

Ioz
WA, 493 posts
8 Jul 2010 3:02PM
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You can ride Brighton in a straight Westerly and a big swell, it just has to be a least 18 - 20 knts to get outt the back with ease.

There is some classic sections to be had, they are moments in time and you have to be in the right spot at the right time and it can all come togther.

This is a wave comp, not a chop comp,

Brigton is the call and i fully support that - it won't be a comp for everyone but let it roll i say !

Great to see WAKSA organising it, hopefully Huey will come to the party.

herbyburger
WA, 302 posts
8 Jul 2010 3:21PM
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Ditto Ioz, Good on you waksa for taking it on!! A few crew out at brightons already getting in some praccy, or maybe just grinding off some rust, anyhow they seem to going ok.. there is definately some swell and leightons is definately cleaner than scabs at the moment anyway lots of time for things to change, as said before keep it mobile and bring on the mayhem!!

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
8 Jul 2010 4:22PM
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I'll be down helping out with setup etc. I'll chuck a spare board in the car. I'd imagine one or two may get broken. This is going to be awesome. Say hi if you see a cold, wet, surly Canadian.

coreyb
WA, 463 posts
8 Jul 2010 4:55PM
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Im happy with Brighton as long as it is windy like Oz said. Big and light is no good.

make the call on the day. No use getting excited yet, ive seen more than one storm blow itself out in a day.

Jr Walks
WA, 284 posts
8 Jul 2010 8:19PM
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So theirs no junior division then?? Cheers liam

spot1
WA, 1588 posts
8 Jul 2010 10:35PM
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Jr Walks said...


So theirs no junior division then?? Cheers liam


the young guns is were its at give them a shot at glory

SammyJ
WA, 570 posts
8 Jul 2010 11:43PM
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spot1 said...

Jr Walks said...


So theirs no junior division then?? Cheers liam


the young guns is were its at give them a shot at glory



Fair call, but Liam's profile says he's thirteen. Without knowing him I'll speculate he'd be the same as a majority of other teenagers/juniors and be lucky to weigh in at 50-60kgs wet. Meaning they would probably need 4-5m kites to kite safely in winter, also dumping beachies do carry signifcant dangers to inexperienced waterman as you'd be aware. So unfortunately it would be irresponsibile on WAKSA's behalf to send out a fleet of juniors in unpredictable winter weather IMO. Saying that, the Juniors should definately get an oportunity. As Spot1 says, it's the juniors that will be showing the way in 3 to 5 years from now. WAKSA should dedicate a few weekends through summer to the young guns when the winds are steady and the beachies can handle the swell better so they can at least get out through the breakers.

Anyway hope it all goes well, will try get out of work but thats not likely.

tightlines
WA, 3501 posts
9 Jul 2010 12:44AM
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I hear you Sammy and it sounds like a fair enough call.

I will say however that Liam is one of the local groms up our way, he has his head screwed on and knows his limits. He has been at it for a couple of years (after about a year of flying a trainer kite just about every afternoon there was wind), has access to various size kites and his old man is an instructor.
As keen as he is, I have seen him sit out several sessions because he has recognised that it was a bit wild and also seen him handle some pretty full on conditions.

It may be irresponsible for WAKSA to have a junior division in Winter conditions, as that may encourage others that aren't as experienced but what is to stop a beginner entering the open division? and is there a minimum age limit in opens?
I'm not sure where the line should be drawn, after all we all enter at our own risk don't we.
At the moment the forecast for Saturday is only around the 20knot mark, of course as you (and no doubt Liam) are aware it is hard to predict what the wind is going to do at this time of the year.
Must admit that there is likely to be some pretty heavy closeout waves though.


I am working a 12hour nightshift tonight and tomorrow night so I will be giving it a miss. (plus there is no ancient grand master division )
Sunday and Monday look promising though.

Jr Walks
WA, 284 posts
9 Jul 2010 12:50AM
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I can tell you now that i will be flying on sat an sun even if their is no junior division and why cant a 50-60kg rider hold a 7m c-kite down in 20-30knts+?? I've done it before and i plan to do it again. And riders should know there limits, if they enter a competition knowing that theres huge wind and waves then they should be able to control the kite in that enviroment. My rant is officially over. Good winds and seeya there

tightlines
WA, 3501 posts
9 Jul 2010 1:45AM
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It not so much strong wind that will be the danger on Saturday junior but the onshore winds forecast making it difficult to get out through close out sets, and if the wind is lighter it just makes it harder to get out, and easier for the kite to fall out of the sky when riding a wave or on the way in.
My biggest fear with kiting in heavy conditions is not of getting lofted but of being rolled in the lines in the surf and direct onshore winds and closeout surf is the most likely time when something like that could happen.
Just be careful because like the rest of us you will be rusty after a couple of months of no kiting.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
9 Jul 2010 6:58AM
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I don't know about calling it the WA Wave Titles.

Without wavie representation from Margs., Gero., and Esp. it is simply a metro winter wave kite; an opportunity for people to get together and have a bash. Surely there will be stand outs on the day and they deserve recognition.

Hot cocoa, warm cloths and rain gear looks like the go. We still haven't really got a clue as to what the weather will be like on the day............up and down, up and down, rain, squall, sun, calm..............winter crap.

SammyJ
WA, 570 posts
9 Jul 2010 8:01AM
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Gee wizz

Liam don't be so sensitive, all I'm saying is a junior division in general would not be ideal considering the conditions. But if your so keen and confident in your abilty and father is an instructor and happy for you to go out, then why would you even want to go out against the non existant juniors. Just ask to compete in the opens, I'm sure it won't be a problem if endorsed by senior guy's that have seen you ride.

C'mon mate, 50-60kg holding down a 7m in consistant 30+ knots Like you say, as long as you know your limits.

Good luck and most of all, have fun mate.

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
9 Jul 2010 8:38AM
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gruezi said...

Without wavie representation from Margs., Gero., and Esp. it is simply a metro winter wave kite; an opportunity for people to get together and have a bash.


I agree with this.
I don't think some of the 'guns' from down south will be speeding to compete at Scabs on Sat for the WA wave titles.

IvorWindeas
WA, 110 posts
9 Jul 2010 10:00AM
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WAKSA, I admire your enthusiasm to organise a waveriding event, but I fear your enthusiam may get the better of your judgement as to what conditions to allow for the event to run.

Its all very well a few experienced kiters going out in stormy conditions, good on them. But to run an "official event" in such conditions is irresponsible. It also sends the wrong message to new kiters that it is Ok and safe to kite in such conditions. It isn't. It doesn't matter how good your waveriding and ocean skills are, a 50 knot direct onshore gust could easily drag one of your competitors halfway up Scarborough beach road.

Surely a better contest would be to organise a kitestock style event in the summer in a location with good beachbreaks and a solid seabreeze- Lancelin, Gero ect.

bobjaan
WA, 314 posts
9 Jul 2010 11:28AM
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I tend to agree, not only from a saftey point of view, but more form the point that conditions like we are going to get on Sat are hardly the type that is going to let the top waveriders show case their skills -

I recon holding the event in the summer at a decent surfbreak is the go, rather than stormy onshore metro close out rubbish during winter.

That being said I will be free riding this weekend as I love winter, but my choice of spot will be something that handles cross on shore in westerly wind.

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
9 Jul 2010 11:31AM
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Apparently its not the wave titles its just a comp wave titles being postponed till later on in the year?
GOOD ON yA Liam he should be able to go in the open event (with Fatherly consent) he has more water sense than some guys out there. The other thing is there is a womens division where they are 50-65kg and expected to hold 7m kites.. All in all there will be allot of people wanting to participate and the conditions will keep em out because they know it is extending themselves or there will be some that come a cropper.

Safety- I think as an event it may need an organized crew for rescue purpose just in case... Allot of us have had years out in the surf here and down south and can swim out of trouble. However some dude who hasnt and thinks a kite is going to pull him out of the surf every time may need help.

Again Leighton has a better angle for the dangle and better shape waves on these days, I live and kite at Brighton so I see it every day. Again today 2.5m swell 25knots not a kite in the sky...

Lots of Thanks and appreciation to the WAKSA crew for organizing these events for us all.

Happy days... I lost my liscense so I will be out at Brighton today...lol
PS did anyone see the crazy water spout tornado heading towards Freo yesterday it was nuts, one a few kms off trigg too about 4.30pm.

herbyburger
WA, 302 posts
9 Jul 2010 5:18PM
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Was out leightons yesterday late arvo and Didnt see no water spout tormato, however, after a good sesh, saw the most magical sunset for a long while, when i was packing up for a few minutes the sky was full yellow, seemed surreal, one of those moments when the metro coast actually makes you go-- wow!!!

pi22api22a
WA, 150 posts
9 Jul 2010 5:54PM
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Yep, saw the water spout as I was packing up, around 4-430 I think... nuts!

JohnnoKeys
WA, 551 posts
9 Jul 2010 7:26PM
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See you at Brighton 9am, no farken home opens this weekend as I'm on Holiday, I'm excited.......... packing my surfboards in case wind goes to shiiiiit.

If you got any sort of negitive vibe stay home and watch sport on TV, you got the buzzzzz..... see you there.

P.S I expect comp would only run if conditions are 100% safe winds are steady, no blacks fronts, twisters, etc in 200km. A tip to all winter kiters, check the rain radar and avoid any dense rain patches, you can look out 250km with confidence, about 2-3 hours before fronts hit.

The rain radar late arvo up to now is NOT kitable conditions, does not get more dangerous.

Gstar
WA, 391 posts
9 Jul 2010 7:28PM
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AndreC said...
PS did anyone see the crazy water spout tornado heading towards Freo yesterday it was nuts, one a few kms off trigg too about 4.30pm.


Had a short sesh' on my five at Scarb' about 4 PM, and decided it was time to head home when I saw those two water spouts. The one heading towards Freo looked Fn scary.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
9 Jul 2010 8:12PM
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Ioz said...

You can ride Brighton in a straight Westerly and a big swell, it just has to be a least 18 - 20 knts to get outt the back with ease.



The problem with running a contest in a DIRECT onshore wind in monster-mush is the competition zone becomes a 2 km wide stage.
Riders launching at Scarbs will be lucky if they make it thru the break by the time they get to Triggs.
Judges will need to be suppied with binoculars.
WAKSA is on a learning curve with their attempt at a cold-front contest.
Good (and safe) winter wavekiting is all about being very selective about weather conditions and choice of venue.

pi22api22a
WA, 150 posts
10 Jul 2010 8:54AM
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So definetly on then???

Ioz
WA, 493 posts
10 Jul 2010 9:15AM
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"You are wrong Waveslave"

if you have enough wind to point well, (20knts) you can line up your wave riding zone with in 100m or so, we do this when we are riding a particular bank.

AndreC
WA, 512 posts
10 Jul 2010 10:25AM
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herbyburger said...

Was out leightons yesterday late arvo and Didnt see no water spout tormato, however, after a good sesh, saw the most magical sunset for a long while, when i was packing up for a few minutes the sky was full yellow, seemed surreal, one of those moments when the metro coast actually makes you go-- wow!!!


Yeh that sunset was all time...camera would have sik...it turned on from 5-6 to huh!

Poida
WA, 1921 posts
10 Jul 2010 12:49PM
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hard to pick it, currently
6-7knots ENE at melville
16-17kn WNW at Rottnest
dont want to be undergunned on the inside washing machine section

where is the freakin sw?

pi22api22a
WA, 150 posts
10 Jul 2010 1:26PM
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Was down there at 9am,, told me that it was postponed until 1pm... fingers crossed

WAKSA
WA, 813 posts
10 Jul 2010 1:30PM
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BoM forecast for the rest of today....

Forecasts:
Saturday until midnight: W'ly winds 15/20 knots tending W/NW winds 18/23 knotsduring the afternoon. Seas 1.5m to 2.0m. Swell to 4.0m.


Here's hoping...see you in half an hour...




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