Has anyone had to remove and repair the bladder of a Naish 2020 or S25 kite yet?
I assume the valves are the same as the ones found on the S25 Wing-Surfer. These look a lot like the ones on the latest model Switch kites, which are a nightmare to lever out of the leading edge, and the little plastic cuff things don't like coming off the hoses either.
I've spent a fair bit of time fooling with bladders due to collecting second-hand and fixer-upper kites and then crashing them into the needle-tipped shore grass of doom that grows behind our local beach, so I'm always thinking about ease of repair.
I tried to repair valves on a Naish Helix once a few years back ...... still a work in progress but will let you know if I get it done before I die.
Heh, yeah, I've done repairs on two 2016 kites and I have the theory that they call it the octopus system because you need octopus tentacles to get in there.
Lucky I have midget hands - I have no idea how anyone larger manages.
LIke above posts if its the old version with struts fitting into LE bladder INSIDE kite,ive tried 6 times to find an ongoing leak.
am modifying to outside system now.
too much time and trouble.
have heard many kite repairs wont touch them either.
so im blocking end of stutt bladder off and also LE inside valve entry and just going to pump up each strutt them the LE.
not perfect but way better
Clarification - correct, they are no longer using the Octopus system. They are indeed now using a standard system of hoses with clamps. I want to know how this compares to other systems of hoses with clamps when you have to take it apart.
In my experience so far, nothing can beat Duotone's plastic clip system for ease of disassembly and reassembly. I think new North and Ocean Rodeo(?) also use this system. The other classic method has been cable ties holding the hoses to the valves, which you have to cut off and replace every single time. The new method that's now popping up is a tubular plastic sleeve that slides on.
The large plastic clips seem to give the manufacturers confidence to make a valve with a smaller flange, which means it's painless to pop through the leading edge. The plastic sleeve and cable tie assemblages I've worked on so far have massive flanges on the valves, which can be really hard to lever into and out of position.
I would post photos, but am too new.