Hi every one
When we have the westerly wind in Perth at the above mentioned location wind is side shore, is there any legal issues for kite surfing there?
There's a nice big park with a sandy shore.
Cheers
Alex
I don't believe so - but keep well clear of the ferry channels
It's pretty gusty in Westerlies until you get out in the middle but not bad in ENE - NE
Lucky,
As I was driving past on my way home from work some tourist kook decided to unhook and ditch his kite while standing next to his car on the grass at Melv. ****ing seriously, 55knt mega front, dead onshore and one space cadet decides this is the place to session on his own.
Over it.
Dude, what are you on about? You just responded and bumped the post up? PM me if your so enlightened on the situation down there? Kiting should be totally banned there in winter to ensure access is maintained over the consistent and safe summer period. Period.
Go read up on some of the similar issues the Gorge crew are having. Perhaps some Inept-style localism is in order? www.nwkite.com/forums/t-15052.html
For the record I did stop and tell the punter the local go and help him out. I also had a somewhat constructive conversation with the homeowners who were less than impressed with the situation.
The council (Melville) needs to pull their head out and stick in the damn information signs everyones been asking for since when, 2006? PM me if you want the contact details for the Councilor in charge of the matter. Perhaps someone will have more success than me...
Ladies..
Boy there I was the other day thinking geez - it's been a while since there was a full-on Melville based dummy spit!
EVERYONE gets fatigued trying to clue in the clueless (and being basically told to fek orf 9 outta 10 times) eventualy..
What av you done for world peace lately tomas?
...er...just for clarity...do I understand from tomasb's post that kiting is not allowed at Melville in winter?
Just curious - I'm a Melville kiter (beginner - summer only) and this is news to me. If its true, then yep, we need some signs.
Heeding the ever looming outright Council ban at Melville, one is only to kite there during periods of consistent thermal summer winds. Further, when doing so they are to keep outside the three yellow buoys during their session and only come inside to launch and land. Never fly your kite on the road side in close other than to land. Pick up your rubbish and respect the local residents when parking.
I freakin hate any governance on my hobbies and most rules in general actually. It pains me to come across as some kite regulation despotic megalomanic. But if it's this or no kite beach I'll wear it.
Sorry for the thread hijack, you can have it back now.
LOLing at this thread.
There are no official rules that say no kiting at Melville during winter.
However common sense should prevail lol
Lucky Fat Mikes not in the least bit interested in cred on seabreeze and more concerned about keeping his local open.
If calling someone out during a fit of frustrated rage gets people taking, I'll suffer.
Props Trent for owning up, but seriously man... Melville on a day like that. NO other kiters on the water, kite in a front yard with lines across the road during a winter front. Ignorance is no excuse.
Arh **** it.
gettin a little OT here 
Kad - the first time you fall in that urinal city pond... you'll understand why no one kites in it.
Theres a much better spot to kite at - and if anyone wants to know where
youll have to PM me, Its not for learners, Super Duper heroes, villains or kooks though 
and you will most probably die or be maimed if your not SuperFly at 'self rescue'
I will however Rescue your board for the 50 quid Reward though
No, it is not a law that kiting is not allowed at Melville in winter as far (as I am aware), however it is, I believe, a WAKSA recommendation for good reason.
It is suppose to be spring now anyway so what is it with these conditions.
Back on topic, I work in Perth and have often wondered about kiting on Perth water and I don't think there is anything stopping us as long as common sense is used.
However having seen the results of water quality testing for the area, I think I will stick to the ocean.
Actually, they could sell this design to the other councils by using a simple modification on the line:
ATTENTION!!
KITING IS ONLY ALLOWED ON THE MELVILLE PERTH COTTESLOE MULLALOO LEIGHTON FORESHORE:
It'd be so cheap to mass produce these in China (spk to the bloke on eBay, I'm sure he could do a deal - no Paypal) and these signs will be everywhere by the first seabreeze!
I don't see the problem with not having signs there, after all, it has worked for the past 8 years.. and every single year kiters talk about how it will get banned etc ....
The threat to all kitesurfing spots is the inexperienced people choosing to ignore their instructors / and other peoples advise and take greater risk, sometimes without realising, and stuff like this happens. The rest of us that have an idea and make a decision to kite somewhere, should not be disadvantaged by the minority.
There are FAR more kitemare stories about stuff going down there in the summer than in the winter anyhow....
The lady with the camera should be about ready to release her first dvd by now you would have thought :)
Dudes. There ARE signs there...........
Look on the other side of the no standing /parking on verge signs and facing the water it says something like "caution kitesurfing area". These signs were finally put up 6 months after the council meeting arount april. They were not taken down over winter and therefore there is probably some ambiguity about when you should kite.
Trent
"2) "ditch his kite while standing next to his car"??? I've been asking that lady with the camera to ignore this incident (kite fell into her yard)"
That is so not cool. you put your car across a main road and got pictures of yourself taken by the main complainer that we have had to deal with for the last 4 years personally. Direct onshore you could of dropped your kite in the water, on the sand and wound your lines in, whatever. You will be another direct issue that the melville locals will have to deal with and you will just move on. No sympathy, cant self launch, cant self land, kiting by yourself on a narrow beach directly onshore.
Who cares if Fat mike has exaggerated the facts a little, you F@RKED UP
I went down there to check out the signs, yep still there.
Please anyone who kites there and cares about the place. REFUSE to launch/land people if they are in the wrong area. As I rocked up a guy on a white and black cabrinha cross/switchy (I have pictures). got launched, The idiot was standing between the path and the road, thee guy let go the kite flew over the road, showering the parked cars with sand and salt water. Two cars who were also driving along the road braked hard cause of the kite and got showered in crap.
He didint seem interested when I called out to him as I got out of the car.
Unless a guy is in the water and the kite is on the sand please refuse to launch and explain the rules.(probably a good idea everywhere not just melville
So which biatch got slapped?
Personally I respect Mike cause it takes guts to have hair like that in a town over run with cashed up (peroxided) boguns. He also has my recalcitrant self reaching for the theasaurus - whereas most of you numbnuts have me reaching for the barf bag.
Just my 2 seasonaly adjusted sense 
I dunno whether the bloke was a touro or even in the wrong but it seemed to be a decent scrag fight either way.
BTW I have never bothered to kite the river cause:
A) It is boring flatwater with dingle-dangle tools in abundance in (usually) a small area.
B) There are far too many nasty objects including, boats, signs, cars, more cars, CUB compensation vehicles, BBQs, kids, dogs, houses, big kn CUB houses and the prev mentioned dingle-dangle tools.
C) The wind is gusty as sh!te
D) The natives are hostile
E) The trees are hungry
F) Have you noticed how many kms of awesome beaches there are in Perf??
E) All of the above
Seeya next Wednesday. 
<<Wonder if anyone gets that ref BTW?
so, after all this, we've come to the conclusion that: what? peopl should launch? from where? obviously in appropriate wind conditions for a very start but i always launch with my kite on the beach and me in the water? is this wrong in some opinions? if the wind conditions aren't ridiculous i would think this is the safest way? and when i say i'm in the water i mean so far out that my launchee is on the edge of the water...
tgladman- You are pretty much right ref launching at Melville.
If you are standing out in the water and your launcher is right on the edge of the water, even if you cock up the launch, you have got some leeway to sort yourself out. The other way around and your kite gets into someone's garden if you overfly it...
Be prepared to go to safety IMMEDIATELY if it is going wrong, there is no space to try and get it right before things have gone completely pear shaped.
Added hint (from locals in my 1st season), take your board out with you when launching, dont try and walk back in to collect it from the beach after the launch, as this is also when trouble strikes- and you also clog the launch zone.
If walking back upwind, have your kite over the water, not the road (and the kite-eating trees).
Beginers north (downwind) of the big gum tree.
And finally, if you are not very confident, dont go out at Melville on anything more onshore than cross-on, as that lady's garden eats kites in anything more westerly than pure SW!
Fat mike, its good to see someone go to the effort of writing a thesis (again) on this topic. Melville council installed these tiny signs on the back of the no parking/standing signs, with no months, no warnings, AT the end of the season. Many local are still unaware that they were even put up.
"I know that this incident is my fault and there is no excuse but you are a sick person for coming here and lie about everything to make you self look smart and every one else like idiots.
If you need self confidence don't practice it on me."
you have support, from all the locals and responsible kiters who want to continue to use this location, both for teaching in a responsible manner and guys that want a quick arvo session before heading home...
From a local idiot.
P.S. As for the local council I dont think Janet Woolard got voted back in. Wasn't it her son involved in a boating incident?? Dr Keith Woolard the Cardiovascular Specialist, well thats another story...Pharmaceutical Pimp. (dont worry Laurie it's not defammatory if you have the paperwork which was sent out to many GP's).
I will post the most confusing sign by meliville city council tomorrow, it's a joke.....................................................
Rockin stuff Dave, I just feel like a total kook whining on about it. I'd rather just be kiting...
