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Do I buy rpm 14m?

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Created by Andy T > 9 months ago, 30 Dec 2015
Andy T
WA, 325 posts
30 Dec 2015 8:32AM
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All my kites are rpms, always have been cos I love them and used to them. Have 6,7,8 + 10.
Beginner/intermediate, 65kg.
I kite Safety bay. Am looking for a kite that will get me out in around 14-18kn. So thinking 12 or 14 rpm.
Is 14rpm going to be a suitable light wind kite? Or will 12 do? I find rpm have narrow sweet spot in wind range. Looking for comments from the rpm crew...

likuid
QLD, 330 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:43AM
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Depends how powered your ride.Do you ride with boots?

I am 70kg and find the 12m has a fair bit of grunt for the size. However I ride mostly with straps.

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
30 Dec 2015 8:51AM
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Straps only mate, out in the chop in a monk 130. As for power... I like to be in control rather than being controlled

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
30 Dec 2015 8:52AM
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Likuid, what wind range are u using the 12?

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:37PM
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Andy T said..
All my kites are rpms, always have been cos I love them and used to them. Have 6,7,8 + 10.
Beginner/intermediate, 65kg.
I kite Safety bay. Am looking for a kite that will get me out in around 14-18kn. So thinking 12 or 14 rpm.
Is 14rpm going to be a suitable light wind kite? Or will 12 do? I find rpm have narrow sweet spot in wind range. Looking for comments from the rpm crew...



if all your kite same year sell the 7 and buy a 12. i dont believe ANYONE should have a lei kite bigger then 13m especially someone thats 65k



wait.... your boards 130?!?!?! hahahaha get a ****ing 135 jesus christ man?!!? 134-140 if your an adult male brother theres your 12m kite right there

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
30 Dec 2015 10:43AM
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I own a similar bridled c kite
You find they have a cut off point and for mine its 12 Mtrs, anything above is likely not to perform, id definatly trial one first if possible,
Maybe look at something completely different that you can hone or perfect your style on , some of the big kites like a zephyr arnt like the slouches of old, even on 13/ 14 kite winds I found the new zephyr a more responsive better performing kite, give one a run or similar I think you'll be surprised

Floater
QLD, 58 posts
30 Dec 2015 1:07PM
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At 65kg a 130 shinn monk is spot on for size, check their website.

At 70kg I went the 132 and my 85kg mate can ride it no worries. However, the monk really like to be powered up and isn't very good as a light wind board. It can be a little unforgiving, but when you get it right it just keeps on giving.

A bigger board will definitely be better in light winds. My light wind option is a 15m and a 165 light wave board, good from around 9kts to 15kts in these fickle SE Qld winds, but pretty much just mowing the lawn on those days.

A second, bigger, board is probably a cheaper option too, there are plenty to choose from in the buy/sell section. I'd be looking around the 138 to 142 range.
And try a to get a demo ride to see what you like.

Finally, 10m to 14m is too big a gap in sizes, if you have to, go the 12m.

My 2c.

polykarb
VIC, 284 posts
30 Dec 2015 2:16PM
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The 14m is awesome... (For phat kants).

But your light, get the 12m.

I've had 14m in 2012,2013,2015 and 2016 on order.
I'm over 100kg tho...

This year I'm going to go 14/11/9.

But your lightweight, 12/10/8 would prob be better..
I don't know why anybody needs smaller than 8?
I've got an 2015 and its never windy enough.

It's for sale.... Bargain if anybody's keen at $1200 in brand new condition. (Flown twice) bar lines are still bright white, bridle still has little paper labels etc.. Bag has tags on still.





Kraut
WA, 547 posts
30 Dec 2015 11:51AM
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I probably see you out there regularly. Had 2015 RPM 9 and 12 and 2014 14m. 70kg boots, 136. The 14 did not give me a lot more power but of course some. For pure wakestyle not too bad. Was a 27m line bar though. So bigger board or line extensions could be your cheaper options ;-)

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:21PM
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I do have a north whip I'm intending for light wind but need something more powerful than the 10. The 12 is sounding good!
Russkraut...I'm sure I've seen your ads on seabreeze for rpms before. I'm on 2013 mainly the 8. Will be out this arvo, usually on the outside of the pond (not ready for the pond chaos yet )

daggy
WA, 528 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:26PM
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Plus one on the board
I've got the Dundee Which is 132 x 41 wide
Nice and flat with not much rocker. Keeps me going in all kinds of winds
I'm 70 kgs
The board option is half the cost and will last you for years, then you can sell to a travelling euro who will happily pay you $300 for it

yendor
NSW, 262 posts
30 Dec 2015 3:27PM
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Andy T said..
All my kites are rpms, always have been cos I love them and used to them. Have 6,7,8 + 10.
Beginner/intermediate, 65kg.
I kite Safety bay. Am looking for a kite that will get me out in around 14-18kn. So thinking 12 or 14 rpm.
Is 14rpm going to be a suitable light wind kite? Or will 12 do? I find rpm have narrow sweet spot in wind range. Looking for comments from the rpm crew...



12
Yes go the 12.
12 all the way.
12
12
12
By the way I am 82 kilos and 14 to 18 knots is not light.
My biggest kite is an 11
Bigger board is better.
Took me 10 years to work all this out!,

Kraut
WA, 547 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:50PM
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Andy T said..
I do have a north whip I'm intending for light wind but need something more powerful than the 10. The 12 is sounding good!
Russkraut...I'm sure I've seen your ads on seabreeze for rpms before. I'm on 2013 mainly the 8. Will be out this arvo, usually on the outside of the pond (not ready for the pond chaos yet )



Yep the RPMs were snapped up quickly. Good kites. Just a few little things I did not like. The journey continues. Just bought an Enduro today, for boosting and looping as of 20 knots. GTS3 10m for a bit of everything including raileys, s bend attempts etc. And the Nugget and 12 Reo for those 12-15 knot days for some soul cruising when hardly anyone else is out. May get a foil and this would on a 12 open up the 7-12 knot range but then I am afraid there will be no time left for work/family . Tough life. See you out there, nothing wrong with that spot you are using.

PS. My personal opinion is that 12m is a compromise, more suited for trying some tricks rather than boosting (unless you are 100kg and you have to use a big kite), so I try and avoid that. Anything above 12 is used out of desperation, so here in Perth we don't really need it. Jumping on a sb is more fun in light winds. Others, e.g. wakestylists love a slow/non moving 14/15m truck as it pulls like a cable and nothing else. So depends on what your needs are, as usual...

Fly on da wall
SA, 725 posts
30 Dec 2015 9:35PM
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I've got 1.. At 65kg's NO! 12 would suit your weight better and you'd have a kite that matches your other rpm's.. similar feel! unless you would like to ride
in 10 knots on a surf/directional board.

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
30 Dec 2015 8:46PM
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Thanks everyone... I knew the wonderful expertise of seabreeze would offer plenty of useful advice.
So 12m and surfboard should get me out for some light wind cruising

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
31 Dec 2015 6:58AM
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Andy T said..
Thanks everyone... I knew the wonderful expertise of seabreeze would offer plenty of useful advice.
So 12m and surfboard should get me out for some light wind cruising


Goong against the grain I would say skip the 12 and go straight to 14.
You can ride the 14 from 13-18 and then go get wet on your 10m.
I have 10 12 and 14 and the 12 is never used... 70kgs
Make sure you get the 28m lines and the big bar though

Rads
WA, 110 posts
31 Dec 2015 7:55AM
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Will be out this arvo, usually on the outside of the pond (not ready for the pond chaos yet )

Finally. Someone with a brain.

Not everyone has to kite inside the pond. There's a big bank of shallow flat water just outside! And it actually doubles the size of the inside.

"OMG, I never knew!? I usually just tack back and forth constantly. Transitioning as soon as I get to each trick section. Straight back into oncoming riders loading up for a trick. They tend to look at me a bit annoyed but I have no idea why. Peace and love everyone!".

Inside pond seems to be reserved for kooks, rude euros, grass mowers, learners, mates teaching mates, instructors and kite schools nowadays

Rads
WA, 110 posts
31 Dec 2015 8:05AM
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Andy T said...

Will be out this arvo, usually on the outside of the pond (not ready for the pond chaos yet )

Finally. Someone with a brain.

Not everyone has to kite inside the pond. There's a big bank of shallow FLAT water just outside! And it actually doubles the size of the inside.

"OMG, I never knew!? I usually just tack back and forth constantly between the trick spots. Always inside and never go out. It looks too open out there. I like to transition without looking as soon as I get to each trick section, straight back into oncoming riders loading up for a trick. They tend to look at me a bit annoyed but I have no idea why. Must be in a bad mood. Peace and love everyone! By the way, did you see my carving transition?".

Inside pond seems to be reserved for kooks, rude euros, grass mowers, learners, mates teaching mates, instructors and kite schools nowadays

Ps. Go the 12m

Kraut
WA, 547 posts
31 Dec 2015 8:27AM
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Don't send them just outside the pond on the weed bank mate. They will annoy those who still know how to ride and go big (just smart enough to avoid the pond but not due to lack of skills ). It is too shallow to stuff up so they may get hurt. And, and I am seeing this every third day or so, they get their lines tangled around the boat channel markers. Better if you go upwind to the other ocean side where there usually is heaps of space, or to Shoalwater. Chop will improve your riding. If you stay in flat water all the time you will never learn how to ride properly. And if the lawn is mowed often enough out there it may as well become flat eventually

Factory
WA, 266 posts
31 Dec 2015 8:43AM
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Aaah don't get me started!!!
People teaching mates, girlfriends, even instructors teaching at the trick zone at the western end from that little point. Their learners walking straight back upwind in the water kites at lunch, blocking people from doing tricks and riding out safely. Idiots.

Whatever happened to the rule of no teaching in the pond?

Andy T
WA, 325 posts
4 Jan 2016 5:46AM
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Ok, got a 12m. Now just need a light wind day (15kn) to give it a whirl on my whip... Damn strong seabreezes in Perth

UNcleHooked
NSW, 40 posts
15 Jan 2016 9:23AM
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I had a 14 rpm and regret the day I sold it.



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