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Kite instructor on the Gold Coast=Danger

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Created by marty72 > 9 months ago, 8 May 2009
rodsound2k
WA, 12 posts
12 May 2009 10:52AM
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Hey Marty, Thanks for being attentive to our needs and to the needs of the industry. I'm sure that you as a kitesurfer would have the foresight to know that if there is a lesson in progress that you wouldn't distract the instructor as that could have dire consequences. As far as the "kite coming down where you would have been standing", I am happy that you weren't in the way and again being a competent kite surfer, you wouldn't want to stand in the general vicinity of the lesson in progress. As you were the only person who complained, I would think that others who were there were paying more attention to their surroundings than you were. As far as our instructor "not being certified or a member of AKSA, your comment was and is misleading. Our Instructor is IKO certified, though we are not members of AKSA or SEQKA as of yet. I would expect a little more less "politic-ing" and a little more working together, as this sport needs. Why would you attack us in the forums instead of contacting myself or the shop directly if you had any concerns. Remember if you need to talk we are there for you.....

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
12 May 2009 1:16PM
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rodsound2k said...

Hey Marty, Thanks for being attentive to our needs and to the needs of the industry. I'm sure that you as a kitesurfer would have the foresight to know that if there is a lesson in progress that you wouldn't distract the instructor as that could have dire consequences. As far as the "kite coming down where you would have been standing", I am happy that you weren't in the way and again being a competent kite surfer, you wouldn't want to stand in the general vicinity of the lesson in progress. As you were the only person who complained, I would think that others who were there were paying more attention to their surroundings than you were. As far as our instructor "not being certified or a member of AKSA, your comment was and is misleading. Our Instructor is IKO certified, though we are not members of AKSA or SEQKA as of yet. I would expect a little more less "politic-ing" and a little more working together, as this sport needs. Why would you attack us in the forums instead of contacting myself or the shop directly if you had any concerns. Remember if you need to talk we are there for you.....


Marty probably got it the first time-be cool to delete the duplicate posts.

You makes some valid points-this is NOT one of them:

rodsound2k said...
As you were the only person who complained, I would think that others who were there were paying more attention to their surroundings than you were.


Marty's concern appears to be that someone LESS aware than he was and NOT a kiter may have wandered down wind to where the lines may have wrapped and may have caused significant injury and may have led to a ban where you were teaching and given more impetus and evidence for bans elsewhere.

This forum is a great agent for change - it airs issues that would otherwise remain out of the focus of we, the stakeholders.

Your activities have a great import than the small area where you were teaching and any ensuing accident may have repercussions for all us at our local.

You were lucky this time-sooner or later, your luck runs out.

Thanks for reading.....

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
12 May 2009 8:34PM
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rodsound2k, First of all I am just letting people in general know what's going on. As loco said "This forum is a great agent for change - it airs issues that would otherwise remain out of the focus of we, the stakeholders." Secondly regarding my comment being misleading, as I said in my original post I asked your instructor if he was certified and he told me that he wasn't. Surely IKO must teach you not to conduct commercial kitesurfing lessons on a busy beach! Also how do you know I was the only person that complained, isn't it better for me to let people know on a forum rather than ringing the council? Have a look at Kitepower Australia's comment "KK used to have an Ozone account 2 years ago, but it was withdrawn, they do not sell Ozone anymore, unless its 2 year old models. The primary reason it was withdrawn was lack of knowledge on how to safely sell and promote power kiting and kitesurfing. Other brands did the same thing." Surely there must have been some complaints for that to happen?

Paul1
QLD, 1011 posts
12 May 2009 9:44PM
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rodsound2k said...

Hey Marty, Thanks for being attentive to our needs and to the needs of the industry. I'm sure that you as a kitesurfer would have the foresight to know that if there is a lesson in progress that you wouldn't distract the instructor as that could have dire consequences. As far as the "kite coming down where you would have been standing", I am happy that you weren't in the way and again being a competent kite surfer, you wouldn't want to stand in the general vicinity of the lesson in progress. As you were the only person who complained, I would think that others who were there were paying more attention to their surroundings than you were. As far as our instructor "not being certified or a member of AKSA, your comment was and is misleading. Our Instructor is IKO certified, though we are not members of AKSA or SEQKA as of yet. I would expect a little more less "politic-ing" and a little more working together, as this sport needs. Why would you attack us in the forums instead of contacting myself or the shop directly if you had any concerns. Remember if you need to talk we are there for you.....



Mate, surely you must realise that running lessons at Mermaid Beach is just plain retarded. Running lessons there WILL get kiting banned along that stretch of coast, which will seriously piss off many kiters. Why can't you use your brains and get your instructors to teach where the other stores do, in less populated and much safer areas. Marty is clearly trying to stop kiting from being banned at Mermaid by advising your instructor that it is dumb to teach there, but surely you must know this seeing your shop is 2 mins from the spot? Please STOP running lessons at Mermaid, it just doesn't make any sense.

baldrick
QLD, 146 posts
12 May 2009 10:54PM
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Gold Coast foreshore, (less than) perfect for kite lessons one day.
Banned the next.

Smedg
NSW, 836 posts
12 May 2009 11:03PM
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Just wanted to put in a quick good word for Rod... Met him a few times and was impressed every time by his overwhelming kindness and have found him to be very genuine. (This was actually in knowing him outside of kite surfing and nothing to do with his shop)

However, I agree that appropriate times to teach at mermaid are few and far between. I'm hopeful that Rod will ensure that his instructors make wise decisions regarding safe teaching practices.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5366 posts
12 May 2009 10:32PM
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Rabble?

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
13 May 2009 11:07AM
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remo81 said...

Have many of you guys and girls read the windsurfing forums. I am only new to this sport, but there is not bagging out and carryon in the windsurf forums.

However it is a good laugh to read the kiting forums.


To be sure

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
13 May 2009 9:32AM
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baldrick said...




Paul 1 said;
"Marty is clearly trying to stop kiting from being banned at Mermaid by advising your instructor that it is dumb to teach there, but surely you must know this seeing your shop is 2 mins from the spot ?"

Well it all makes perfect sense to me now. ^^^
Why would Kamikaze Kites do lessons kilometres out of their way......
when they have a convenient kite-dragging beach at their disposal just 2 mins down the street ?
I guess career suicide is kamikaze's short-term business plan judging by the photo.
Or is it ?
If Mermaid gets a kite ban, Kamikaze will just zero-in on their next target.
They'll find another kite-flying beach for their newbies to dick around on.

Ioz
WA, 493 posts
13 May 2009 9:51AM
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That photo was taken on a quite day !

You should see the swimming areas mid holiday !

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
13 May 2009 12:10PM
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Ioz said...

That photo was taken on a quite day !

You should see the swimming areas mid holiday !


I should add; with the tide out and a wide beach that hasn't been eroded by a number of solid swells, right now the with a high tide the waves wash up almost to the sand dunes!

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
13 May 2009 10:15AM
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Maybe they see this as advertising as it's a busy beach and it sounds like they are the closest shop. They may feel that they will get greater exposure due to the high numbers of people using the busy beach.....

Unfortunately, it will all end in tears eventually and possibly not just for them.

C'mon, it's up to everyone to do thier bit to promote our great sport in a RESPONSIBLE way.

D

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
13 May 2009 12:08PM
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Well I see the off-season nastys have set in already. [}:)]

Teaching on crowded beaches is stoopid and inviting trouble for all concerned - simple as that. Doing it when the conditions are cr@p and control of the kite is suss is sooper stoopid.





Right - I am hiding until the sweet breezes are back and everyone is back to the over-kited, exuasted, love thy kiter vibes again.



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