Looking into getting a new twin tip. I have a surf board for when Im riding more serious waves.
So Im just looking for something different to what I have for just cruising around and getting into some shories.
Its pretty hard trying to decide on one so all help will be appreciated. Im all for second hand too!
Shinn bronq, great for powered hacks, featherweight so you can flick it around, it's a tad power hungry on a wave kite but great on anything else, some decent footage in ordinary conditions on shinnworld.com
Select to expand quoteWoott said..
Ocean Rodeo Mako. Absolutely the board you are looking for in this case.
Where does one find these mythical creatures here in WA? Very interested in demoing one.
Any twintip will work in the waves all comes down to rider ability to surf with a twintip
Select to expand quoteWoott said..
Ocean Rodeo Mako. Absolutely the board you are looking for in this case.
Plus 1 for the OR Mako.....
Select to expand quoteVatos Locos said..
Any twintip will work in the waves all comes down to rider ability to surf with a twintip
But most TT's are **** and some are brilliant.....,...
I say go mutant!
Plus 2 for mako. Ultimate bump n jump machine...like a rocket powered skateboard.
Rides on the rail, not on the tail like most twintips.
Known for exceptional concave, which makes it smooth ride in chop.
Mako is great don't buy the big size. Go for the 140 or 150. Search in the forum for the feed back about the Mako. cheers
Mako is good. Not as good in the waves as my custom mutant...... but hey, Nobody else in the world can have one of those so mako is probably the next best thing.
Other notable options
Cabrinha tronic
Shin speedball
Axis twinwave
And if decadence is what you are after
www.nomadkiteboarding.com/index-wave-twintip-kiteboard-hybrid.html
More rocker is good for waves. Rounded outlines are also good. Curved/roled rail. Flexible tips. More concave. A bit of extra size to counteract the rounded tips. Say 145x45 is good. Extra size gives smooth carves and smoothes out chop too......
But most of the things that make a TT good in the waves also makes it suck for upwind. So excellent wave TT's are usually Power hungry. The Mako's huge concave does a really good job at making a flat water line and efficiency upwind. But the sacrifice is that its a real stiff board and is harsh unless you are slicing through the chop.
Select to expand quoteshano82 said...Woott said..
Ocean Rodeo Mako. Absolutely the board you are looking for in this case.
Where does one find these mythical creatures here in WA? Very interested in demoing one.
If your any where near Mandurah your welcome to have a crack of mine
Infrequent poster - I am sorry, so many forums to keep an eye on!
Regarding Makos in Australia. We currently lack a true WA dealer as West Oz KB dropped us for BWS a little while back and Kite Sup Puff n Stuff closed shop... which is obviously not ideal. If there are shops in WA we should be talking to, please pm me and we will get on it. However, you can order Makos from within Australia direct from East Coast Kitesurfing (Nigel). He holds a large amount of stock for us and can sort you out.
Speaking as a Canadian, I know this is like telling me to order something from Quebec when I am over here on Vancouver Island but it's at least in your country. We truly hope to see the exposure expanded soon and are working hard on it.
Specific to the Mako - we sell a ton of these boards and they are ideal for the conditions you are talking about. The 150 has the Mutant option that some are mentioning here... as does the 165 but I would agree with the previous poster that unless you are 220# or heavier this is a big board. 140 and 150 are the two most popular sizes, by far.
Really appreciate the existing Mako customers here who offered to lend their board out as impromptu demo - thank you!!
Oh, I should also point out our 60 Day Guarantee - please don't abuse it but we are so sure you will love the gear, we will take it back if not!
John ~ OR
Hi John
Not sure if this is the same Kite Surf SUP that you meant but they are still open
http://www.kitesurfsup.com.au/
Select to expand quotePlummet said...
But most TT's are **** and some are brilliant.....,...
I say go mutant!
As I don't have a flat water option unless I drive all the way out to big bear or lake Havasu either way I ride both depends on the conditions sometimes I'll ride a twintip in the surf for months on months then other times I'll go all season strapless on a regular run of the mill surfboard just depends on the day
And if decadence is what you are after www.nomadkiteboarding.com/index-wave-twintip-kiteboard-hybrid.html More rocker is good for waves. Rounded outlines are also good. Curved/roled rail. Flexible tips. More concave. A bit of extra size to counteract the rounded tips. Say 145x45 is good. Extra size gives smooth carves and smoothes out chop too......
Agreed. This board is sublime! The Carbon is De Luxe. Like a Colnago C60 for those who ride a bike!
We even have purchased a customer order. For * promotional purposes * of course ...
Select to expand quoteL2L said..
We even have purchased a customer order. For * promotional purposes * of course ...
NICE!
Select to expand quoteVatos Locos said..Plummet said...
But most TT's are **** and some are brilliant.....,...
I say go mutant!
As I don't have a flat water option unless I drive all the way out to big bear or lake Havasu either way I ride both depends on the conditions sometimes I'll ride a twintip in the surf for months on months then other times I'll go all season strapless on a regular run of the mill surfboard just depends on the day
You will definitely benefit from a wave orientated TT then. And one that can be put in mutant mode would merge your riding closer to sb while still retaining TT ability too.
I'm still a TT wave guy and love being able to start off in the backwash finish a wave ride in the shallows with a boost, then jump the breaks on way back out.
The things I have noticed over the years is that I don't need length 135 is as much as I like. Concave is nice. Over 40cm wide is to much. Comfy flex is always nice. An Assymetrical outline with more curve on toe side is a must.
Hitting lip is easy on anything but commiting to a nice bottom turn toe side is where you appreciate the more curved toe side rail.
TT wave riding to me is about being powered and using the kite power, and being able to run down the line of a breaking wave picking the good faces to fire in hit the lip then get out.
Plus more of course.
Still ripping on the Cab Tronic 137 tho may prefer the 141 now, super comfortable and draws great lines when the waves are surfboard unfriendly
Select to expand quoteRAL INN said...
I'm still a TT wave guy and love being able to start off in the backwash finish a wave ride in the shallows with a boost, then jump the breaks on way back out.
The things I have noticed over the years is that I don't need length 135 is as much as I like. Concave is nice. Over 40cm wide is to much. Comfy flex is always nice. An Assymetrical outline with more curve on toe side is a must.
Hitting lip is easy on anything but commiting to a nice bottom turn toe side is where you appreciate the more curved toe side rail.
TT wave riding to me is about being powered and using the kite power, and being able to run down the line of a breaking wave picking the good faces to fire in hit the lip then get out.
Plus more of course.
Your on it, pretty much sums up our conditions here 95% of the time, was on the alkita mutant for a little bit, but imho it doesn't hold an edge when being aggressive like a deep rocker tt, paired with a powerful kite, a mutant would be better matched with your standard wave / freeride kite, but who cares as long as your loving it
Select to expand quotecauncy said...RAL INN said...
I'm still a TT wave guy and love being able to start off in the backwash finish a wave ride in the shallows with a boost, then jump the breaks on way back out.
The things I have noticed over the years is that I don't need length 135 is as much as I like. Concave is nice. Over 40cm wide is to much. Comfy flex is always nice. An Assymetrical outline with more curve on toe side is a must.
Hitting lip is easy on anything but commiting to a nice bottom turn toe side is where you appreciate the more curved toe side rail.
TT wave riding to me is about being powered and using the kite power, and being able to run down the line of a breaking wave picking the good faces to fire in hit the lip then get out.
Plus more of course.
Your on it, pretty much sums up our conditions here 95% of the time, was on the alkita mutant for a little bit, but imho it doesn't hold an edge when being aggressive like a deep rocker tt, paired with a powerful kite, a mutant would be better matched with your standard wave / freeride kite, but who cares as long as your loving it
Tried the mutant thing back in the day but then as now I'm pretty ****e getting out toe side and changing feet with straps. I do however have a new Zeeko Pocket Air board that will be tried first chance.
Select to expand quoteRAL INN said..cauncy said...RAL INN said...
I'm still a TT wave guy and love being able to start off in the backwash finish a wave ride in the shallows with a boost, then jump the breaks on way back out.
The things I have noticed over the years is that I don't need length 135 is as much as I like. Concave is nice. Over 40cm wide is to much. Comfy flex is always nice. An Assymetrical outline with more curve on toe side is a must.
Hitting lip is easy on anything but commiting to a nice bottom turn toe side is where you appreciate the more curved toe side rail.
TT wave riding to me is about being powered and using the kite power, and being able to run down the line of a breaking wave picking the good faces to fire in hit the lip then get out.
Plus more of course.
Your on it, pretty much sums up our conditions here 95% of the time, was on the alkita mutant for a little bit, but imho it doesn't hold an edge when being aggressive like a deep rocker tt, paired with a powerful kite, a mutant would be better matched with your standard wave / freeride kite, but who cares as long as your loving it
Tried the mutant thing back in the day but then as now I'm pretty ****e getting out toe side and changing feet with straps. I do however have a new Zeeko Pocket Air board that will be tried first chance.
Old mutants had too much binding offset and were **** going backwards. This trick is to move the fins up a tad and not have a huge binding offset. Then boom. Good backwards and good on the waves!...
But I agree with the above powered style. Use the power of the kite and the wave for mutant and TT mode.
Select to expand quoteSoggy said..shano82 said...Woott said..
Ocean Rodeo Mako. Absolutely the board you are looking for in this case.
Where does one find these mythical creatures here in WA? Very interested in demoing one.
If your any where near Mandurah your welcome to have a crack of mine
Awesome, thanks for the offer Soggy. I'm home every 2 weeks - I might hit you up sometime in the next month or so, once I've got a few kites back under my belt after winter.
