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Kite repair - Moti's the Man...

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Created by Sir V > 9 months ago, 13 Feb 2009
Sir V
QLD, 490 posts
13 Feb 2009 11:10AM
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Just thought I would share my impressions on where to go when you need a kite repaired. Background and result...

Note: This is not an attack on anyone personally, or any business - so names will not be mentioned. This is simply to state Moti Levi Kite repair knows what they are doing - www.kiterepair.com.au


3 weeks ago I stacked it and blew a whole in my leading edge near the centre strut. Both the blader and leading edge needed fixing. I thought I would send it to Moti Levi as I had heard good reports on their work.

As I am feeling sorry for myself on the beach packing my kite the local shop owner says to me: - no problem man, we'll fix it. Just pack it and give to me, I'll take it to the shop and I'll fix the bladder myself and get my kite guy to fix the leading edge, it will be 3-4 days. I though that was extremely nice of him since he was also kiting and had to take my kite home and next dayto the shop and he has always been extremely helpful before anyway.

4 days later I get a call, kite is fixed, I asked how much, was told 120.00 which I thought it was fair, so I went to pick it up. Got to the shop, paid, decided to have a look at the work. Well... I wasn't pleased. My kite had a pice of fabric on it that looked like patchwork. Their contractor hadn't bothered to match the Cabrinha fabric and simply put a dark patch on it that stuck out like a sore thumb. The bladder was obviously well repaired as he the shop owner had done it himslef and has been in the industry for a long time so he knows what he's doing - no complaints here. But I wasn't happy at all that my beautifull and expensive kite (to me it is expensive) looked like my mother's quilt.

Please see photos below... this story ended well, but its not over.






This got a little hairy because when I complained that I didn't like the quality of the repair. Instead of listening to me - let's remember who the customer is..- I was told simply that it was a good repair and that the fabric would have been too hard to match, Cabrinha doesn't use standard colour fabrics, etc. This went on a lot longer but we'll stop here. As advised, I sought the opinion of others since I was clearly not happy. So I sent a few photos to Moti (displayed above).

The reply came almost immediatly - no problem, I'll fix it man. There was no critique about someone else's work, simply a fix-it attitude. He told me exactly what would happen and how much to unstitch the center strut, how much to re-inforce the interior of the leading edge, how much to stitch the whole thing back together and what the patch would look like - 100.00, which I also thought it was fair.

Kite was back a few days later and you guys judge, but I am now happy. Let me say this again... this is not an attack to a shop, I am not interested in politics - simply a statement that when you want something done properly send it to someone that does that 'specifically' for a living.

Regards, V








loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
13 Feb 2009 12:24PM
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The first repair looked fine-looked like a well stitched well re-enforced piece of work-colour matching is merely aesthetics-form over function.

Well constructed post by the way-good job not unnecessarily bagging the 'shop'.

Kadkhah
WA, 381 posts
13 Feb 2009 10:42AM
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What I would do is to go to that local shop again (With a friendly attitude) show them the new repair and IFFFFF they are reasonable they can see the difference and they can improve their services for their next customers.

At the same time it was a very good thing that you showed your appreciation of a repair service and a business.
I'm sure that Moti did a good job and he deserves to be known in NSW.

As far as I can see you didn't attack any names unless I didn't get it (yes I am dumb).

Good Wind
Alex

COL
NSW, 554 posts
13 Feb 2009 1:21PM
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This is a tricky one, I think the local guy did his best to give you a quality & cheap repair. $120 for a bladder repair & an awkward leading edge repair sounds pretty damn good to me. Personally I wouldn't have minded the colour match, but everyone has different expectations. Just shows the difficulties of dealing with the public.
BTW I had a similar but worse failure to my kite last year, leading edge/centre strut. Sent it to Moty. Very pleased with repair. Only 6 day turn around. Black leading edge so no matching problem.
cheers
COL

whatthe
WA, 186 posts
13 Feb 2009 11:41AM
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Wow, I thought the first job looked pretty good, and thought "What is he complaining about?" I would have been happy with that result.

But seeing the comparison with the Moti job, now understand where you are coming from. Its a good advertisement for Moti, I'm sold.

sunseeker
QLD, 1203 posts
13 Feb 2009 1:19PM
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Do you see the way he also re-painted the word "sprint" too. I had a canopy repair by moti once that went right through the Cabrinha logo. He re-painted that part of the logo so that you could almost not pick it. Real attention to detail and good colour matching.

board9898
QLD, 21 posts
13 Feb 2009 1:52PM
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First repair looks like a very professional and strong repair, personally i would have had no problems with that one!

I guess its your choice to spend another $100 on colour matching.

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
13 Feb 2009 3:06PM
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I couldn't believe that someone would care. It just has to look strong IMO. I then delved deeper into this seemingly overstated case of unpleasant aesthetics. My findings revealed that the perpetrator of this thread quite possibly spends many hours in front of mirrors and may or may not be obsessed with looks. hahhaaha. I don't know him but he does claim a background in gymnastics and teaching 'Body Jam' and 'Body Pump' classes. hahaha. Sorry, but i just thought it worthy of mention. hahha

theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
13 Feb 2009 3:26PM
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this is not an attack on anyone personally, so no names will be mentioned...but,
the poster sounds like a sooky douche

kk
WA, 953 posts
13 Feb 2009 1:52PM
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Both repairs look fine to me?? I have had plenty done too!!

The latest one appears to have put the patch mostly inside rather than the outside and colour match is close but still not perfect..


Anyhow.... Don't crash your kite and it won't get hurt, I always reckon a few battle scars are good, shows your getting the most out of your gear

Sir V
QLD, 490 posts
13 Feb 2009 4:03PM
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I so knew this was coming.. how can you transform a compliment into someone's work into a personal attack eheh. It never ceases to amaze me how negativity always creeps into these posts.

For the negative:[}:)]
In terms of the repair.. obviously you are so used to put up with crap that you no longer recognise the difference from an ok job to a good one. Good luck to you.
Personally.. I couldn't give a damn about the derogatory. I know who I am and the last thing I need is your approval. And yes, it is my hard-earned money so I will choose who to praise and not. It is because of that attitude that we don't get better service from contractors. So keep the slagging to yourselves, and if you still not happy ehehe, you know where to stick it (laughing my head off here)

For the positive: there is always room for improvement - if it had been done right the first time I wouldn't have had to spend additional funds. And it was possible to have it done right as the proof is on sight. That was the intention of this post.

I am somewhat glad to not being the only one with pride in their gear. It doesn't have to look like crap to justify use

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
13 Feb 2009 5:25PM
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Seriously though. What was the hardest thing about learning to rollerblade?

stamp
QLD, 2791 posts
13 Feb 2009 5:20PM
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Smedg said...

Seriously though. What was the hardest thing about learning to rollerblade?



telling your parents that you're gay?

hookworm
VIC, 600 posts
13 Feb 2009 6:38PM
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stamp said...

Smedg said...

Seriously though. What was the hardest thing about learning to rollerblade?



telling your parents that you're gay?


being jelous of stamp when i saw him go backwards!

COL
NSW, 554 posts
13 Feb 2009 6:56PM
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I counted 2 negative replies out of 9. Chill out Sir V. It was a good subject to bring up & discuss.
cheers
COL

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
13 Feb 2009 7:23PM
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I would have been happy with the first patch job.
But everyones different,if you have the money to blow another $100 to make it look pretty,thats your choice,hey if your cashed up with money to spend I guess you can afford band aids with smilie faces on them

Moti did do a nice job though.impressive

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
13 Feb 2009 5:48PM
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Sir V said...






That repair job is an abortion. ^^^
lol.
But the word 'sprint' is back in full......
so that's the important thing, hey ?
Because the first repair had to be unpicked,
now you've got a million needle holes in the cloth.
That makes the kite weaker.
Loser.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
13 Feb 2009 8:18PM
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but it looks pretty

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
13 Feb 2009 10:13PM
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lotofwind said...

but it looks pretty


And so does Sir V-a match made in rollerblade heaven....

McSalty
VIC, 47 posts
14 Feb 2009 10:18AM
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Seems to me like the whole situation would have been avoided if the first repairer took 1 min to make a phone call to you let you know that he didn't have an exact match for the fabric and whether you would be happy using a slightly different colour.

Clearly by the responses to this post some people would have said that was fine, but at least then the it's the customer's call.

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
14 Feb 2009 10:49AM
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First repair looked perfect , just cause a 2" section on the inside of your leading edge didn't match the same colour ! You deserve to pay for it twice, you sook . I suppose you have to wear coulour coordinated undies when you kite ? This is a classic case of "Harden the F*** Up "

djdojo
VIC, 1614 posts
14 Feb 2009 12:56PM
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surely not htfu, i mean he's a body-pump instructor (whatever that is), so probably hard enough (on the outside at least).

perhaps, this is an occasion on which to soften the f*** up, in order to go with the flow...

Sir V
QLD, 490 posts
14 Feb 2009 12:41PM
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A final word of thanks..

Thanks to those who saw my point, just as McSalty explained.. and as a positive advice for future kite repairs

Thanks anyway to all others who offered 'advice'. We are all responsible for the standards we want in our lives, industry and sport.

HARD and WELL DONE can, and should go together whenever possible. This is one of such ocasions - it should have been done right the first time. Pity my kite was damaged in the process, but a lesson for the future - deal with professionals only.

I will keep the HTFU advice for the water - that's were we need it.

V

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
14 Feb 2009 2:25PM
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Sir V said...

A final word of thanks..

Thanks to those who saw my point, just as McSalty explained.. and as a positive advice for future kite repairs

Thanks anyway to all others who offered 'advice'. We are all responsible for the standards we want in our lives, industry and sport.

HARD and WELL DONE can, and should go together whenever possible. This is one of such ocasions - it should have been done right the first time. Pity my kite was damaged in the process, but a lesson for the future - deal with professionals only.

I will keep the HTFU advice for the water - that's were we need it.

V


I don't trust this guy-he doesn't devolve into vitriol in his posts-he seems too well adjusted.....

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
14 Feb 2009 5:35PM
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Smedg said...

Seriously though. What was the hardest thing about learning to rollerblade?


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

AHHHHH Smedg,funny stuff.classic mate
I just took a big swig of my beer as I read that and laughed so hard it came out my nose.Those bubbles sting the nasal passage
lmaotbcomn.....translation....laugh my ass off till beer comes out my nose

ps found out my laptop is beer proof

surfsky
NSW, 68 posts
14 Feb 2009 6:19PM
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that first job looked perfect....jeeeezzz some people are picky....at least ya kite was fixed quick and you didnt get stranded long without your kite

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
15 Feb 2009 9:05AM
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Sir V, seriously you do need to HTFU its just a kite, the colours dont have to match exactly like for your tutu that u prance around in during a body jam class. Check this out for quality repair and colour matching Indo style! Nice batik cloth, cheap price and still handles a working by a 6 foot set. What else do you want?


theDoctor
NSW, 5785 posts
15 Feb 2009 12:36PM
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marty72 said...






^^^^ that guy on the left looks like an indo version of dave chappelle

COL
NSW, 554 posts
15 Feb 2009 1:07PM
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Well, I think that's what's called a win -win situation. Sir V got his colour match, Moti & the local guy (pity his name wasn't mentioned after all), got loads of free advertising, everyone is entirely clear exactly what is expected in a kite repair. I just love a happy ending!
cheers
COL

Cut
VIC, 107 posts
15 Feb 2009 1:11PM
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COL said...


Well, I think that's what's called a win -win situation. Sir V got his colour match, Moti & the local guy (pity his name wasn't mentioned after all), got loads of free advertising, everyone is entirely clear exactly what is expected in a kite repair. I just love a happy ending!
cheers
COL


Hah very true that....

My missus exclaimed "my god..he needs to HTFU!" when she read this though and this is from a chick who colour matches her board to her kite.

KitingCasey
QLD, 242 posts
15 Feb 2009 1:39PM
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theDoctor said...

marty72 said...






^^^^ that guy on the left looks like an indo version of dave chappelle


Deffently hahahah its the asian brother of dave chappelle


As for topic i believe Moti Levy is brilliant ive had my kite repaired wit him and the job done on the kite was impeccable as for the colour differation on your kite it looks like your kites faded to f**k anyways so matchin it up would be hard.....but the most important thing is that its back and in full working order so whats the problem



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