Hey guys,
I am a clubbie at Scarborough if you need someone to get names and numbers of people to speak to. PM me if you need a hand with anything.
Good work Matt - and very timely.
We have been watching your thread very closely since it began.
The idea of a Scarborough Beach Kiter Group was raised at the WAKSA AGM back in April where it was considered by some present as a necessary priority for WAKSA attention. Ian Grose, from Airborne Kitesurfing, offered his shop as a possible venue for a meeting which was to be advertised to members and the kiting public before the issue was taken any further. The new committee decided that, due to possible lack of interest during winter, this matter would be better addressed once the season got underway. We were about to do just that. We have already opened a Scarborough Beach User Group section within the forum on www.waksa.org.au in anticipation of this action.
Given the impetus suggested directly by our membership; and now combined with the interest shown in your independent action; it is obviously "time". Your planned beach meeting on Sunday 23rd Nov can be fully supported by WAKSA as our response to your call, as well as our response to the original motion from the AGM. As 'Green Pat' noted we do have a short downwinder planned for that day which was already to be centred around Brighton. To combine a meeting at the conclusion of that event would be a mutually beneficial arrangement. Short downwinders are specifically designed to allow for maximum participation so it should attract the largest participation rate of any WAKSA event - skill wise - hence more at the meeting.
WAKSA can assist by putting on the traditional BBQ at the completion of the kite from Floreat or City Beach.
We can include details of the concerns and the meeting along with the downwinder details on our website 'events' news.
We can have reps in attendance who can offer feedback from actions taken on previous areas of concern - eg Cott. Pelican Pt. & Melville etc.
We can offer first hand & organisational support to establish a permanent kiter group at that location - if this is requested by the meeting.
We can offer funding for any initiatives we feel are in accordance with our mandate to protect beach access.
We see support of positive, kiter initiated actions from meetings of this type as the core responsibility of WAKSA.
With more direct consultation we can put together a schedule and agenda for your meeting which can be published here on Seabreeze as it falls into place. We can also advertise the event on the WAKSA website and include full details in a mailout planned for this week.
NB: It should be noted that WAKSA has no agenda of its own in these situations. We are offering support for local kiters, not a formula or an attitude other than promotion of kite safety & maintaining access everywhere possible.
Tops 
My 2c would be attempting to move the land/launch area at least 50m south of the kiosk.
Win-win for kites vs joe public and also gives a bit more useable area for those staying upwind before they are in the Radison/Scabs flagged area making all n sundry think kiters are tools.
It's starting to come together a bit now, thanks WAKSA
Getfunky; hopefully you will be able to attend and voice your opinion, I think it will definetly be a point that will be raised, but we will see what everyone else has to say on the matter and hopefully we can all come to an agreement that will work for all beach users,
I hope to see you all down there on Sunday
, I think I will start praying to Huey for wind,
Regards
Matt
Can I just clarify that WAKSA are going to do all those things listed above? WAKSA, if you are waiting for the OK from someone(s), you've got it from me!
OK, I counted about 14 individuals on this thread including Jeffsan (SLSC) who would be Scarbs kiters. If this affects you at all and you haven't posted a reply, please do!
Vishy / WAKSA,
... is there a date for the meeting?
... has someone contacted Jeffsan?
Cheers in advance for the info. 
It seems to me that despite the economic slowdown, the third quarter straight of property price drops and uncertainty in the resources industry, Scarborough is still a suburb stuck in the 80s (not unlike lots of Perth). Given its location and attractions I think there's a good chance it will start to catch up soon. The Cevue
www.cevue.com.au/ development and the latest changeshttp://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=109842 to amendment 458
www.stirling.wa.gov.au/Amendment+458/ say to me that there will one day be a whole lot more people on that beach whether we like it or not. If we get organised now we can be established and ready for it.
I don't want to suggest a date for the meeting, or take a leading role in the group - I am overcommitted as it is - but I am quite prepared to help with what I can and Tuesdays after work are good for me...
Im keen to see something happen, because it's only a matter of time before some makes a stuff up and stuff's it up for every one .
Happy to help out. Think we need to get numbers not only from kiters, but all tax payers living in a fee democratic society, and the best place on earth. Our coast is going to get more crowded and kiting is going to keep growing.....almost everyone really wants to do it I'm afraid.
I strongly believe that if it came to referendum and all us water users got motived to get signatures, the numbers would be very strong in our favor. But there is always a price to compromise (like tags, and a different one for each location.....kite tax...just for you Slave
) to be paid.....it will be a sad day if I have to move to be closer to better kiting.......Gero attracts.
Keep this great land how it is, all of us (that certainly includes non kiters and people who hate kites) can figure this one out...I really believe that our policy makers do not make decisions that would not involve asking all the stake holders and not just listen to "the vocal minority" before getting the real facts.
My rant for today....need wind.
Nick
Pat is on the money (er.. except the crack about Perf being in the 80s - clearly we have made it to the early 90s). Scabs area just had new rules allowing 12 story developments passed this week. Watch them pop up like Sunday morning barker's eggs onya lawn. 
Take some snappies of the Scabbies area now because in 3-4 yrs you probably won't recognise the place at all and the crowds will no doubt be much, much thicker (and numerous too ).
Move now and establish good will and behaviour in the area and we may have somewhere to kite in a few years. Let it slide and there is no way the chips will fall in our favour.
I reckon we need to get passed the warm fuzzy meetings and onto something concrete in direction before the end of this season.
