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Created by Saffer > 9 months ago, 29 Sep 2012
Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Sep 2012 2:38PM
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Bom radar showing hectic storm coming in. You could see it moving over the water, in fact, it was so obvious that even a blind leprechaun could have seen it. The warning signs are there and yet when the storm hits you suddenly see a couple of people desperately trying to get people to land their kites in 45 knots of wind as if they suddenly realise "wow, so that's what that black cloud was moving with white mist on the water was"

Is that extra 5 minutes of kiting that important?

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
29 Sep 2012 1:12PM
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It's called natural selection saffer. Although i remember in 2001 being a two line fixed foil, first ever winter and ending up holding onto a dune bush as a 50 knot gust hit. Lucky the safety rope, if you call it that, the rope that kept you continually attached to the kite(now that's a death leash waveslave ), snapped.

dafrog
321 posts
29 Sep 2012 1:22PM
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Saffer said...
Is that extra 5 minutes of kiting that important?


Yes this is how most improve their jumping skills... [}:)]

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
29 Sep 2012 5:13PM
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At least they are out there

dafrog
321 posts
29 Sep 2012 3:43PM
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suniboy21 said...

At least they are out there


picturing you at a desk looking with puppy eyes out the window, hearing the wind moaning and calling your name... well it will be summer soon!

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Sep 2012 6:25PM
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suniboy21 said...

At least they are out there


There are plenty of kiting days. I'd rather spend the crappy ones with my family and then kite the good days.

tarzan
VIC, 133 posts
29 Sep 2012 6:29PM
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Spot on saffer. Was considering going for a kite until I checked out the massive front this morning. We all agreed that there are better days- storm fronts like this must be avoided. Better to go out after it's settled in - ie Sunday.
Great opportunity to build up kiting credits.

PoleTroll
36 posts
29 Sep 2012 4:42PM
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you guys are weak a piss.
ooo it's too windy i'm gonna stay in bed and pull the doona over my head.
pffft

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Sep 2012 6:55PM
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PoleTroll said...

you guys are weak a piss.
ooo it's too windy i'm gonna stay in bed and pull the doona over my head.
pffft



I'm not saying don't go out, I'm saying don't stay out when you can see a squall line moving towards you. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity, staying out till a squall hits is the latter.

These are the conditions where things go wrong. The one thing I noticed about other extreme sports is they seem to attract a far more intelligent participant. Ever noticed how base jumpers, hangliders, etc are very selective about the conditions they go out in? They value their lives. Kiters don't seem to have the same appreciate for mother nature.

Happy to go out in windy conditions, I just don't pick the days where you can see squalls moving in and you know 50 knot gusts are headed your way.

sebol
WA, 753 posts
29 Sep 2012 5:01PM
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50 Knots,sweet,just bought a 4 meter REO for my daughter 3 days ago, maybe,I can actually use it myself

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
29 Sep 2012 7:33PM
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PoleTroll said...

well who cares really just read the username and move on


harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
29 Sep 2012 7:35PM
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I had a good session from11 -12:30. A little gusty and fn cold but lotsa boooost

csjena
VIC, 249 posts
29 Sep 2012 8:07PM
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suniboy21 said...

At least they are out there


I'm with you! I was building Shilds and swords for the kids.
Got 2 sets done and was always looking at the wind! NIce ,hmmm.
But when you see the kids eyes...priceless...
I probably got some bonus points from the missus...

And than I tought that I should use this skills to build a board...

I hope you guys had a good day out there! Was somebody in Rosebud?
Should be pretty nice till noon....

CU CS

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
29 Sep 2012 6:24PM
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sebol said...
50 Knots,sweet,just bought a 4 meter REO for my daughter 3 days ago, maybe,I can actually use it myself




How olds ya daughter mate? Not sure when to get mine and my so started.

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
29 Sep 2012 8:07PM
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... meh,,,,, some pack up when storms come in,,,,,,,, and some rig up!





... nah, but seriously, don't be stoopid guys, Saffer's right!

GreenGriff
SA, 137 posts
29 Sep 2012 8:30PM
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goes without saying Darwinian's are crazy the humidity dehydrates them and leaves only the alcohol

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Sep 2012 9:01PM
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Puetz said...

... meh,,,,, some pack up when storms come in,,,,,,,, and some rig up!


And this is what the result is

SUPSurferQLD
QLD, 333 posts
29 Sep 2012 9:48PM
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breakzmaker said...

Saffer said...

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PoleTroll said...

you guys are weak a piss.
ooo it's too windy i'm gonna stay in bed and pull the doona over my head.
pffft




Happy to go out in windy conditions, I just don't pick the days where you can see squalls moving in and you know 50 knot gusts are headed your way.


+1.

I think the majority of these idiots have never ridden in anything over 25kts, never had to pull their safety, never flown an overpowered kite, or have a kite death loop them into a brick wall etc. - That said, i'd almost gaurantee they dont check the forecast.

It's all experience. Most kiters I know would not enjoy being dragged from behind by their death looping kite, up onto a beach and into a parked car. But perhaps that's what it takes for some people to think.

Plummet
4862 posts
29 Sep 2012 8:27PM
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I've had some of my best days in squally conditions!. rig a kite that can handle the biggest gust of the day or land your kite well before every time a sqaull roles in.

moons
WA, 349 posts
29 Sep 2012 11:02PM
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PoleTroll said...

you guys are weak a piss.
ooo it's too windy i'm gonna stay in bed and pull the doona over my head.
pffft



GOLD

sebol
WA, 753 posts
30 Sep 2012 12:23AM
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eppo said...

sebol said...
50 Knots,sweet,just bought a 4 meter REO for my daughter 3 days ago, maybe,I can actually use it myself




How olds ya daughter mate? Not sure when to get mine and my so started.


11, but she weights only 28kg!!!!,bought a 5 meter for her last year but she was flying up to the sky in 15 knots while i was holding the harness

I hope that the brand new REO 4 will do the job

pearl
NSW, 984 posts
30 Sep 2012 2:32AM
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Plummet said...

I've had some of my best days in squally conditions!. rig a kite that can handle the biggest gust of the day or land your kite well before every time a sqaull roles in.


Careful when kiting some northern areas doing this. Ahead or on the edge of these storms there can be lightning strikes. The pack up well before is the key Just sayin!

Plummet
4862 posts
30 Sep 2012 3:29AM
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pearl said...

Plummet said...

I've had some of my best days in squally conditions!. rig a kite that can handle the biggest gust of the day or land your kite well before every time a sqaull roles in.


Careful when kiting some northern areas doing this. Ahead or on the edge of these storms there can be lightning strikes. The pack up well before is the key Just sayin!


It depends on the day and the type of storm. Yep you wont catch me kiting when thunder clouds are rolling in. But i will be kiting on days of microbursts with clear skys.

Storm kiting is exhilerating. there are definately days here that can be predicted and kited in. but you need a fair bit of experience and know when to say when.

General rule of thumb. If the clouds are black and angry. put your kite down.

dorothyinste
QLD, 481 posts
30 Sep 2012 7:08AM
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Ain't nobody got time for dat!

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
30 Sep 2012 9:31AM
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Plummet said...

pearl said...

Plummet said...

I've had some of my best days in squally conditions!. rig a kite that can handle the biggest gust of the day or land your kite well before every time a sqaull roles in.


Careful when kiting some northern areas doing this. Ahead or on the edge of these storms there can be lightning strikes. The pack up well before is the key Just sayin!


It depends on the day and the type of storm. Yep you wont catch me kiting when thunder clouds are rolling in. But i will be kiting on days of microbursts with clear skys.

Storm kiting is exhilerating. there are definately days here that can be predicted and kited in. but you need a fair bit of experience and know when to say when.

General rule of thumb. If the clouds are black and angry. put your kite down.




The storm front itself isn't a problem. The issue I have is when you see a line moving towards you on the water and you know the squall is going to hit and the idiots stay out there until it hits and then try desperately to get their kites down.

I watched the line moving in for about 5 minutes. You could clearly see it moving across the water and you knew it would hit. If you're out kiting storm conditions you know to watch the horizon for any activity.

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
30 Sep 2012 9:14AM
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Puetz said...


... nah, but seriously, don't be stoopid guys, Saffer's right!


sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
30 Sep 2012 8:42AM
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45knots? pffff, even a person kiting for 2 months could kite in 45... I ride my 10m in 50knots down in Victoria all the time. You guys need to harden up!

Puetz
NT, 2185 posts
30 Sep 2012 12:24PM
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Saffer said...

Puetz said...

... meh,,,,, some pack up when storms come in,,,,,,,, and some rig up!


And this is what the result is




... see people, don't jump on the beach, this is what happens!! Don't be stoopid hey!!

dafish
NSW, 1654 posts
30 Sep 2012 1:35PM
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I want to know why the guy didn't let go of the bar! That is first instinct when you hit the ground or get spanked on the water. It would have given him time perhaps to hit the safety, although he probably had the wind knocked out of him at that point. Realistically though, he should have flagged the kite just before he hit land and be done with it. Kite would have already been wet anyways....

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
30 Sep 2012 4:24PM
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dafish said...

I want to know why the guy didn't let go of the bar! That is first instinct when you hit the ground or get spanked on the water. It would have given him time perhaps to hit the safety, although he probably had the wind knocked out of him at that point. Realistically though, he should have flagged the kite just before he hit land and be done with it. Kite would have already been wet anyways....


I don't think he remembered much from the incident but he was probably concussed with the first knock. He flew quick a distance before he hit the sand.

Plummet
4862 posts
30 Sep 2012 2:49PM
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Saffer said...

dafish said...

I want to know why the guy didn't let go of the bar! That is first instinct when you hit the ground or get spanked on the water. It would have given him time perhaps to hit the safety, although he probably had the wind knocked out of him at that point. Realistically though, he should have flagged the kite just before he hit land and be done with it. Kite would have already been wet anyways....


I don't think he remembered much from the incident but he was probably concussed with the first knock. He flew quick a distance before he hit the sand.
when **** happens it happens fast!



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