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Prepare to be screwed by Qantas

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Created by Saffer > 9 months ago, 8 Apr 2009
Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Apr 2009 2:27PM
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http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,28318,25277676-5014090,00.html?referrer=email&source=eDM_travel

Qantas is set to reduce the weight you get charged for on domestic flights. Previously you could get away with 32kg's, but now its 23kg's. That means if you're carrying 10kg's of kiting gear, prepared to get slapped with a $100 fee each way!

So, added to the list of airlines to avoid while travelling with gear are:

Qantas
Jetstar

Lets hope Virgin continue to keep their sporting gear policy.

cRAZY Canuk
NSW, 2528 posts
8 Apr 2009 2:49PM
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Virgin Changed there bagage policy last August

Instead of getting all your sports gear to count as 5kg of your total - you get 5kg extra added to you total to you get 28kg included in your fees

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Apr 2009 2:52PM
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cRAZY Canuk said...

Virgin Changed there bagage policy last August

Instead of getting all your sports gear to count as 5kg of your total - you get 5kg extra added to you total to you get 28kg included in your fees


They still give you an extra 5kg's which takes it up to 28kgs. That's 5 more than qantas and 8 more than jetstar.

cRAZY Canuk
NSW, 2528 posts
8 Apr 2009 2:55PM
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Yeah but it's no were near as good as it used to be - would have thought with oil taking a tanking they could up the bagage limits again

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
8 Apr 2009 1:29PM
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cRAZY Canuk said...

Yeah but it's no were near as good as it used to be - would have thought with oil taking a tanking they could up the bagage limits again


Not gonna happen mate, they're becomming like the banks, all over the world too. greedy b**tards.

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KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
8 Apr 2009 4:35PM
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Next they'll be charging passengers by weight!

Aorta
VIC, 244 posts
8 Apr 2009 4:44PM
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im off to Byron on Tiger soon, what is their baggage policy like?
I cant believe she booked us with tiger tbh, i have heard so many stories about them, none good.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
8 Apr 2009 4:48PM
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There is more than one way to skin a cat
23 kg is heaps for kite gear .Make sure that you use your carry on allowance of 7 kgs to the max .That's how its been with jetstar for a while and I have been able to get 2 kites board bar etc on

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Apr 2009 5:47PM
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Mr float said...

There is more than one way to skin a cat
23 kg is heaps for kite gear .Make sure that you use your carry on allowance of 7 kgs to the max .That's how its been with jetstar for a while and I have been able to get 2 kites board bar etc on


Guess my bindings are coming with me as hand luggage. If anyone complains I'll walk onto the plane wearing them as shoes :p

Glennno
QLD, 124 posts
8 Apr 2009 5:51PM
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I fly in/out of work monthly and take 2 kites, one board and laptop, clothes etc. My kite board bag which has 1 lite, bar lines pump board and some clothes weighs in at 19kg. I carry on my 9 meter kite and laptop thats how I get away with it.

onemorehuey
NSW, 158 posts
8 Apr 2009 6:35PM
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Do those 'golf bags' work for airlines that have golf club concessions?

cheers

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
8 Apr 2009 6:41PM
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KIT33R said...

Next they'll be charging passengers by weight!


Not such a silly idea actually (unless you are at the top end of the bell curve or course)

Just get the passenger to stand on a big set of scales with all their luggage and there's your bill.

Chris_M
2132 posts
8 Apr 2009 5:22PM
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Have been using a mates golf bag when travelling internationally - gives you an extra 10kgs to play with, golf clubs and bicycles have some weird rule that means you are alowed an extra 10kg if you take them on the plane with you. Never really got to test the theory cos each time ive weighed in its only been like 22kg and the check in staff are like "dont worry". They often ask if its golf clubs and I say "yes its a golf bag", omitting the fact that the said bag contains no clubs.
Closest Ive come to being busted was when the security dude at the oversize baggage check in had a chuckle when he watched the bag go thru the x-ray machine.

Glennno
QLD, 124 posts
8 Apr 2009 8:54PM
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Quantas international are shockers $50 a kilo over your small allowance. Last time I flew with them international they wouldn't give ANY discount for sporting goods, and that was 2 years ago.

Caesar
QLD, 109 posts
3 May 2009 9:57AM
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Chris_M said...

Have been using a mates golf bag when travelling internationally - gives you an extra 10kgs to play with, golf clubs and bicycles have some weird rule that means you are alowed an extra 10kg if you take them on the plane with you. Never really got to test the theory cos each time ive weighed in its only been like 22kg and the check in staff are like "dont worry". They often ask if its golf clubs and I say "yes its a golf bag", omitting the fact that the said bag contains no clubs.
Closest Ive come to being busted was when the security dude at the oversize baggage check in had a chuckle when he watched the bag go thru the x-ray machine.


Who gives 10kg extra on Golf gear?

kiterdan
WA, 679 posts
3 May 2009 9:53AM
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Getting into Chile with double coffin surf board bag from LA - oversize = $100US.
Getting out of Peru with same double coffin surf board gag to LA - oversize =$250US.
Living in Chile and Peru for 3 weeks (presents, accommodation, transport & food) = $300US.
Giving said bag to girlfriend to take back to Australia while I go snowboarding - cost her only $50 AUS for LA-Sydney-Perth. Low cut tops and boobs go a long way.

Fooosh
WA, 563 posts
3 May 2009 4:28PM
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kiterdan said...

Low cut tops and boobs go a long way.


I'm gonna get me some.

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
3 May 2009 7:45PM
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Fooosh said...

kiterdan said...

Low cut tops and boobs go a long way.


I'm gonna get me some.


go lower and bigger, but make sure you get those in the right order!

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
3 May 2009 8:15PM
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2 cougars thanks

fly guy
NSW, 151 posts
3 May 2009 9:18PM
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Yeah I flew from the states to Australia with Qantas with a coffin with 4 surf boards, two kites and kite board. The chick asked howmany surf boards I had in the bag, I said 2 and thats all she charged me for.
She didnt look in the bag and luckly she didnt weigh it and only charged me $50 a board.
It all depends on the mood of the person on the day

doonas_r_cool
132 posts
4 May 2009 7:22AM
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Aorta said...

im off to Byron on Tiger soon, what is their baggage policy like?
I cant believe she booked us with tiger tbh, i have heard so many stories about them, none good.


Tiger are actually pretty good, they give you the option to buy sporting goods extra luggage, which is worth doing, (inside tip there is no weight cap on it as long as it is only one item)

The charge is per sector ie each flight, so pay that, and yes they will weigh your hand luggage and if you are over 7kgs, they will make you put it in your check in luggage, and if that is over, then that is where they make their profits.

Simple solution, get some scales and weigh all your baggage before you get to the airport, might save you mega bucks, and read each airline policy on luggage. Being polite at the check in counter never hurts either.

And if you are going to Byron, whatever you do, don't kite where you are not allowed too.... and happy travels!!!

peanuticus
NSW, 341 posts
4 May 2009 11:25AM
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if going international to the north side of the sphere go via the US and the allowance is 32kg i believe.

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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4 May 2009 9:40AM
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peanuticus said...

if going international to the north side of the sphere go via the US and the allowance is 32kg i believe.


Be careful with any american airline they charge on Girth if it is larger than the average bag. Ie, they measure around the circumference of the bag and charge accordingly. I was charged $400 U$D for a Flying Objects Cheeseburger one way to Hawaii one time which sucked because the dollar was at about 60 cents

Read their baggage allowance CAREFULLY and carry a credit card with you just in case.

Good winds,

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
4 May 2009 12:16PM
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Mr float said...

There is more than one way to skin a cat
23 kg is heaps for kite gear .Make sure that you use your carry on allowance of 7 kgs to the max .That's how its been with jetstar for a while and I have been able to get 2 kites board bar etc on


To Indo on Jetstar-I get two surfboards, a North R/Fish 509 kiteboard and 3 kites-and all the other crap in an O&E 7' triple bag-and pay NO excess baggage-there are tricks to it.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
4 May 2009 12:45PM
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I have flown back and forth from London - Melbourne a few times and I have never been charged excess. One way with Malaysian and the other two times with Qantas. On my home trip from London - Melbourne (January) with Qantas I just had my kite bag and a carry on. The kite bag weighed 29 kg and the guys just checked it through as business class luggage. I have a Naish golf bag, it has paid for itself.

I think the best things to do are:

-Rock up very close to the counter closing time. If it is going to delay you getting to the flight by paying for your excess they book you on, they may not charge you. (Often you have to go off to a separate counter to pay and that adds delays)

-Have all your details close to hand so you aren't mucking the check in person around. Make you check-in as smooth as possible for the staff. Don't give the staff any grief.

-Look neat and tidy, as though you have money to give the airlines repeat business.

If the flight is fully booked I think you stand better chances with the luggage as well, since all the seats are sold on the aircraft. If the flight was only 50% booked, the operator will be looking for ways to squeeze more money from the flight. Given that airlines are currently cutting their flights and putting seats on sale the baggage policy is probably linked to this.

Remember, its a game you are playing to minimise your excess baggage charges, if you don't get away with it, don't take it personally. Some times you win (all the time for me so far) some times you lose.

If you think Qantas or Jetstar are bad you should try fliying Ryanair. They charge for EVERYTHING, if you don't have an EU pasport you pay an extra 5 pound to check in manually at the airport instead of printing your own boarding pass! You even pay to check a single bag in the hold, 20 quid for a snowboard or kitebag, no exceptions.

wal269
WA, 718 posts
4 May 2009 12:42PM
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My GF is a former hosty, so i like to think that is how I get mine back if they screw me.

sebbu
WA, 154 posts
4 May 2009 5:05PM
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wal269 said...

My GF is a former hosty, so i like to think that is how I get mine back if they screw me.


BAAAAHAHAHA

General
WA, 471 posts
4 May 2009 5:13PM
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faarrk ive never known its been 32kg ive always thought it was 23kg, why have i been packing so light, at least it wont effect me

gorilla
WA, 48 posts
4 May 2009 5:51PM
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It's no longer 32kg, it's definitely 23kg. I thought the same thing and got caught on a trip to Canada at the beginning of the year and had to cough up. Couldn't even try and repack as I didn't want to draw attention to my "golf bag". But the upside is it's 2 pieces of 23kg each if you're travelling to North America and generally if you confirm beforehand "snow gear" doesn't attract extra charges

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
4 May 2009 11:26PM
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virgin were awsome on my flite to brissy.. didnt even way my "golf" bag.. i weighed in on a total of 6kg...

on the way home i packed different thinking il have something similar with qantas... noo... noo ... they fisted me good and proper...

imagine... at airport... half drunk still.. no cash left... 10kg over... waht does a young man do? put 12 shirts, 3 pairs of boardies 2 pairs of shorts under his jeans on... pack his heaviest kit (binding base plates and a 12m ktie) into his hand luggage cramming as much as he can in.. then weighing back in again at 7kg over.. geting absolutely no help from the fatty on the other side... get money from rents pay it then quickly unload all that shiz back into the bag.. haha 10kg over once more... or actually probably more like 12kg with all the clothes n stuff...


so moral is... qantas is crap.
virgin kicks arse.

enicao
WA, 77 posts
5 May 2009 12:54AM
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my advice, book your flight at the worst hour possible, like 2AM, the plane will not be as full as a day flight, so it's easier to take more weight for free.

in the last 3 years I have done, paris-dubai-perth, perth-cairns, weipa-cairns, cairns-perth, perth-kuala lumpur-paris, paris-kualalumpur-perth.

for all this flights I paid 30$ extra only on weipa-cairns, because there is only one flight a day and it was full.
I often had more than 20kg above the limit, but the plane was nearly empty.

another thing, take a big carry-on luggage, leave some of your heavy stuff(ie lap top) to a friend , and put your heavy stuff in your carry-on after it has been weighted.



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