As an ex-windsurfer, surfer, and wave kiter, I understand everyones frustrations. He has the most fun wins. Remember guys, its only a wave. When a windsurfer is heading out and climbs over a wave he goes backwards and downwind losing all apparent wind as they cant sign their rig. Give them room, and most guys will show total respect. Windsurfers are scared crapless of our lines as they should be, Ive not had any hassles out there with a little understanding. Great point at the lefts just off Eddie Island, we can kitesurf them, they cant as they will snap fins off.
Goatboats, Mals and shortboarders have been doing the same stuff for years, and there is a level of understanding with the 95%'ers. Call them for it nicely if it happens more than twice. we all need to tack out the back.
Yeh when I came in after the second session I thought why the hell didn't we hit eddys, used to surf it years ago (damn that was a pain walking over that reef!). Will hit that next time, cheers for that.
Nah I'm all cool now with it as I actually inderstand what the Farq was going on (in hindsight). It was just puzzling me at the time, I was like what is wrong with these retards... there was a brilliant windsurfer out there, he didn't stall at all, just smooth as silk and man did he rip into the pocket of the waves, good to watch.
^^^ yeah that would have been me Eppo lol 
I think there has been a good dialogue in this thread, which is nice to see
I do know what you mean, even though I understand how the windsurfers do it the stallers have been giving me the sh!ts at south passage too.
If we all stick to "first on the swell owns it" it works sooo well. Next rule obviously is if you cant tell who got it first, then upwind / closest to peak has right of way.
If you pick a bad wave, don't let it pass under you and stall for the next one if somebody is already on it. Windsurfers are particularly guilty of that one. On a busy day like Saturday there will be somebody on the one behind you.
Likewise though, kiters can do short runs.... but just because they can doesn't mean they should turn onto a wave that somebody is already on.
That happened to me so blatantly at S.P on Saturday - as in the wave was damn near vertical and I am 1sec from making the drop and a kiter turns onto it. Like WTF? If he was a windsurfer I'd have yelled out and just bottom turned around him, but if he is a noob then suddenly we are both down with lines around us blah blah. So I gave up best wave of the day for safety ... I just hope now he doesn't think what he did is OK as I didn't scream at him and line him up.
Many times I also made my outside turn when I was farthest out, and after a few seconds 2 kiters and 3 windsurfers turn right next to me - obviously we will then all compete for the same swell so what's the point??? - they only had to delay ther outside turn for 2 or 3 seconds.....
Anyway top fkn marks to Getfunky for asking about local rules ...... 1000 ppl a year don't.
Wow!
Just checked in and this thread really took off!
Good to see interesting info shared and a nice cuddle allround in the end.
I was out at Eddies on Sat and even on a kite it was up n down wind with holes at times.
Some really nice big slabs out the back Eppo. Was intimidating for a 1st time venture (that jagged island/rock looming out directly downwind of the Eddies break never left my mind) but had a quick fang on a couple of nice slabs.
Other than that it was back n forth on the inside water and lots of stinky weed.
Should have hit other spots in the area on sat in hindsight, but thanks folks for the info on the local set-up. 
Stress free sesh in the end... Oh - almost there is always one turkey (or turky-ette this time) who just does not get the kite high/low gig and keeps doing it all arvo.
Myeh.. still good to be on the water.
Yeh dave at woddies said it was howling, not where we where.
Hey that chick with the kite trajectory problem was that the German girl on the North Evo? She was out at main break now and then as well, staying on the shoulder but right in the way of the guys tacking back out.
Dude we should have caught up! Yeh hitting eddies next time!
Hey does anyone ever kite out the back of the island north of south passage. Used to do the old paddle across, walk across the snake infested island, then paddle another 300m out for a surf in the younger days. My bro and I were contemplating it, but wind was too patchy - actually the truth is we are old buggers and starting to feel it after a day of kiting. Sad but true.
Hey we went up to wedge as well, what time where you there. You weren't the guy trying to toe that surfer on the waves were you??
