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Trainer kite and Skateboard

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Created by Loftywinds > 9 months ago, 4 Jun 2014
Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
4 Jun 2014 3:51PM
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Question: Now what if those lines were say 1 metre long only and the kite was right next to you? You wouldn't need open space like that would you? What if you want to kite down the beach on the footpath? A kitewing might do it, but they are too big.

Anyone invented a proper skateboard kite?

KPSS Used
NSW, 425 posts
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4 Jun 2014 4:57PM
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Hey Lofty,

I kite skate quite a lot and asked myself the same question at one time... I tried 8m lines on my trainer and the kite would barely even leave the ground. And once you got it in the air, was super unstable and impossible to control. Most trainer kites come with around 18m lines, and I recon the shortest you could ever use is 15.

KiteBud
WA, 1601 posts
4 Jun 2014 3:42PM
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In most places I've land kited the wind is pretty bad down low due to obstacles nearby creating turbulence. Wind gets significantly steadier and stronger up higher so long lines are usually best just for that reason. I wouldn't go shorter than 15meters either.

To get more stability on a skateboard just screw in some blocks to wedge your feet in slightly, gets much easier to resist the pull from the kite. Otherwise a good quality mountain boards like MBS Comp or pro Series are great for that and you get to ride both on and off road!





kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
4 Jun 2014 5:52PM
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I reckon it's be much better on a longboard with bigger wheels and cruising/carving, not trying to do 180s on a popsicle board like that vid. But whatever makes you smile is good.

Also I have an Imp and the 3rd line would be very handy - if they dropped the bar in that vid there'd be some chasing to catch it, plus nice to have depower if things went wrong, plus self/reverse launching too.

Plummet
4862 posts
4 Jun 2014 4:37PM
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Here's my vid.



Note theres 40 seconds of nothing at the end of the vid... not sure why. stuffed up some editing settings.

Any way I agree. Short line trainer kite is a no go. it doesn't work. You need the normal or near normal line lengths.


This is my longboard of choice. Its low wide and has the widest stickiest wheels on the planet! ye freaken ha. I can tell ypu that carving up concrete on the bad boy is sublime.



Now I have also used my landboard aswell on the concrete. The landboard is by far easier because you can hold more power and also blast off into the grass without face planting. But ultimately it is not as lush as carving concrete on a smooooooooth longboard hmmmmm.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5369 posts
4 Jun 2014 4:59PM
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In my experience using a skateboard with a windsurf sail is actually far more fun and can be used in more places than a kite.

As mentioned short lines on a trainer kite don't really work that well, it's really got to be windy for most trainers to even fly properly with short lines. I get bored pretty quick riding the skateboard with a kite so I don't see why you would want to limit yourself to a board design that can't even ollie... unless of course you can't skate (ollie) anyway then I gues it doesn't really make a difference and a longboard will be more stable if you are actually going super fast.

Plummet
4862 posts
4 Jun 2014 5:22PM
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Well I'm not into shortboard style tricks. I'm all about the carving and speed. I've had some interesting sessions 25-30 knots doing about 40-50 kph. I can tell you that's jam packed with excitement.

kiter101
QLD, 115 posts
4 Jun 2014 8:05PM
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sir ROWDY said..

a skateboard with a windsurf sail


that would look seriously gay

Scrubes
VIC, 115 posts
4 Jun 2014 8:08PM
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A guy near me has made a skateboard that takes a windsurfing sail and he uses that

Plummet
4862 posts
4 Jun 2014 8:42PM
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Scrubes said..

A gay near me has made a skateboard that takes a windsurfing sail and he uses that


I corrected it for you.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5369 posts
4 Jun 2014 8:59PM
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Yeah, because flying a childs kite while riding a longboard with full pads and a helmet isn't gay in the slightest...

werty
WA, 119 posts
4 Jun 2014 9:45PM
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BATWING

TheSailingMoose
VIC, 142 posts
5 Jun 2014 6:20PM
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I bought myself a Comp 95 to go on the beach with my 3m trainer kite (Ozone Ignition). It goes really well when the beach is big and flat and the wind is up.
Prevailing wind is a southerly which blows straight onto the beach where i am. Then when it blows up and swings to the north i get out my windsurfing kit and go for a proper sail.... :P

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
5 Jun 2014 7:47PM
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take the trike out for a spin!!

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
5 Jun 2014 11:30PM
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way to skimp on the grip tape tight arse

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
6 Jun 2014 10:41AM
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I was referring to a 'kite' of some sort that you could hold onto via handles attached to the spleen or spine of the kite and simply be able to be pulled along. Attaching short to very short lines on a kite bigger than 90cm will cause all sorts of trouble, I agree. I tried it with my trainer and yeah it swayed all over the place uncontrolled. But a kitewing is what I was referring to. Unfortunately they are too big and would drag on the ground.

I am sure someone will make squillions once such a kite is invented.

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
6 Jun 2014 5:32PM
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sir ROWDY said..
I don't see why you would want to limit yourself to a board design that can't even ollie... unless of course you can't skate (ollie) anyway.


That's a pretty narrow worldview you got there ref. None of my 4 current boards even have a kicktail. But hey luckily I don't claim to be able to skate(ollie).

Plummet - nice vid. What are those wheels I've never seen any that wide. Avilas maybe?

Can anyone comment on handles vs a bar? Like this cult.. I would have thought a bar was easier, 1 hand etc.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/brighton/surfing/ozone-cult-2-5-traction-kite-and-mbs-core-95-mountain-board/1048150911

sir ROWDY
WA, 5369 posts
6 Jun 2014 5:52PM
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kiteboy dave said..

sir ROWDY said..
I don't see why you would want to limit yourself to a board design that can't even ollie... unless of course you can't skate (ollie) anyway.


That's a pretty narrow worldview you got there ref. None of my 4 current boards even have a kicktail. But hey luckily I don't claim to be able to skate(ollie).



You think?

People should start riding twin-tips without straps and boots as well if they can't jump.

Seriously though, longboards are great for bombing big hills but pretty much useless for anything else. I can't help but laugh when I see kids carrying longboards up gutters in the street.

p.s. I would still rather bomb a hill on a regular skateboard anyway, but hey I like living on the edge.

Plummet
4862 posts
6 Jun 2014 6:27PM
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Bombing a hill on shortboard is slow and boring.
I remember a time this young dude on a short challenged me till a hill bomb....... Hehehe he had no chance. Haahahaha.

The green wheels are nersh money hax. The orange wheels in the vid 3dm Avila. Both stupidly wide...... Oh yeah.

Any way bar or handles. I like riding one handed particularly toe side carving one handed is lush.
I vote bar.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5369 posts
6 Jun 2014 6:36PM
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Slow and boring???... Maybe tell nek-minnit guy that. (or a host of other people).
p.s. Longboards are a predictable, smart craft to bomb a hill with. Shortboards are a squirly, unpredictable thing to bomb a hill with. The choice is yours.

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
6 Jun 2014 10:52PM
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i wish they had trainer kites back in the old days when i was ripping wheel barrow and pram wheels off my billy carts down rocky hills.. skateboards dont have **** on billy carts

sir ROWDY
WA, 5369 posts
6 Jun 2014 10:14PM
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THE DONG said..

i wish they had trainer kites back in the old days when i was ripping wheel barrow and pram wheels off my billy carts down rocky hills.. skateboards dont have **** on billy carts


true story.

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
7 Jun 2014 2:49AM
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sir ROWDY said..

Slow and boring???... Maybe tell nek-minnit guy that. (or a host of other people).
p.s. Longboards are a predictable, smart craft to bomb a hill with. Shortboards are a squirly, unpredictable thing to bomb a hill with. The choice is yours.

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Gessus!! What was I thinking!? Of course I should have thought of a dog! Not this stupid kite idea by the handles! LOL



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