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To wash or not to wash...That is the question?

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Created by kenno > 9 months ago, 2 Jun 2008
kenno
QLD, 293 posts
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2 Jun 2008 9:13AM
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I was having this discussion the other day and did not come to a conclusion therefore I thought I would get some other opinions.

Should a kite be washed with fresh water after use? Some may think no? I believe that removing salt water and drying thoroughly will prolong the life of a kite. Can anybody give some scientific evidence to suggest otherwise?

poor relative
WA, 9105 posts
2 Jun 2008 7:32AM
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Dunno about the kite but i suggest to bleach your lines regularly

dachopper
WA, 1800 posts
2 Jun 2008 8:24AM
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scientific evidence.... If you wash your kite and then dry it out in the sun your exposing your kite and bladders to more UV rays, and will probably end up damaging it in the washing process. I don't think that salt damages kites, chlorine + fluride might ( at least help it fade ), although if you have metal on your kite anywhere ( pulleys?) it may be worth washing them briefly.

walshd
SA, 601 posts
2 Jun 2008 9:58AM
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My only reason for washing a kite is to stop having a moist kite everytime I bring it near the sea.

The salt attracts moisture, so if your not in the middle of a southern summer, the kite always seems moist. Give it a wash and problem fixed!

sneakybutche
VIC, 73 posts
2 Jun 2008 10:36AM
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In short. Don't wash your kite. Salt will not hurt it. Give your pulleys a spray with a silicon spray or similar if your kite has them. The fresh water will cause mould if you don't fully dry it before hand, a salty kite won't. And as you are all aware we are under strick water restrictions and should be saving water.

Paradox
QLD, 1326 posts
2 Jun 2008 1:15PM
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Personal choice:

Salt water is not an issue - although packing a kite away wet with sea water for any time can cause colour bleeding, but not mold.

Fresh water won't harm your kite, although packing away wet can cause mold and bleeding.

Sand is a bigger issue and can cause abrasion if trapped in certain areas. Do what you need to do to get the sand off and try to dry it properly to avoid the above.

lex123
NSW, 511 posts
2 Jun 2008 1:38PM
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poor relative said...

Dunno about the kite but i suggest to bleach your lines regularly


Can someone please explain this? what does bleaching your lines help do?. And will it completly remove any colour coding?.

walshd
SA, 601 posts
2 Jun 2008 1:38PM
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poor relative said...

Dunno about the kite but i suggest to bleach your lines regularly


Can someone please explain this? what does bleaching your lines help do?. And will it completly remove any colour coding?.


What about getting Hematite dust (red iron ore dust) out of you lines?

Jimmyz
NSW, 446 posts
2 Jun 2008 2:24PM
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Ok, the scientific reasoning for washing any material that is exposed to dissolved salts and then left to dry.

Essentially the way it goes is, salt is dissolved in the sea water, which then gets onto your kite. The water then evapourates leaving behind the salt to crystalise. These tiny crystals (not just ones you can see) get inside of the material and are able to cut the fibres or whetever it is made of, eventually the material will lose its integrity and break as it becomes weaker.

Seeing however as the kite itself IS waterproof, I don't think there would extensive damage as 99% of the salt water (or more) wouldn't be able to actually get into the material's structure.

Things like the lines definantly need to be washed in freshwater after use in salt water, mainly due to the fact they take a hell of alot of strain and aren't as waterproof, they must be washed BEFORE they dry, the bridle is a little more resistant to salt wear because they are usually covered in a 'platicy' type material, pigtails should be rinsed too.

I would agree with you that washing your kite in freshwater before a LOONG storage may improve it's life, but not by a large margin and then you have the risk of NOT drying the kite properly and then you could get mould.

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
2 Jun 2008 2:52PM
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lex123 said...

poor relative said...

Dunno about the kite but i suggest to bleach your lines regularly


Can someone please explain this? what does bleaching your lines help do?. And will it completly remove any colour coding?.


Best not to take poor relative's advice too seriously Lex, especially if it involves bleach, concrete or hamsters.

Paradox
QLD, 1326 posts
2 Jun 2008 3:10PM
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tobes said...

lex123 said...

poor relative said...

Dunno about the kite but i suggest to bleach your lines regularly


Can someone please explain this? what does bleaching your lines help do?. And will it completly remove any colour coding?.


Best not to take poor relative's advice too seriously Lex, especially if it involves bleach, concrete or hamsters.


I quite agree, bleach is a complete piss take - I find urine cleans that pesky dirt off those lines much better, and puts a nice sparkle to them. Makes having a couple of beers after a session just part of good kite maintenance really, especially if you need to clean your kite too....some people swear sea water does a good job - but like, where are you gonna find that??

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
2 Jun 2008 11:06PM
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My $0.02 worth....

Invest a couple of dollars in a cheap banister brush to get the sand off your kite before you pack it up.
Other than that, keep it dry n salty

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Walshy, iron ore dust? Sounds like you might be in Whyalla? (I used to live there, in a previous life)

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
2 Jun 2008 9:23PM
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I think it might be like a girls feef, you are not meant to wash em, they wash themselfs.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
3 Jun 2008 2:55AM
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sir ROWDY said...

I think it might be like a girls feef, you are not meant to wash em, they wash themselfs.


Aw man, but I always like to lick it before I stick it, and thats just nasty.

On the kite side though, if your kite wears out through chemical abrasion due to salt crystals before you blow it out from use, I would say you aren't using your gear enough.

Washing is a good way to get all the sand out if you haven't got a good space to hang your kite though. I have always been told sand is is the thing that does the worst damage, esp where the kite canopy rests on the leading edge bladder.

skiddz
NT, 237 posts
3 Jun 2008 8:32AM
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what about any sand that gets left behind... Doesn't that cause abrasion to the kite?
I'm talking about areas such as between stuts or LE and the kite material.

walshd
SA, 601 posts
3 Jun 2008 9:27AM
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Yeh skiddz, thats the worst high wear area for the kite, but most new kites are reinforced there to help.

Skid, the red dust is heaps better nowdays how crushing is done out at the mines. But there are still the occassional red seagull getting around.

FYI: Whyalla is the only place in South Australia that is home to the native red seagull. The native red seagull is a close relation to the common seagull, and can be easily identified by its red body and ratty looking appearance.
The native red seagull is notorious for crapping on kites, cars, boards and is quite aggressive around chips and wheelie bins.
Whyalla is also home to another rare Australian bird: the red pigeon.
The red pigeon prefers to reside around its only known nesting place; the pelletplant.

cwamit
WA, 1194 posts
3 Jun 2008 8:10AM
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do not wash your kite...it only leads to one thing.....NAGGING...darl can you wash the car....darl the house windows need a wash...darl wash your feet before you come inside the house....nag nag nag....

myusernam
QLD, 6154 posts
6 Jun 2008 11:04AM
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i have never washed anything - lines, harness, board, wetty etc.
Is the consensus that we should be washing our bar and lines?
I't's at least a 20m walk to the tap at my spot.

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
6 Jun 2008 12:26PM
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myusernam said...

i have never washed anything - lines, harness, board, wetty etc.
Is the consensus that we should be washing our bar and lines?
I't's at least a 20m walk to the tap at my spot.


once a month, soak bar and lines in a bucket of water

Glennno
QLD, 124 posts
6 Jun 2008 1:55PM
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I've got cheap crappy solly's rope strung out in the back yard - makes washing really easy if you hang the kite from the bridles.

It's nice putting your kite away with no sand etc but not everyone has the luxury of grass to lay their kite out after a sess. I always have to rinse the sand out of my pulleys after every session - if not something breaks.

bananaboy
QLD, 118 posts
6 Jun 2008 6:48PM
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Rinse you bar and lines, and hang in a dry spot.

Kite - There is a sail wash solution you can buy, go and see some sailor (Helloo Sailor) No.....not that type of sailor, but the guys at a Boating shop....they'll put you onto the right stuff. I only wash the kite when you've got a soggy kite.

I pump the the struts..not the leading edge.

and hang it on a old wooden clothes rack, where the larger middle strut folds over the back, letting the rest to dangle downwards the the floor where the air and the water can escape.
and stow it in the shed where the sun dries it from inside and not direct.

But hey I live in Coolum, and we get the sun...so ask you mates to borrow a sun lamp, Only after his finished cultivating his herb garden.

NOW...... does that once and for all solve this debate....



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