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Originally posted by azza
PS. I don't have a quiver of kites, I have a stable, there's six (6) flyable inflatables...
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- bit late with this post. 
Counting the 2 new V2's I just got, my total is only 9. If I count my trainer and buggy foils, that jumps to 14 though
Yes... OK, I have a problem. But I have it under control, I do, and I'm not giving it up.... not for no-one! 
But here is something that can be done when you have much "shizen" lying around...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31520
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Originally posted by poor relative
I have two kites.
The minimalist approach is coolest.
too many pages for me to read but has anyone mentioned "auto zenith?"
.......i heard there was an inflatable that could do that once........
Hi All!
I would like to propose a theory about the "Spongy Feeling" of foils. 
I believe that what is called "spongy feeling" is possibly a more even distribution of the stresses through the canopy and a more progressive transfert of the pull from the canopy to the rider through multiple bridles, for foils. For inflatables, and even more for C, less bridles means that the pull from the canopy travels more directly through a lower number of lines to the rider.
Let's try to illustrate the above theory using an example. Let's compare a kite whose canopy is linked to the rider using 4 lines (C shape kite) and a kite which may have, say 30 line attachments to the canopy (a foil). When you turn the C kite, the pull from the canopy travel towards the 4 lines without being directed to the rider and concentrate into the 4 lines to the rider, giving a feel of reactivity and responsiveness of the kite. For a foil, the stress of the canopy will spread between the multitude of lines and will travel ealier, more progressively and less simultaneously, to the rider.
It seems that the "spongy feeling' theory was strong a few years ago, during the 'C Age'. The theory is not as strong now, during the 'Bow Age'. This might support the theory that the "spongy feeling" is directly linked with the number of attachments to the canopy. 
Not sure if the attempt of explanation is clear, or even correct, but that 's a try! 
Excellent winds to All!!!
Fred
An epiwhat?
To help everyone:
1 ( the epitome of) a person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type : she looked the epitome of elegance and good taste
Fred
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Originally posted by fver
Hi All!
I would like to propose a theory about the "Spongy Feeling" of foils.
I believe that what is called "spongy feeling" is possibly a more even distribution of the stresses through the canopy and a more progressive transfert of the pull from the canopy to the rider through multiple bridles, for foils. For inflatables, and even more for C, less bridles means that the pull from the canopy travels more directly through a lower number of lines to the rider.
Let's try to illustrate the above theory using an example. Let's compare a kite whose canopy is linked to the rider using 4 lines (C shape kite) and a kite which may have, say 30 line attachments to the canopy (a foil). When you turn the C kite, the pull from the canopy travel towards the 4 lines without being directed to the rider and concentrate into the 4 lines to the rider, giving a feel of reactivity and responsiveness of the kite. For a foil, the stress of the canopy will spread between the multitude of lines and will travel ealier, more progressively and less simultaneously, to the rider.
It seems that the "spongy feeling' theory was strong a few years ago, during the 'C Age'. The theory is not as strong now, during the 'Bow Age'. This might support the theory that the "spongy feeling" is directly linked with the number of attachments to the canopy.
Not sure if the attempt of explanation is clear, or even correct, but that 's a try!
Excellent winds to All!!!
Fred
Yeah user you're right, sometimes I do get a bit floppy - can't keep it hard ALL day - especially in me old age LOL
BTW how's your bladder problems going?
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Originally posted by fver
Let's compare a kite whose canopy is linked to the rider using 4 lines (C shape kite) and a kite which may have, say 30 line attachments to the canopy (a foil).
I concur .unless of course it performed miracles
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Originally posted by waveslavequote:
Originally posted by fver
Even if it was FREE,
you couldn't GIVE me a kite with 30 freaking strings.
lol.
well, all I can say is that there's at least one more twin skin on the water - I picked up a brand spanking new PL Venom 10m on Saturday & had a sensational session @ Leighton Saturday arvo...kite is like a rocket...
10 meter venom...you must weigh 50 kgs!
go venoms!
Whats the score with the new Peter Lynn Kites anyone?
85kg thanks very much. In 22/23knots or above the 10 works just fine...I can promise you that. The regular kite is the 13m
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Originally posted by Juddy
85kg thanks very much. In 22/23knots or above the 10 works just fine...I can promise you that. The regular kite is the 13m
Tonewolf, mrbonk, Juddy,
When you are thru with your doona-chatroom convo....
can we get back to the slagging please.
Thanks.
still no word from the powers that be that except "be patient" Some r saying "I found something else thankyou very much.Great kites but 3rd season on V 2" Hmmmmm!
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Originally posted by Tonewolf
10 meter venom...you must weigh 50 kgs!
go venoms!
Whats the score with the new Peter Lynn Kites anyone?
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Originally posted by Juddy
85kg thanks very much. In 22/23knots or above the 10 works just fine...I can promise you that. The regular kite is the 13m
Poor form !
I have seen all sorts of s..t on all sorts of kites happen in 10 years of kiting and yes venoms can bow tie .the other day I accidently unhooked not realising and let go of a blow up with all sorts of headaches ,.Fortunately my bros on the water didn't just sit back and laugh they helped and the situation and it was sorted safely and quickly
it is unfortunate to see tribal BS creep into a sport that has been renowned for its fellowship and the good nature of most.
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Originally posted by poor relativequote:
Originally posted by Juddy
85kg thanks very much. In 22/23knots or above the 10 works just fine...I can promise you that. The regular kite is the 13m
LOL was that you bow tied?
It looked beautiful.
Guys, we all know Twin Skins are the most stable, learner friendly and forgiving kites on the market. Whether it be a twin skin or inflatable it is all about "flying the kite". What counts is statisfying the riders need/ability, performance expectations and minimising the ugly/fury bits.
I agree - - - would love to see the shaved arm pit.Word of mouth is the Venoms best friend.
