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New Ozone bar- when?

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Created by Rob S > 9 months ago, 13 Jun 2012
Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 8:35PM
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Anyone know when the new Ozone bar will be available?

Is the 11 metre and 9 metre Edge supplied with the same size bar?

KIT33R
NSW, 1716 posts
13 Jun 2012 8:45PM
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Call Kitepower in Sydney - They are the Australian distributor for Ozone.

02 95296894

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
13 Jun 2012 8:48PM
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Hi Rob, my understanding is that a new chickenloop will be appearing soon, but the fully redesigned bar may be a little while longer. Steve at Kitepower would have the latest info though.

Yes the 9 and 11 Edges both run on the 50cm bar.


cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 7:33PM
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Ozone wasn't happy with some of the quality of fittings ,so have found another manufacturer to make the product, personally can't see why they need to change what is already a great bar, doesnt make the kite fly any different, got a mate in the UK who's with ozone if your keen ill find out what the go is

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 9:43PM
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KIT33R said...

Call Kitepower in Sydney - They are the Australian distributor for Ozone.

02 95296894


Hi Graeme,

Emailed over a week ago. No answer

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 9:47PM
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cauncy said...

Ozone wasn't happy with some of the quality of fittings ,so have found another manufacturer to make the product, personally can't see why they need to change what is already a great bar, doesnt make the kite fly any different, got a mate in the UK who's with ozone if your keen ill find out what the go is


Hi Mick

Sorry mate but that quick release is pretty agricultural.
I've had sand in mine a couple of times and it jams it up.
Fortunate it was not a drastic emergency.

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 9:48PM
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djdojo said...

Hi Rob, my understanding is that a new chickenloop will be appearing soon, but the fully redesigned bar may be a little while longer. Steve at Kitepower would have the latest info though.

Yes the 9 and 11 Edges both run on the 50cm bar.


Same bar. Excellent! Thanks

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 7:49PM
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Rob email them to tell you wanna buy one and they'll be on you in a flash that's customer service

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 9:51PM
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cauncy said...

Rob email them to tell you wanna buy one and they'll be on you in a flash that's customer service


Mate, I want two!

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 7:56PM
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Yo Rob agricultural, whas that when you where plowing the beach with your chin, I've pulled my safety twice in 2 sessions with no dramas,every few weeks i spray the swivel and safety with silicone spray smooth as silk, where have you been lately Mr getaway

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
13 Jun 2012 10:13PM
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cauncy said...

Yo Rob agricultural, whas that when you where plowing the beach with your chin, I've pulled my safety twice in 2 sessions with no dramas,every few weeks i spray the swivel and safety with silicone spray smooth as silk, where have you been lately Mr getaway


Sri Lanka last month. Cocos in August. Then 4 months over your way. Start in Sandy Bay in September. Then same wander down the coast as last year. Will see you when I get down to Dongara around Nov 24

Point Henry tomorrow. 20 - 25 kt Northerly forecast. CHILLY 16 degrees!

Big eeeZeee
NSW, 1100 posts
13 Jun 2012 10:35PM
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djdojo said...

Hi Rob, my understanding is that a new chickenloop will be appearing soon, but the fully redesigned bar may be a little while longer. Steve at Kitepower would have the latest info though.

Yes the 9 and 11 Edges both run on the 50cm bar.



Serious? They've had close to a year to rectify the bar! They better not release 2013 kites with a 2012 bar

jobic
WA, 59 posts
13 Jun 2012 8:42PM
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cauncy said...

Yo Rob agricultural, whas that when you where plowing the beach with your chin, I've pulled my safety twice in 2 sessions with no dramas,every few weeks i spray the swivel and safety with silicone spray smooth as silk, where have you been lately Mr getaway


Agree with Rob, the QR is old fashion and you have to remember which side you want to connect it (left or right handed).

The swivel can't be operated without disconnecting your primary safety.

The bar end design tend to snag the steering lines while doing unhooked tricks.

For $500 I think this bar is very far from being perfect. Agricultural is quite appropriated actually.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 9:10PM
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yo rob how long you planning in dongara , ill line up a few days kiting and fishing

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
13 Jun 2012 11:20PM
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cauncy said...

...personally can't see why they need to change what is already a great bar....


Every single Ozone review for the last 5 years Kiteworld mag says 'when are you going to change to industry-standard push away release?'. That's why they're changing

Once they change, KW Mag is gonna have to think much harder to fill the 'KW Would Change' column...

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 10:06PM
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yo kiteboy its a personal preference, if you mix your kite quiver with different brands then yes id say go with the push away ,but if your familiar with the system it doesnt matter if its push away or pull, if you turned the tables and ozone were the only brand with a push system we would be having the same discussion

jobic
WA, 59 posts
13 Jun 2012 11:00PM
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cauncy said...

yo kiteboy its a personal preference, if you mix your kite quiver with different brands then yes id say go with the push away ,but if your familiar with the system it doesnt matter if its push away or pull, if you turned the tables and ozone were the only brand with a push system we would be having the same discussion


Not really because a pull away doesn't work if your center lines are slack. Just about time for them to move forward.....

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
13 Jun 2012 11:40PM
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So why would you want to pull your safety if your lines are slack, a kite won't launch you or drag you around with slack lines can you give me a example, I'm not being smart I'm just curious

matix
34 posts
14 Jun 2012 6:04AM
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cauncy said...

So why would you want to pull your safety if your lines are slack, a kite won't launch you or drag you around with slack lines can you give me a example, I'm not being smart I'm just curious


kite falls from sky in a lull and is going to get yanked by a gust... better to drop it to safety before it snaps a line. happened to me a few years back.

14 Jun 2012 8:22AM
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jobic said...

cauncy said...

Yo Rob agricultural, whas that when you where plowing the beach with your chin, I've pulled my safety twice in 2 sessions with no dramas,every few weeks i spray the swivel and safety with silicone spray smooth as silk, where have you been lately Mr getaway


Agree with Rob, the QR is old fashion and you have to remember which side you want to connect it (left or right handed).

The swivel can't be operated without disconnecting your primary safety.

The bar end design tend to snag the steering lines while doing unhooked tricks.

For $500 I think this bar is very far from being perfect. Agricultural is quite appropriated actually.



There will be more news about the new bar and CL later in the year its only Mid June guys! Ozone don't like the yearly race to release new and only slightly different gear and tend to constantly improve their products.

The bar is perfectly functional as is, many thousands of Ozone kites out there.

BUT Ozone want to perfect their new CL and be sure is is as good as they can produce, and it will be a push away design.

You don't have to remember which side, there is no "side", you just rotate the tophat swivel to the side you prefer to have you flagging line on.
The primary safety is to release the bar, secondary safety is to release the chicken loop, final safety is release your leash.

The swivel can be operated with the primary safety (bar release), you need to move the leash to the ring inside the chicken loop.
The bar end design is identical to several other brands, but Ozone are working on something to remedy this issue which only affects a minimal number of riders. (but we are still 100% committed to fix it)

Complete with lines the bar is $449, bar alone is approx $239

Not really because a pull away doesn't work if your center lines are slack. Just about time for them to move forward.....


The Megatron release still works if the lines are slack, you may need to hold the top hat, but in reality you could also just unhook too (kite would still flag to one line ).

@Rob S

I never got any email from you, please send it again to steve(@)ozonekites.com.au

SpaceCoyote
VIC, 147 posts
14 Jun 2012 9:39AM
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Steve, by "side" i think he means whether to have the chicken loop QR on the left or right (as the QR is not in the center like for example on the cabrinha bars).

My biggest gripe withe the ozone bar is the accidental un-hookings - does anyone else get those? I think a longer donkey dick is needed. Since I don't ride suicide if I let go of the bar after accidentally unhooking the kite flags and on occasion fell through the lines - which results in a trip back to the beach and resetting.

The second issue is the fact that you have to manually untwist the leash after a kite loop if you don't ride suicide. Yeah, I know I could use suicide but I'd prefer to have the option to flag the kite if **** hits the fan.

Rob S
VIC, 391 posts
14 Jun 2012 9:52AM
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Kitepower Australia said...

I never got any email from you, please send it again to steve(@)ozonekites.com.au



Steve, Have sent email to the above address. (used the contact us form on your website site but obviously something didn't work)

jobic
WA, 59 posts
14 Jun 2012 6:53PM
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Kitepower Australia said...

You don't have to remember which side, there is no "side", you just rotate the tophat swivel to the side you prefer to have you flagging line on.
The primary safety is to release the bar, secondary safety is to release the chicken loop, final safety is release your leash.



Maybe you should actually try the gear so you will realize that there is a "side", as the QR is not centred.....


The swivel can be operated with the primary safety (bar release), you need to move the leash to the ring inside the chicken loop.


Are you telling people that they should connect "suicide" whatever their level is?




The Megatron release still works if the lines are slack, you may need to hold the top hat, but in reality you could also just unhook too (kite would still flag to one line ).


Which makes sense to anyone of course. Dude, you're a retailer and you seem to forget that buyers have different needs according to their level.
Ozone's bar works but is obsolete, absolutely no doubt about it. What's the point trying to find stupid remedies where the product obviously fails? Especially if what you are suggesting could put somebody at risk (connecting suicide for someone who hasn't got a clue of what it is).

Dan Fletcher
NSW, 114 posts
15 Jun 2012 12:29AM
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There are pros and cons with every bar. No bar is perfect. The Ozone bar is no different. The bar grip is comfortable and high quality, the lines are high quality and the retractable elastic cords that hold the lines in place once wound up are a nice feature.

The main problem is that the safety can jam fairly easily with a bit of sand. This wouldn't be so much of a problem with a push-away release as you can force the release away from you using the resistance of the chicken loop against the harness hook. With a pull release though, there will be no resistance if the lines are slack. Matix has already explained one of the reasons why you would want to release when the lines are slack.

@SpaceCoyote: I have also experienced two accidental unhookings. Once was because the CL was somehow resting on the tip of the harness hook, as opposed to actually being within the hook. The donkey dick wasn't stiff and/or long enough to prevent the CL being ripped all the way off the hook. Another time i was simply cruising along, powered up, and it just unhooked suddenly with no warning. This was probably for the same reason, but it certainly helps to have a deep harness hook. It has only happened twice, so i personally don't have an issue with the donkey dick.

Yes, the bar works, but if we kept on defending rubbish designs, then we'd all probably still be riding rubbish kites like the Slingshot Link .
"But sir, why fix it? It works.........sort of."

Disclaimer: i have never flown a Slingshot Link.



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