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Kiter jumps a wharf and dies!

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Created by surfingboye > 9 months ago, 19 Aug 2009
sir ROWDY
WA, 5377 posts
20 Aug 2009 11:08PM
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Saffer said...

Actually, it was a stunt and he was annoyed when it was released publicly without his permission so before you comment on something, make sure you know the facts or you look like a tool.

Its also easy to comment but I'm guess you've never done anything stupid like trying to jump something, hitting a slider, or doing something in shallow water?


Are you serious? hahahaha.
So what if it was a stunt...
You don't tell the court when you are appealing your drink driving case "Oh don't worry guys, I know it was really stupid and someone could have got hurt, but its ok because it was just a STUNT..."

He should have known to start with it could get released publicly... what day and age do we live in again? that comment just makes him sound like even more of a KOOK.

I don't need facts to asses this situation and not look like a tool.
House + kiter jumping over it = stupid (everyone knows that)

Ive done lot's crazy things that i had to put my body on the line for, I wouldn't say they were stupid though.... also i'm not the owner of a kite company and i'm not videoing myself smashing into houses making the sport look bad. haha.

schmik
NSW, 235 posts
21 Aug 2009 8:57AM
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By some of your attitudes one would conclude that jumping in snowkiting shouldn't be done. Also no jumping in kite landboarding and no jumping in kite buggying. WOW. Who knew kitesurfers were so soft?

Live and let die! To each their own! and all that.

mike

Blownaway
QLD, 776 posts
21 Aug 2009 8:57AM
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so who decides then whats stupid an whats not ?

Was Evil knevil stupid
was Robby Naish when they did the cliff huck
Was ShannonBest when he jumped off some jetty an upset the locals(ok yes that was)
Was Cary Heart doing backrolls on a motcross
could go on an on here....

Its all stupid......But....we love it
the challenge the buzz adreno rush
No one can stop us except the crash and the fear of the crash so put the ambo on
standby or at least a couple of your mates an go your hardest !!

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
21 Aug 2009 9:37AM
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That was **** hot ..............GREAT FOOTAGE.......gUTSEY you think at least you would pick a house with a flat roof ???????????????????????? and lights and fire to smash through....................... Not one with triangles on it ...............

But hey we now know what window you picked at playschool

All fked up and back to the bottom deck for a bit (Spewing)..... stoked it didnt re launch from there but.

I seen it dood on the first jump you bust out over the whole fkn lot.

Injurys are fked ,
speedy recovery


Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Aug 2009 12:54PM
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sir ROWDY said...

Saffer said...

Actually, it was a stunt and he was annoyed when it was released publicly without his permission so before you comment on something, make sure you know the facts or you look like a tool.

Its also easy to comment but I'm guess you've never done anything stupid like trying to jump something, hitting a slider, or doing something in shallow water?


Are you serious? hahahaha.
So what if it was a stunt...
You don't tell the court when you are appealing your drink driving case "Oh don't worry guys, I know it was really stupid and someone could have got hurt, but its ok because it was just a STUNT..."

He should have known to start with it could get released publicly... what day and age do we live in again? that comment just makes him sound like even more of a KOOK.

I don't need facts to asses this situation and not look like a tool.
House + kiter jumping over it = stupid (everyone knows that)

Ive done lot's crazy things that i had to put my body on the line for, I wouldn't say they were stupid though.... also i'm not the owner of a kite company and i'm not videoing myself smashing into houses making the sport look bad. haha.


Every stunt is doing something stupid. The guys a professional rider so professional's often do stupid things to portray the sport in an extreme manner.

As someone said, Robbie Naish and a couple of riders jumped off the side of an aircraft carrier. What happened if one of their lines snapped and they kitelooped into the side of an aircraft carrier? yeah, you guessed it, everyone would have said they were stupid, but because nothing went wrong, its "cool" and "wow" etc.

As a wakeboarder (or wannabe wakeboarder based on your "if we had a cable I wouldn't be kiteboarding" comments), you would know that even the top riders do stupid **** including parks bonofay who has regularly been seen doing railey's on the double up over trees, not exact bright is it? Would you call Parks a tool? I doubt it because he's your hero, or one of them!

In short, its an extreme sport, the professional riders do stupid things, sometimes they go wrong, sometimes people get hurt. **** happens!

Incidentally, any time you put your body on the line to do something you're doing something stupid...you have one body! You don't have to video it or be jumping over a house to be doing something stupid and you definitely don't have to own kite companies...most beach bans come from riders, not owners of kite companies. (Disclaimer - this statement does not include alex sanz who does not technically own a kite company or we could say most bans come from kite company owners based on how many bans he has created)

sir ROWDY
WA, 5377 posts
21 Aug 2009 11:16AM
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Saffer said...


Every stunt is doing something stupid. The guys a professional rider so professional's often do stupid things to portray the sport in an extreme manner.

As someone said, Robbie Naish and a couple of riders jumped off the side of an aircraft carrier. What happened if one of their lines snapped and they kitelooped into the side of an aircraft carrier? yeah, you guessed it, everyone would have said they were stupid, but because nothing went wrong, its "cool" and "wow" etc.


Why is every stunt stupid?... don't get that. extreme doesn't = stupid, risk also doesn't = stupid.....
Jumping off the side of an aircraft carrier is an obvious stunt. It is easy to tell that they were allowed to do it, people can't just jump on aircraft carriers.... The video of him hitting a house isn't that obvious, It just looks like some tool hitting a house because he was being a douce'. Not the point, the point is still... You own a company, you don't do that stuff.

Saffer said...
As a wakeboarder (or wannabe wakeboarder based on your "if we had a cable I wouldn't be kiteboarding" comments), you would know that even the top riders do stupid **** including parks bonofay who has regularly been seen doing railey's on the double up over trees, not exact bright is it? Would you call Parks a tool? I doubt it because he's your hero, or one of them!


When did i ever say "if I had a cable I wouldn't kite" ??? I think your mistaken, show me.
Parks isn't my hero, I couldn't care less about him. Doing a raliey off a double up over a tree is impossible im affraid, if you knew what a double up was you would understand, but im guessing you were just using the term to try and make it sound like you know something.
Fact is, doing a railey (however its done) over a tree in a vid wakeboarding isn't going to get the sport banned for a number of reasons.
1. People aren't trying to ban wakeboarding all the time.
2. Wakeboarders have money and pay money to register boats and trailers and the like, government isn't going to want to give up that.
3. Its hardly in the same league as smashing into someones house and them having to take you to hospital...



Saffer said...
In short, its an extreme sport, the professional riders do stupid things, sometimes they go wrong, sometimes people get hurt. **** happens!

Incidentally, any time you put your body on the line to do something you're doing something stupid...you have one body! You don't have to video it or be jumping over a house to be doing something stupid and you definitely don't have to own kite companies...most beach bans come from riders, not owners of kite companies. (Disclaimer - this statement does not include alex sanz who does not technically own a kite company or we could say most bans come from kite company owners based on how many bans he has created)


So now he's a "professional" hahaha. This sport is a joke.
Yeah you don't have to be professional to get a sport banned... but making a video of yourself hitting a house and looking like a D bag deffiently isn't going to help.

loverboy
WA, 614 posts
21 Aug 2009 11:28AM
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Cool stunt....funny as when he hits....

I think a few people on this forum take themselves a little too seriously. Chill out and take the footage on face value... fun to watch !

GalahOnTheBay
NSW, 4188 posts
21 Aug 2009 1:29PM
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sir ROWDY said...So now he's a "professional" hahaha. This sport is a joke.
Yeah you don't have to be professional to get a sport banned... but making a video of yourself hitting a house and looking like a D bag defiantly isn't going to help.


Amen to that.

Face value for that vid can only ever be (as rowdy said) some clown being a d bag.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Aug 2009 11:58AM
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Saff if you believe he didn't want that released then you must be a Scientologist mate..


Not an issue of releasing the vid so much as stoopidity pulling the stunt with or without a camera present.


No need to get personal either Saff, you kn *$#^* *$@*&*!!! (joking here -so r e l a x )


Now remember I actually own a couple of this tool's kites so am not trying to gain leverage for my brand etc etc. Still, having tried to extract a simple pdf for the excellent eclipse kites (on multiple occasions - with no response whatso-ever) it is clear to me that he and who-ever manages the company, wear velcro shoes and dribble a fair bit.

BTW I have had no probs with the kites - just wanted a user's manual that any other company would ship with the kite.

surfingboye
NSW, 2707 posts
21 Aug 2009 2:07PM
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h20fly said...

never seen this video thanks for posting it... but yeh why say he dies at the end?? and you laugh at his pain??

poor guy that would have really frikn hurt but full credit for giving it a go. and how sick did the first one look. Agree with give cred where cred due i like guys that push the limit


sorry, did i confuse your little head. i wasnt being literal when i said he died, and yes, i do laugh at his pain. no style to that boost at all.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Aug 2009 2:07PM
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sir ROWDY said...
So now he's a "professional" hahaha. This sport is a joke.
Yeah you don't have to be professional to get a sport banned... but making a video of yourself hitting a house and looking like a D bag deffiently isn't going to help.


He was sponsored by Airush prior to starting his own company so yes, he was a sponsored professional rider. As for the video, he successfully did it before he hit the house. The video would have looked pretty kewl if he didn't hit the house on one of the attempts and would probably have resulted in a whole lot of "fark, thats sick, man!" type of responses much like some of the other ones have done. Plenty of people have jumped islands, roads etc so its not like its a massive difference. As for the conduct of kiteboarding professionals, this is least of our concerns...I've seen so called professionals trashing hire cars in videos and lighting fires in their hotel rooms.

I do however fail to see how this is more likely to result in a ban when the house in question was owned/hired by them for a video shoot, or how it is more likely to get a ban that say someone, falling and breaking their neck on a slider. As for wakeboarding boats, the government has and will impose bans on any sport that imposes risks on the public, wakeboarding boats included. Don't fool yourself. What I will say is that this activity is probably 10 times less likely to create a ban than some of the people I've seen riding leashless or crashing their kites on the beach near people because they're trying to do their mobe's 10m from shore to show off.

On the issue of the railey from parks, sorry, it wasn't parks, it was shaun murray who did over the side of a tree with a railey to blind, I thought it was on a double up because he got a lot of height. Yes I do know what a double up is, and if you look at the video, its a tree in the middle of the water so a double up would be possible in this case.

getfunky said...

Saff if you believe he didn't want that released then you must be a Scientologist mate..


The video was released nearly a year after it was taken, if he really wanted it released I'm pretty sure it would have come out immediately. The video was filmed by Kiteflix.com and not released at the time but from what I understand it was released a year later to a TV program without consulting with him. I saw the entire discussion when it came out more than a year back. Dimitri was came out and talk about the issue and what happened. You can find the original video under http://www.kiteflix.com/ in the topic entitled kiteboarder vs house or dimitri.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Aug 2009 12:29PM
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Hey if I got filmed smearing cr@p all over my face - I'd probably try to deny i meant it to be released too.

If it's his image being use illegally for profit then I reckon if he wanted it gone - it would be.


Me thinks not Saff.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Aug 2009 2:51PM
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getfunky said...

Hey if I got filmed smearing cr@p all over my face - I'd probably try to deny i meant it to be released too.

If it's his image being use illegally for profit then I reckon if he wanted it gone - it would be.


Me thinks not Saff.



Jason Slez from LF gap jumped an island for a stunt, I don't see people bitching about that.



A stunt is a stunt...it's people pushing the limits of a normal sport at risk to themselves. Its someone doing something in a sport that other people would not be prepared to do for fear of huring themselves. Yes, some stunts are insanely stupid, but thats what makes them stunts and not the actual sport. Almost every stunt is performed by a professional in that particular sport, because it takes a professional to do that. Professionals skateboard on the mega ramp in the X games and break bones. Some pro motorcross guys I know have broken so many bones they lost count. Base jumpers do insanely dangerous things, some skimming rock faces in wing suits or jumping from incredibly low heights.

Nobody is advocating the average person go out and do things like this...it's a stunt. Do people decide to practice jumping 25 cars every time they see a stunt driver do it in a bus? I doubt it and those that do, would probably have found an incentive to do it anyway.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Aug 2009 1:03PM
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Sigh..



jackgearo
NSW, 331 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:02PM
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can anyone tell me how u are suppost to do a double up over a tree?

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:09PM
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jackgearo said...

can anyone tell me how u are suppost to do a double up over a tree?


the boat passes on one side of the tree and then it returns on the other.....hopefully the wakes will " double up " just before the tree and the wake boarder can do his squiggly thing over the top with the increased jump height caused by the combined wakes hitting each other and the boarder hitting them all at the right time.

N1CK
WA, 45 posts
21 Aug 2009 3:21PM
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sir ROWDY said...Are you for real?.... You think that is "pushing the sport", and you think he is something like Carey Hart? hjahahahaha.
This dude is a joke, any Idiot can do a boost... Except most Idiots don't want to get the sport banned, so they dont boost over houses and hard Objects. Most people are smart enough not to do it.
p.s.
Doing a boost takes little to no skill.


Dude, Dimitri Maramenides is one of the most skilled riders on this planet and one of the guys who did push this sport forwards and made it what it is today, a pioneer, even though I agree that this stunt might not have been the smartest thing to do but he is still a pioneer with all the tricks and stuff he brought to this sport. I don´t think you would be here on this forum unless guys like him did what they did.
Me? I would show some respect and learn some kite history.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:07PM
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Dude, Dimitri Maramenides is one of the most skilled riders on this planet and one of the guys who did push this sport forwards and made it what it is today, a pioneer, even though I agree that this stunt might not have been the smartest thing to do but he is still a pioneer with all the tricks and stuff he brought to this sport. I don´t think you would be here on this forum unless guys like him did what they did.
Me? I would show some respect and learn some kite history.



One day he will be one of the most skilled, ex-kiter, paraplegics on the planet if he keeps pullin the shee-ite.



Get with today and try dealing with his company - then comment about the great man. I should say I have had no beef with his kites or his company other than it is unprofessionally run and clearly that is how he rolls..


As for me.. I saw Ian Young (in Perf) go past on a surfboard and probably flying a 2 line (gawdknows what) at Leighton circa 99'. Lying there on my surfbaord waiting for a 1 foot wave to come along, I was immediatly hooked. Now that guy deserves respect - and gets it. He has pushed safety from day one - not "Look at moi everybody!!"


Dimitri 1st came to my attention about 14mths ago with the vid posted above.

Think for a moment how many non-kiters saw him for the 1st time in that vid too.

Dimitri, still a great man or once was a pioneer - now in the Alex Sans school for tools?

N1CK
WA, 45 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:12PM
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I would never try dealing with his company because I don´t like his kites at all, I think they are crap. But I still think he is a great kiter and even though he messed up this stunt.. It´s like watching a car stunt, u know there is a large risc factor yet u still look at it.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Aug 2009 6:20PM
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getfunky said...

Dude, Dimitri Maramenides is one of the most skilled riders on this planet and one of the guys who did push this sport forwards and made it what it is today, a pioneer, even though I agree that this stunt might not have been the smartest thing to do but he is still a pioneer with all the tricks and stuff he brought to this sport. I don´t think you would be here on this forum unless guys like him did what they did.
Me? I would show some respect and learn some kite history.



One day he will be one of the most skilled, ex-kiter, paraplegics on the planet if he keeps pullin the shee-ite.



Get with today and try dealing with his company - then comment about the great man. I should say I have had no beef with his kites or his company other than it is unprofessionally run and clearly that is how he rolls..


As for me.. I saw Ian Young (in Perf) go past on a surfboard and probably flying a 2 line (gawdknows what) at Leighton circa 99'. Lying there on my surfbaord waiting for a 1 foot wave to come along, I was immediatly hooked. Now that guy deserves respect - and gets it. He has pushed safety from day one - not "Look at moi everybody!!"


Dimitri 1st came to my attention about 14mths ago with the vid posted above.

Think for a moment how many non-kiters saw him for the 1st time in that vid too.

Dimitri, still a great man or once was a pioneer - now in the Alex Sans school for tools?


Wow, so because the first time you saw him happened to be when he tried to jump a house more than a year ago whilst filming a stunt for an advert, he's a bad guy?

And what you're also saying is all stunts for all sports should be banned just in case they go wrong or give a bad impression of the sport when they actually go wrong, because of course, stunts should never go wrong in real life?

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:25PM
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Blownaway said...

so who decides then whats stupid an whats not ?

Was ShannonBest when he jumped off some jetty an upset the locals(ok yes that was)



thats pretty much the binary opposite of what happend here atleast shannon knew where the water was lololololol

Dimitri deserves a space in the halls of fail. fail fail fail fail.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
21 Aug 2009 4:44PM
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And what you're also saying is all stunts for all sports should be banned just in case they go wrong or give a bad impression of the sport when they actually go wrong, because of course, stunts should never go wrong in real life?




Care to show me where a I said ANY of that Saff?

I said he is a tool and unprofessional. My attempted dealings with his company/managers and the vid are my experiance. You ever dealt with him or the company? Nup? Thought so..


BTW, I would never dare use the 'B' word on this forum - I aint flame proof!

No more halucigens for you today Saff - you are seein fings..



ONCE AGAIN I RIDE ECLIPSE KITES AND THEY ARE GREAT. (truly)


Could I be any clearer??


sir ROWDY
WA, 5377 posts
21 Aug 2009 6:54PM
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N1CK said...

sir ROWDY said...Are you for real?.... You think that is "pushing the sport", and you think he is something like Carey Hart? hjahahahaha.
This dude is a joke, any Idiot can do a boost... Except most Idiots don't want to get the sport banned, so they dont boost over houses and hard Objects. Most people are smart enough not to do it.
p.s.
Doing a boost takes little to no skill.


Dude, Dimitri Maramenides is one of the most skilled riders on this planet and one of the guys who did push this sport forwards and made it what it is today, a pioneer, even though I agree that this stunt might not have been the smartest thing to do but he is still a pioneer with all the tricks and stuff he brought to this sport.


One of the most skilled riders on the planet ay...... BWAHAHAHA.
Pushed it fowards? what are you on about? this dude is the biggest dangler in the history of dangling, from what ive seen.
What tricks has he brought to the sport? am I confused as to who this guy is? does someone wanna fill me in? the only person ive seen who is a true pinoneer and has brought his own tricks to the sport that he has actually invented himself previous o kiting is Shannon best... Even Lou didnt invent anything new.

N1CK said...

I don´t think you would be here on this forum unless guys like him did what they did.
Me? I would show some respect and learn some kite history.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHA, man you got me in stiches here dude.
You wanna inform me why i wouldn't be here unless dudes that dangled like no tommorow and ran into houses didn't kite?

I've been around kiting since the beginning and just at a guess I'm gonna say that I know alot more about the history of the sport in Australia and abroad than most other people.
And in my books this dude has earn't zero respect from me.

hoop
1979 posts
21 Aug 2009 7:33PM
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It would have been way funnier if it was surfingboye getting slammed into the side of a house.
The thing is, he'd need to go kiting for that to happen. That could never happen to a full time forum troll.

N1CK
WA, 45 posts
21 Aug 2009 7:39PM
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Dude, Shannon Best wasn´t the only dude in the beginning of the millenium who was pushing the sport. And for Wainman not being inventive? hehehe

sir ROWDY
WA, 5377 posts
21 Aug 2009 7:52PM
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You said he was a "pioneer" and "brought stuff to the sport"..... what?..... I don't remeber him being around in the early days and influencing anyone, or pushing the sport. Where did you get this idea anyway?

Lou was talented but not inventive, he started and lead the whole cross over between wake and kite style tricks. He didn't invent the tricks however.

Shannon Best is actually the reason people do "load and pop" (wakestyle) style tricks, before he could kite he saw the sport had potential and told Lou and the maui crew that instead of sending their kites back in time like a fairy to do tricks they could actually leave the kite in the one spot and load against it...... thus "air" tricks were born.
Not only that but Shannon Best actually invented a few tricks himself in the early days of wakeboarding, one of those tricks being the "S-Bend" (shannon bend).... He later brought that and a number of other tricks to the kite. (also one of the few people to ever do a legit pete rose behind a kite)

njamo
WA, 28 posts
21 Aug 2009 9:05PM
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Message at the start of this vid states to wear a helmet and impact vest but dmitri wears neither. You'd expect anyone(even a PROFESSIONAL!) with a brain to protect to at least put on a helmet when trying a stunt like this

westhammer
WA, 506 posts
21 Aug 2009 9:06PM
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Bob Marley a man with vision will sort this out

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
21 Aug 2009 10:56PM
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I strongly object to Dimitri Marmalade being referred to as a professional rider. I bring to the podium 2 pieces of evidence.

Item A- 2007.airush.com/download/07_catalogue/37_38_t3.html

Item B- 2007.airush.com/download/07_catalogue/33_34_x_pact.html

Spot what is wrong in each picture.

I hereby move to prosecute Dimitri Marmalade on 2 counts of commiting "posing".

sir ROWDY
WA, 5377 posts
21 Aug 2009 9:38PM
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Ohhhhh now i see, thanks for the visual Spacemonkey.
It was hard for me to work out just how he was pioneering and pushing the sport, now thanks to that it's clear as day............



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