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The poor cousin at Coronation Beach

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Created by LostDog > 9 months ago, 26 Feb 2013
LostDog
WA, 445 posts
26 Feb 2013 1:07PM
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Hey all!
Had epic weekend at Coronation Beach, with 3 "kite-till-you-drop" sessions, followed by great company and enough beer!

The only things that bothers me (albeit only a little) is that the kiters seem to be the poor cousins when it comes to rigging, launching and landing zones. Were any kiters present at the discussions when these rules were made by the Shire? I'm sure the Shire rep is a windsurfer.
Not a big deal though, once on the water it seems as though all get along ok - only had a few words and gesture thrown my way, but typically couldnt understand them so I just smiled and waved! (except for one time...)

SugarQube
WA, 490 posts
26 Feb 2013 1:21PM
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The launching wouldnt be any better from where the windsurfers set up. The launching area is a worry though but thats just the way it is. Once your 50m out its all good

www.waksa.org.au/locations/?view=location&id=22

surfingboye
NSW, 2707 posts
26 Feb 2013 6:44PM
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Isn't the rigging area downwind of the windsurfing area? It wouldn't make sense to put it upwind...

RMS
WA, 22 posts
26 Feb 2013 5:43PM
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A more disturbing issue is the recent influx of aggro Grey Nomads. They usurp the choice camp sites with massive campers, and get very snide when you squeeze a small tent in a corner up against the fence. Wind and kite surfers should be able to claim "native" title.

26 Feb 2013 10:38PM
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Kite rigging spot is in the right place its just ridiculously small, not even a line length wide and deep, surrounded by a treated pine log fence ready to break bones if there is any slip up. Launching area is hell gusty.
Apologies to this older guy, but I have never seen anyone kite with this get up, good on him for having a go, but I really think he needs to be convinced to ditch all of that dodgy "safety" gear. He is launching in the designated kite area!
His kite was a 4m Zeeko, the kite in the background was a 6M cat, I landed a 4.5M RPM, they were all lit on this size kite!! Old mate ended up downwind and back on the beach fairly quickly, someone on the beach was looking out for him.
(Edit) Someone also needs to let him know he has his kite leash hooked up backwards too, he will never be able to reach the release with it rigged behind his back like that.



austin
671 posts
26 Feb 2013 7:51PM
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I typically launch at sunsets or drummonds, much better

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
26 Feb 2013 11:33PM
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Kitepower Australia said...
Kite rigging spot is in the right place its just ridiculously small, not even a line length wide and deep, surrounded by a treated pine log fence ready to break bones if there is any slip up. Launching area is hell gusty.
Apologies to this older guy, but I have never seen anyone kite with this get up, good on him for having a go, but I really think he needs to be convinced to ditch all of that dodgy "safety" gear. He is launching in the designated kite area!
His kite was a 4m Zeeko, the kite in the background was a 6M cat, I landed a 4.5M RPM, they were all lit on this size kite!! Old mate ended up downwind and back on the beach fairly quickly, someone on the beach was looking out for him.






haha good memories... spent a few days at corros and hell my kite skills multiplied... great spot... and yep some old school windsurfers there with territorial pissings..
.. i met that lad when i was there.. hes a windsurfer just learning to kite...
.. i tended to launch further down the beach a bit from the launch area when it got busy depending on how much weed is on the beach and shallows...
anyway back to the point... the launch area could easliy be expanded as the surrounding area is just scrub... could def be improved with some tlc but hey i liked the rugged set up there

ExSurfCentre
WA, 497 posts
26 Feb 2013 9:15PM
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Are they actually shire rules? When I was last there windsurfers told me that you had to kite outside the designated windsurf area, I'm always a bit sceptical when windsurfers claim territory which just so happens to be the best/most convinient spots, you want to sail without crowds and kites stop being sheep and explore a bit downwind or upwind instead of claiming car park beaches....to be honest they can have corros, bit overrated IMO ;-)

Robbo2099
WA, 751 posts
26 Feb 2013 10:56PM
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Was at Coros on Sunday afternoon. No hassles with the poleys at all. Best place to launch is the far north end. 1 min walk from the car park or you can drive up the 4wd track for 100m. No one else there at all; plenty of room to launch. My mate Gav taught me the most awesome self-launch technique--back your 4wd up to the edge of the beach; run your lines perpendicular to the wind; drape you chicken loop over the ball on your tow bar; pull your de-power all the way in; go back to the kite; hold it into the wind with the lines taut; let it go; then walk back to the tow bar; hook into your safety; grab your chicken loop off the tow bar and pop it onto your spreader bar and go! BRILLIANT! Best self-launch technique I've ever seen.

LostDog
WA, 445 posts
27 Feb 2013 9:12AM
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The red thumbs to my initial post must be that some folks think I have an issue with the poleys - not true at all. It was my weak-arse attempt at some humour. Anyway, the jist of it has been said already, I think the rigging area is inadequate and our fellow kiters dont rig-and-leave or land-and-leave but rather leave their kites rigged on the ground, lines layed out, standing around having a chat. With a space like this I don think anyone should be hogging it - quick in and out.

Yes Robbo, next time I'm there I will venture a bit south away from the hordes.

It's a fantastic spot, for me a gentle intro into wave kiting and great flat water for practicing some new moves, but for my more experienced mates some serious breaks and huge air.

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
27 Feb 2013 11:55AM
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Kitepower Australia said...
Kite rigging spot is in the right place its just ridiculously small, not even a line length wide and deep, surrounded by a treated pine log fence ready to break bones if there is any slip up. Launching area is hell gusty.
Apologies to this older guy, but I have never seen anyone kite with this get up, good on him for having a go, but I really think he needs to be convinced to ditch all of that dodgy "safety" gear. He is launching in the designated kite area!
His kite was a 4m Zeeko, the kite in the background was a 6M cat, I landed a 4.5M RPM, they were all lit on this size kite!! Old mate ended up downwind and back on the beach fairly quickly, someone on the beach was looking out for him.
(Edit) Someone also needs to let him know he has his kite leash hooked up backwards too, he will never be able to reach the release with it rigged behind his back like that.






All those injuries are probably from his board leash.....

zboro
WA, 26 posts
27 Feb 2013 2:36PM
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Neck brace?
Duck tape ankle and knee!!!!!!!
is this for real??????

27 Feb 2013 5:40PM
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zboro said...
Neck brace?
Duck tape ankle and knee!!!!!!!
is this for real??????


Yep and unfortunately we had to leave for somewhere else and I did not get a chance to take a shot after his launch. He launched with both hands on one side of the bar then quickly went to "boom" grip one hand up and the other under. He was Ok though and quickly moved into the water, but ended up downwind fairly quickly.

Wish I had time to stay it would have been good to have a chat with him.

SugarQube
WA, 490 posts
27 Feb 2013 3:02PM
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Kitepower Australia said...
zboro said...
Neck brace?
Duck tape ankle and knee!!!!!!!
is this for real??????


Yep and unfortunately we had to leave for somewhere else and I did not get a chance to take a shot after his launch. He launched with both hands on one side of the bar then quickly went to "boom" grip one hand up and the other under. He was Ok though and quickly moved into the water, but ended up downwind fairly quickly.

Wish I had time to stay it would have been good to have a chat with him.



The guys a local and out on the water just about every day, did you guys even have a kite at Coros?

RMS
WA, 22 posts
27 Feb 2013 3:26PM
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Kitepower Australia said...
zboro said...
Neck brace?
Duck tape ankle and knee!!!!!!!
is this for real??????


Yep and unfortunately we had to leave for somewhere else and I did not get a chance to take a shot after his launch. He launched with both hands on one side of the bar then quickly went to "boom" grip one hand up and the other under. He was Ok though and quickly moved into the water, but ended up downwind fairly quickly.

Wish I had time to stay it would have been good to have a chat with him.


He is the King of Coronation (since old Bengt passed away a few years ago) and a good bloke. He can therefore do whatever, whenever, wherever.

Radman
WA, 629 posts
27 Feb 2013 7:59PM
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You've got to be joking

Radman
WA, 629 posts
27 Feb 2013 8:03PM
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All those posts and signs arnt very kite friendly city of herald ton has a bad habit of putting signs inthe road as well[}:)]

bjw
QLD, 3686 posts
28 Feb 2013 4:54PM
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The windsurfers act like wayne-kers at Coro's.

The surf barely breaks where the kiters are allowed. Then if you get too close they scream and carry on like lamb chops.

Another guy told me someone threatened to slash his tires when he parked in the windsurf area (near his windsurfer mates - yet not kiting there).

The windsurfers have the BBQ's, shade areas and surf...

Kiters get ..... a shipping container.

EB
SA, 492 posts
28 Feb 2013 10:34PM
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Radman said...
You've got to be joking


You must be JoKing. Freakin funny.
Be some recycled kiting kit there.

28 Feb 2013 11:23PM
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SugarQube said...
Kitepower Australia said...
zboro said...
Neck brace?
Duck tape ankle and knee!!!!!!!
is this for real??????


Yep and unfortunately we had to leave for somewhere else and I did not get a chance to take a shot after his launch. He launched with both hands on one side of the bar then quickly went to "boom" grip one hand up and the other under. He was Ok though and quickly moved into the water, but ended up downwind fairly quickly.

Wish I had time to stay it would have been good to have a chat with him.



The guys a local and out on the water just about every day, did you guys even have a kite at Coros?



No, but we kited somewhere real close, whats your point? Its irrelevant if he's on the water everyday, he would really benefit from a chat about basic safety stuff and technique.

@RMS
Sure he can do whatever he wants, but someone should have a chat with him, would be sad to see him have a preventable kitemare.

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1397 posts
28 Feb 2013 8:33PM
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Radman said...
All those posts and signs arnt very kite friendly city of herald ton has a bad habit of putting signs inthe road as well[}:)]


Just bear in mind corro is in the Shire of chapman valley, not under city of Gero control. Which may or may not be a good thing! Gero has an extraordinary level of rates, hence loads of money and a workforce of 600 people, so, in theory could do more to improve the place. Mmmm

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1397 posts
28 Feb 2013 8:43PM
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bjw said...

The windsurfers have the BBQ's, shade areas and surf...

Kiters get ..... a shipping container.


What a load of rubbish, those are are all shared facilities. As a windsurfer of some 35 years, and a kiter of 1 year, any conflicts I have seen have absolutely been in the taking the piss category, nothing systemic. There is a major overlap between the 2 sports: people, location, vendors, styles etc and neither should feel any need to compete, segregate or dis.

austin
671 posts
28 Feb 2013 8:50PM
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leave the old boy alone, he's a legend. everybody knows that when corro breaks windmills is much better just downwind. i have found boosting over the locals the best way to mend barriers

LouD
WA, 642 posts
28 Feb 2013 9:17PM
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Kitepower Australia said...
Kite rigging spot is in the right place its just ridiculously small, not even a line length wide and deep, surrounded by a treated pine log fence ready to break bones if there is any slip up. Launching area is hell gusty.
Apologies to this older guy, but I have never seen anyone kite with this get up, good on him for having a go, but I really think he needs to be convinced to ditch all of that dodgy "safety" gear. He is launching in the designated kite area!
His kite was a 4m Zeeko, the kite in the background was a 6M cat, I landed a 4.5M RPM, they were all lit on this size kite!! Old mate ended up downwind and back on the beach fairly quickly, someone on the beach was looking out for him.
(Edit) Someone also needs to let him know he has his kite leash hooked up backwards too, he will never be able to reach the release with it rigged behind his back like that.






Cant believe you guys think its OK to publish photos of someone without their permission and then be critical or negative about them. Has happened a few times with vids as well.

Seriously uncool in my book.

Good on this guy for getting out there.

tightlines
WA, 3502 posts
28 Feb 2013 9:32PM
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+1 LouD.

I'm sure he was enjoying himself and that is the main thing.

1 Mar 2013 10:10AM
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tightlines said...
+1 LouD.

I'm sure he was enjoying himself and that is the main thing.



+1 for that

The photo was posted to demonstrate the size of the kite launching spot, which is crazy small and surrounded by a treated pine log fence which is a completely stupid thing to have there. There is no way I'd launch there, tons of room just down the beach. The council have created a serious safety hazard by installing the log fence, and they could be liable for injuries it causes!
My fellow older kiter (I'm 57) could do with some advice and definitely lose the neck brace as it would severely restrict his movement, let alone be uncomfortable and potentially add more danger and risk of injury that he may think it could prevent.
Couldn't give a damn about the knee brace, wear one myself.
The reel leash is another mega NoNo, and he did not wear a helmet only that grey bucket hat. If you know this guy and you are serious about caring for him, and helping him, have a chat with him and at least get him to lose the leash, the board would always blow back to the beach up there anyway. Get him to put a wheelbarrow tube under the handle, inflate it and this will make his board clearly visible and blow downwind quickly.
And he could definitely use some time learning to fly a kite properly or more confidently, and only ever gripping the bar with hands from the top, never the "boom" grip!

hosh
WA, 242 posts
1 Mar 2013 10:58AM
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Kitepower Australia said...
tightlines said...
+1 LouD.

I'm sure he was enjoying himself and that is the main thing.



+1 for that

The photo was posted to demonstrate the size of the kite launching spot, which is crazy small and surrounded by a treated pine log fence which is a completely stupid thing to have there. There is no way I'd launch there, tons of room just down the beach. The council have created a serious safety hazard by installing the log fence, and they could be liable for injuries it causes!
My fellow older kiter (I'm 57) could do with some advice and definitely lose the neck brace as it would severely restrict his movement, let alone be uncomfortable and potentially add more danger and risk of injury that he may think it could prevent.
Couldn't give a damn about the knee brace, wear one myself.
The reel leash is another mega NoNo, and he did not wear a helmet only that grey bucket hat. If you know this guy and you are serious about caring for him, and helping him, have a chat with him and at least get him to lose the leash, the board would always blow back to the beach up there anyway. Get him to put a wheelbarrow tube under the handle, inflate it and this will make his board clearly visible and blow downwind quickly.
And he could definitely use some time learning to fly a kite properly or more confidently, and only ever gripping the bar with hands from the top, never the "boom" grip!



No It wasn't. If you posted the pic to show the launch area then why isn't the whole launch area shown. That's how a viewer would get a idea of the size of the square. I sense some back pedaling in progress.

BTW never had a drama there with either the launch or the locals.

1 Mar 2013 5:02PM
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hosh said...
Kitepower Australia said...
tightlines said...
+1 LouD.

I'm sure he was enjoying himself and that is the main thing.



+1 for that

The photo was posted to demonstrate the size of the kite launching spot, which is crazy small and surrounded by a treated pine log fence which is a completely stupid thing to have there. There is no way I'd launch there, tons of room just down the beach. The council have created a serious safety hazard by installing the log fence, and they could be liable for injuries it causes!
My fellow older kiter (I'm 57) could do with some advice and definitely lose the neck brace as it would severely restrict his movement, let alone be uncomfortable and potentially add more danger and risk of injury that he may think it could prevent.
Couldn't give a damn about the knee brace, wear one myself.
The reel leash is another mega NoNo, and he did not wear a helmet only that grey bucket hat. If you know this guy and you are serious about caring for him, and helping him, have a chat with him and at least get him to lose the leash, the board would always blow back to the beach up there anyway. Get him to put a wheelbarrow tube under the handle, inflate it and this will make his board clearly visible and blow downwind quickly.
And he could definitely use some time learning to fly a kite properly or more confidently, and only ever gripping the bar with hands from the top, never the "boom" grip!



No It wasn't. If you posted the pic to show the launch area then why isn't the whole launch area shown. That's how a viewer would get a idea of the size of the square. I sense some back pedaling in progress.

BTW never had a drama there with either the launch or the locals.



Haha! Yeah of course, you must be able to read minds, I should have known that. Read the thread. I'd literally visited days before and had snapped the pic, because as I said I'd never seen anyone kite with that level of "protection", but incidentally I had a shot of the said launch area, and I posted the pic for that reason. I have some other shots of the launch area too, but I guess you know they all contain my fellow older kiter!
If I wanted to make fun of the kiter I would have said so and would have started a thread on its own. The pic was otherwise for my own collection. Most of the pics I take are never seen by others, other than some products and teamriders on my website or on FB page to share with other photographers.

While I was there I landed 3 kiters, the landing and launching zone is positioned in a hell gusty spot (wind had a fair bit of S that day though) and it was impossible to tell if the kite being landed would come down into my arms or 4-5M upwind/downwind.
When locals were launching they took the kite downwind towards the beach where the air was a bit cleaner, but everyone I watched looked like they were about to detonate a bomb they were standing a bit close to, solid 35-40+ knots, 4 and 5M kites!!
Clearly the launch area could be better positioned and there is no way it needs a bone breaking pine fence around it.
If as you say our fellow older kiter should be allowed to do what he wants then how about just leaving him out of this discussion and stick to the thread topic?

JOYRIDER
705 posts
1 Mar 2013 2:35PM
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Kitepower Australia said...







more to the point how's the dude with the pink zinc in the background.

makes the poor old dude, dressed as a GIJOE, look normal.

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
1 Mar 2013 7:24PM
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Thats a chick

stabber
NSW, 1114 posts
1 Mar 2013 7:48PM
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I recon post more photos and flame away....gives me a break from looking at the friggin rain.....

And lets face it, if a person's a knob....they're a knob....there's no sugar coating it.



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