All I can see is a hooked in backroll kite loop then a dangle pass. There's a bit of a grab in there too.
Not AH's best trick but it looks like fun. Good to see he's still having fun and not taking things too seriously all the time.
Looks fluid, looks BIG, looks powered, looks hard, gets my vote on style too. Havn't seen many local Aussie riders doing anything near as good as that.
Whats not to like?
I think AH is still at the top of the game and working hard to stay there.
All the haters out there- please back up your comments with a video clip of yourself doing something gnarly. Put some cred behind your whinging.
I might do it myself- got some pretty uninspiring video of alot of you punks riding this season!
I don't have so much a problem with the move just the name he is calling it. Everybody does tricks different, it's up to them what they want to do. The tricks good for what it is, just as long as it isn't hybrid wakestyle crap with the kite at lunch. This is kitestyle, it isn't trying to be wakestyle, not what I want to aspire to personally but I still think it's alright.
its still poos no matter what you call it, just when i started getting respect for hadlows style, he started riding so hard kite super low super fast massive tweaked grabs n stuff, just started lookin real fluent and started riding boots sometimes.... then he comes and does this... sure its hard and techy to do, but it looks crap.
Am I for real..??..? A video gets posted of a guy doing a fully lit hooked to unhooked grabbed kiteloop to handle pass and you think thats crap?
And you think that the average Ozzy rider can do it but doesn't because it looks crap???
Mate- you are dillusional!
I for one am proud of australia because i think we are the leading country when it comes to pushing the sport with style and one day i think we will get the recognition for that (we already do from some people).
Please post a video clip of yourself or your progressive world leading mates on here so we can see what it is you are trying to say. I am keen to learn more about real style and power- I always looked up to the world leaders like AH for that. but it seems I'm looking in the wrong place. All you need to do is post a quick clip on here... Action speak louder than words- and **** me but you got a lot of words!!
As for naming the trick- I trust a professional board rider to come up with a suitable name for it. Lets not forget this is a guy who spends his full time job riding, all over the world with other pro board riders, He's an amazingly good cable and wake rider too. He lives his life for kiteboarding- if he wants to call it a KL grabbed KGB then he has earned the cred to do it. Which rule book or definition source are you guys working from when you say its not a KGB?
Can't wait for this super Styley progressive video clip!! 
Educate us Sir Rowdy! what is it that you can do so well that eludes the best riders in the world?!!! 
Yeah I'd like to see some video of someone doing something that's heavier than that. Not many things come to mind, Ben Wilson riding that beach break a few years ago was probably the heaviest thing I've seen from an aussie rider.
We've got some awesome riders here, but that **** from Hadlow looks ****ing sick! I'd love to be able to do it.
Bring the video on, if you've got better it's gotta be worth posting!
I didn't see any loop? He could have grabbed the nose five times if he wanted to while he was hanging up there.
So let me get this straight, if your world champion you can call your tricks what ever you like?
I'm going to work off the wakeboarding definition since they invented the trick.
KGB: A heelside backroll with a handle-pass backside 360 - Invented by Ryan Seibring and Gregg Necrason.
In wakeboarding a backroll is a semi-inverted move.
Why do I have an issue? It shows disrespect to previous naming conventions. What happens if someone can actually do that move in the future? I've seen a picture in KBM of Paul Jackson doing a proper kiteloop KGB before. I'm sure he could have added Mega in front if he felt inadequete and just wanted people to know how big his trick was. Only thing left is the grab and you got a legitamate kiteloop Nose Grab KGB....
But it's the same trick right even though Aaron takes off hooked in, doesn't get even near horizontal let alone vertical whilst paul takes off unhooked gets fully inverted? KGB does not describe any sort of back spin then a backside 360.
I don't think its possible to get inverted during a kiteloop is it? If it's a solid kiteloop shouldn't you be horizontal if your holding onto the bar?
Dunno if you could call it a KGB, needs a new name imo. Anything with a loop in it is going to be completely different from wakeboarding though wouldn't you think? You've got max power midway through the jump with a loop, with wakeboarding you've got most of your power just before you hit the wake. If your going to get that tech I can't see how any wakestyle trick can be properly replicated with a decent sized kiteloop thrown in. More than happy for someone to prove me wrong though! Yet to see any pictures!! 
At the end of the day............ hes paid to do what he loves, has free kites and gear, gets to kite the best places in the world all year, has the exact kite made for him how he wants it and has been responsible for landing many things for the first time in competition trying to push wake as much as poss.
Yeah, his best riding style is with his kite low and doing less spins but making grabs mid-rotation/pass etc. etc. CRANKING out style! But he admitted in interview he needed to change his riding style mid flow of the PKRA last year as judges were still marking him less than kevin who continued pulling off double passes etc. etc. although its actually harder to stall with a grab before rotating and passing. Hes said hes been trying so hard to get the comp scene to go that way but its hard. Its training time, the boys gotta look into new avenues to WIN or get a lead as others are catching up fast. Megaloops with passes could bring back the big air WOW factor to the comp scene that all the public liked whilst maintaining technical difficulty. The comp scene is different to free-ride. A win gives the boy what 20,000 US or whatever each time........ Thats some motivation as it stands.
He can also land his arsenal of moves in any chop, any wind,on any kite size pretty much.......... not just on a flat day on his favourite size when its all going right for him. Hence comps in Fuerte and Tarifa where is goes off!
So unless anyone can post videos getting them a wild card into the pkra, yeah maybe he goofed up the name but i'd know whos skills i'd rather have!
And i dont think he really gives ****...........would you!
no one asked for his bank information or his riding ability, everyone knows hes an insane rider.
also, no one said the trick he did was not hard, obviously it is... unhooking mid looop and throwing a pass will obviously be very difficult and the trick which has no real name is very difficult to do.
what we are saying though is that this trick is exactly what alot of people hate about PKRA riding, over technicality with no flow. that is what the problem is. no flow, lots of technicality, doesnt look fluent, doesnt look smooth, looks semi powered, but then again if you see the "mega"loops that hadlow normally throws even that loop is small in comparison and he would of gotten that same height if he just started unhooked probably and the trick would of looked smoother.
and as for max power mid trick, from what i understand your kite actually slacks off after the loop when your passing, which in turn will be the same as hitting a double up wake in wakeboarding terms almost, just boom massive height and power then mad slack in the rope to pass. there for its still comparable to wakeboarding and just because you throw a kiteloop before a trick that already exists doesnt mean you can change the name of it just because its done in combo with something else.
You get most of your power after leaving the water on a kiteloop, even on a double up your still edging hard as you come into the wake and shortly after popping from the wake you should lose tension (unless doing something like a raley, s bend etc where your horizontal). It's possible to get inverted because your losing that tension as you pop rather than halfway through the jump. The point I was trying to make though is people saying you need to be inverted to claim a KGB, Mobe.. I don't think that it would even be possible with a megaloop could it?
After the initial yank from a kiteloop you will get slack in the lines, I'm just saying that you will be pulled horizontally from a kiteloop which would make getting inverted impossible as far as I can see. But people have done things which I thought were impossible before, just like Dre's Indy Shifty 3 in Autofocus. Fark that was awesome when that came out, haven't seen anything blow me away like that for awhile.
Man I'm starting to ramble on with BS now lol.
faarkin hell there is alot of bull**** in this thread... seabreeze at it's best, im frothin.
"""Educate us Sir Rowdy! what is it that you can do so well that eludes the best riders in the world?!!!"""
What can i do so well??? i was talking about this countrry as a whole keeping it low and doing it right. When was i talking about myself???, .
In life generally there is an easy way and a hard way to do something, one way gets it done but not real well and prob not for long, and the other way gets the job done right and will be likley to last... much like kiting...
In kiting there is a super easy way and a hard way to do something, the easy way it is gonna take a day to learn, the hard way maybe a week/month/year who knows, the thing is though the trick with style will withstand the test of time, the other will be labeled "gay" prob next pkra stop.
This is where i think aussie kids are leadig the charge, we know what style is and we push towards landing tricks with style instead of landing for the sake of being able to claim a trick (for the most part)
If you need me so badly to post a vid and "educate" you on style bud its not worth my effort, you ethier have an eye for it or you have absolutley no idea and never will... for you i would say the later.
p.s. You can keep checkin the pkra/ kpwt for your daily style fix it's all there for you, dangles, kiteloops, seisures.... worlds best spinning to win with mad style.
p.p.s. i never said hadlow can't ride, he has proved without a doubt that he can and he can do it with style... this just happens to be one of those moments..... bosch... etc.. etc...
One could add some style to the trick by holding the grab a lot longer for starters, landing looked forced and ugly and I didn't catch a smile.....sick trick, now all he has to do is style it out........keep on styyllllnnnnnnnn. You want Wow factor with style. I'm still working on styling out a back roll
Learning something hard is just the start....becoming a master takes years. I can't even see the sqigglies to appreciate them.
I'm just saying that this trick looks cool. I'm all for wakestyle, I've ridden with some of the best wakeboarders in Australia and I'm constantly being blown away by some of the stuff they're doing. I haven't seen that so much with wakestyle in kiteboarding lately. We've got some sick riders in Australia, but nothing on video that makes you think "Fark how did he do that" and rewind and replay over and over just trying to get your head around it.
Hadlow's little video made me do that for the first time in a long time and it was good to see something that looked like mad fun and was something different from the stuff you see every day.
The grab is nothing, I'm not saying that it's stylish or anything. I'm just saying it looks like awesome fun. I just can't believe people can just say "yeah it's a **** dangle pass, try doing a normal KGB it's heaps harder"
Yeah Rowdys right! This thread has gone downhill fast. How does a good positive thread showing a sik vid clip turn into a tiff about style? Oh yeah- when d!ckheads take it over and turn it into a dick sizing match over whats a good move or not.
More blithering and whinging mate- you're willing to bag out a world class rider and comment on his lack of style, power etc then claim you and your ozzy mates are leading the way much better with Style and doin it right, even try and bang on philosophically about doing the job right or doing it easy.
Then you're not even willing to back up your mad claims in any way !
If you need me so badly to post a vid and "educate" you on style bud its not worth my effort
I tell you what- it would be less effort to post a quick vid or some photos a link or something then the amount of time and effort you spend writing **** on this forum all day.
Yeah I tend to ramble on with my posts. I just hate it when people put **** on others who are doing a good job. I reckon if you can do something that is more impressive then put your money where your mouth is and post it on the forums and let everyone else decide.
My 2 cents
1st of all self promoting on forums is f@#king gay. (Yes Alex S)
There are a few members on this forum who know Sir Rowdy and his riding capabiltes,personally I would bagg him if obeyed 2 these sh@thouse demands to prove himself. If your that keen to know how he rides do some research. It wouldn't be that hard.
2nd, I too am over people calling tricks something when they are clearly not. It seems alot of riders are too busy trying to get more tricks in the bag rather than doing em properly the 1st time round. Samething not bagging Hadlow cause i am a fan of his powered stuff (In boots) but some1 of such experience should know better.
Bring on the red thumbs
Hahahahahaha, this is perfect! bring back the blood.
Why do i need to back up "australia" with any vid, whats your problem?? sounds like
a pack off bitter poms or something??? hahaha.
Once again i think ppl are not reading the whole thread and instead jumping to conclusions based on uneducated arguments.... this thread was never a "hadlow is gay thread" or anything of that nature, please read from the start.
p.s. Jammin....... lol. explain to me how it would be easier to post a vid of australia (or even myself riding) than typing a 30second post...... hahaha. d bag.
stay tuned ladies and gentlemen.. dont touch that dial.. we'll be right back with more days of our lives, seabreeze edition after the break.....
